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Lightroom 4

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  • Started 1 year ago by tcole1983
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  1. elvishefer

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    Disclaimer: Haven't done this myself, tcole...

    "An alternative way is to make Lens Profile Corrections part of your default settings. To do so, go to an image in Develop, click "Reset" on it and apply all the value you want to be part of the default. Then press Alt and click the set "Set Default" button. You will have to repeat this step for all camera models you are working with."

    From a good thread to read here:

    http://forums.adobe.com/message/3900393

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  2. tcole1983

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    Ill check it out. I looked through the Adobe help file and I didn't see anything that looked like what I wanted. Thanks.

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  3. Gareth

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    anyone finding LR4 unusably slow?

    about to upgrade, but not if it is so slow I can't use it as many people are finding it.

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  4. msmoto

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    Must be my turn here somewhere... Lightroom 3 about six months ago and 4 as soon as available from B & H. I use it to get the D4 14-bit lossless compressed images. Maybe 1000 or so. I do everything manually. Was in Aperture... but Lightroom is like a dream world in its abilities. One of the nicest features is the ability to correct mixed source color temperatures with the "white balance" brush. It appears that making a silk purse out of a sow's ear is now possible in Lightroom 4! I have "saved" some pretty nasty images.

    One thing I have not done is to use any "lens corrections". I do these manually. Is there a magic button which really works and what does it do with the image. Or is this one of those point and shoot things, I just need to play with it, huh?

    Speed... I think it is fairly fast until I start doing extremely large corrections... huge color shifts. Then the file size is in the 20-40MB and the speed is not instant.

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  5. sevencrossing

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    may be a bit but I am using big files from a D800

    but as far as I can make out, there is nothing remotely as good
    Bridge plus CS6 would be even slower

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  6. sevencrossing

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    msmoto said:
    One thing I have not done is to use any "lens corrections". I do these manually. Is there a magic button which really works and what does it do with the image.

    In lens corrections click " profile"
    and tick the "enable profile corrections" box

    For most lenses it should work automatically

    Distortion, vignetting, all corrected like magic

    You can then save in your import profile

    I may have mentioned this before. Subscribe to Kelby Training and watch Matt Ks videos (no I am not on commission )

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  7. spraynpray

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    Gareth said:
    anyone finding LR4 unusably slow?

    about to upgrade, but not if it is so slow I can't use it as many people are finding it.

    I'm not finding it slow. My PC is only Dual Core 3Ghz 8Gb RAM and I use RAW files from my D7000.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  8. Gareth

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    I guess i'll try it. i'll probably be one of the unlucky ones who it doesn't work for. Everything seems to be running that way on my latest buiild.

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  9. spraynpray

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    I should have said it runs faster that 3.6 on the same machine.

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  10. TaoTeJared

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    Gareth said:
    anyone finding LR4 unusably slow?

    about to upgrade, but not if it is so slow I can't use it as many people are finding it.

    It is a bit sluggish on importing and initial rendering of previews for me and a few other things. I do not feel it is the program that is the issue though. My PC is old (5yrs+)- Intel Core2 Quad @2.33ghz, 6gb of ram - 64bit. She's still kicking, but not past this summer for sure.

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  11. Gabbb

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    TaoTeJared said:
    It is a bit sluggish on importing and initial rendering of previews for me and a few other things. I do not feel it is the program that is the issue though. My PC is old (5yrs+)- Intel Core2 Quad @2.33ghz, 6gb of ram - 64bit. She's still kicking, but not past this summer for sure.

    It is the program! It's not optimized well for multi-core systems and memory management fails too, it keeps killing my HDD like there is no tomorrow, I've heard ppl with 16 gigs of ram complaining. Buying an SSD does make a difference however, I can only recommend that, especially for big files.

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  12. TaoTeJared

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    Multi-core systems have been out for the entire life of Lightroom - it uses them but not like a video game. SSD would help by leaps as if you are shooting anything over a 12mp sensor the files are large in processing terms. If you have a 5400rpm HD and anything under an i3 processor, it will slow it down. I have read the optimum set-up (for pc) is an i7, SSD for the program & catalog, with 12-16gb of ram. Adobe has always designed their products to be used on the newest hardware out, not for older systems.

    It actually sounds like some versions of processors are not optimizing the procedures sent to them well from what I read. Intel announced some multi-thread handling code updates in the newest processors - started making everyone looking for what issue they fixed but never released.

    Maybe I have been using Photoshop for so many years I just don't care that much. I still remember when to apply changes it used to take 2 minutes to render the preview and another 5 to render the file. I could get through maybe 5-10 files a day - now, I get through 500.

    Having to buy a new computer this year has been making me look for tests where the bottle necks are for LR and CS6 - anyone seen one, please share.

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  13. ronadair

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    "where the bottle necks are for LR"

    The interface. I wish Adobe would release a Bridge/ACR combo for $149. I'd buy that in a heartbeat, but I wouldn't even pay $5 for Lightroom. The UX is less appetizing than a plate of sick. It takes 3x longer for Lightroom to do what Bridge/ACR can do, and it does it MUCH more poorly.

    Adobe sucks.

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  14. Gareth

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    Yes, I like lightroom, but many are saying that they have reverted back to 3.6 as even 4.1 is far too slow. they also say that cs6 raw 7 in bridge is like lightning.

