my D90 needs replacement, i need to send it to nikon for built in flash bulb replacement. but i cant live with out my camera, i dont want to miss a thing. also the shutter button is too soft now and sometimes it wont activate the shutter. i am waiting for the d400 to come out, i am sure it will be a dx body, if it is and the price is right it will be my replacement body. i hope my d90 wont break until the d400 domes out and in my own hands. if it does i will have to settle with the d7000, it will do, though the features doesnt convince me to buy it right now.
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Posted 12 months ago #
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If the D 400 is around $ 2200. I would probably just get the D 700!
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ow... thats expensive. i may have to settle with the d7000 or the d600 if it is cheaper.
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Let's not forget...we are all throwing darts blindfolded on this thread. No one actually has any idea as to what it might be if and when the D400 comes to the announcement table.
Might be this summer??? The D300s is overdue a replacement and it seems logical to bring it along with the D4, like the D3 was the big sister of the D300.
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I