    I don't like bridge for the times when I take thousands of (raw) photos, it's fine for a setup photoshoot, but not for that.

    I may be forced to look at capture one.

    Come on Adobe, sort this lightroom issue so I can get back to using it.

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  15. TaoTeJared

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    I've gone through and edited over 3000 photos in the last week for a couple of conferences I shot. I have noticed a slightly slower initial loading but nothing that I would remotely consider downgrading it for or to think it is particularly slow. I'm guessing I have a much older computer than many on here.

    My LR catalog is just under 1 gig. I do use a couple of catalogs, mainly one each year. Each of those are around 3 gig. I wonder if that makes a difference? PC vs Apple?

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  16. sevencrossing

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    I Started with LR2 then LR3 and very happy with LR4 (and CS5)

    A lot of people were not happy with the news a security issue with CS5 was not going to be fixed and Adobe trying to persuade customer to buy CS6

    Adobe now says it's now working on patches for Creative Suite 5.x versions of Photoshop, Illustrator and Flash.

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  17. ronadair

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    "A lot of people were not happy with the news a security issue with CS5 was not going to be fixed and Adobe trying to persuade customer to buy CS6"

    Adobe's support for "old" software is maddening, at best (more likely borderline criminal). They don't give a crap about the customer. Profits are their only motive, and they'll pay dearly for it over the next ten years. They are marked. Laugh now, but marvel in a few years as their market dominance begins to wane, then falter, then crumble.

    It has happened to all the greats that decided to put their profit-motive above the needs of the customer. To be clear, I am all for companies profiting. But profits (I mean the long-term, sustainable kind) are an EFFECT of great products and continual customer-focused development, rather than a CAUSE of anything else. Profits stem from great decisions, and are a lingering effect of those great decisions sometimes even long after the great decisions have ceased to be made.

    Once a larger majority of customers realize Adobe doesn't give two shakes about them, it's lights out for them. Boy, I can't wait.

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  18. SkintBrit

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    Well you'll never believe it, but I'm typing this on one of these! http://www8.hp.com/uk/en/products/desktops/product-detail.html?oid=5281259&jumpid=oc_r1002_uken_c-001_r0001&lang=en&cc=uk
    Just bought it home and got through the set up stages (the very first website I visit is NRF LOL). Wow, I've never used windows 7 before.....so much to re-learn. I'm just going through installing all my photography software, and noticed that it has installed the 64bit version of LR4 this time.....what are the major differences if any? As I've now got 3TB to play with, I'm finally looking forward to using the software "in anger", without fear of crippling my system.

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  19. sevencrossing

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    Congratulations . Are you now completly skint brit .. No differace with 64 but it allows you to use the exta RAM

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  20. SkintBrit

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    Yes, cleaned me out seven, thanks for your advice :-) Whilst installing my licence for Portrait Pro 9 Studio, it asked if I would like to upgrade to the studio 64 version, which is designed to run on 64bit windows. It's about £30 to upgrade, is it worth it?

    Posted 8 months ago #
  21. Gareth

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    lol, i read that and started bitching about spam bots, then realised it was a genuine post.

    I bought an orico enclosure off ebay, which takes 3TB drives and has usb3 and esata. the multiple drive ones support raid (which i didn't bother with). Great little enclosure. I HIGHLY recommend you get one and do an off site backup at least once a week.

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  22. SkintBrit

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    Thanks for the advice Gareth. I am currently storing my work on a LaCie 2big Quadra, so have a limited RAID set up already. Unfortunately I've only now realised, after getting the new PC home and connecting everything up, that I'm going to have to connect it via USB 2! I hadn't noticed that the new machine doesn't have any FireWire or eSata ports, and altough it does have several USB 3 connections, the LaCie doesn't support that. Doh!

    So it seems to me, my options are either connect via the USB 2 cable, or have to go to all the expense of buying a USB 3 compatible device? After blowing a not inconsiderable sum of money on the computer, I think I'll have to go for the first option.

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  23. Gareth

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    don't be stupid, just put an 3.5" esata/card reader in your machine

    google:

    3.5" eSATA SATA Internal Card Reader

    just make sure it connects via sata internally and not usb.

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  24. SkintBrit

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    Gareth said:
    just make sure it connects via sata internally and not usb.

    Nope, I don't think I understand?

    Which is faster, eSATA or USB 3?

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  25. SkintBrit

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    HELP! Now that I've successfully installed all my photography software on the new computer, I'm uninstalling them all from my laptop, as I'll not be using this for editing work any more. All of them have uninstalled correctly, except my copy of photoshop CS4. When I go into control panel/programs and features, and click on CS4 (after deactivating the software in the program help menu, as stated in the advise box that pops up) I get a box that asks me what components I wish to uninstall, when I select everything, and then click uninstall, a new box comes up that states its uninstalling, but nothing happens. I have restarted the PC and tried again, with the same result. Is there a tool on the adobe website for removing all traces of their software? I have found one called Adobe creative Suite cleaner tool, but it states "uninstall the desired version of Adobe creative Suite product prior to using the creative Suite cleaner tool. Doh! Anyone have any suggestions how to get this program off my system? Mike you must know if you watching, you're the forums resident Adobe expert :-)

    Posted 8 months ago #

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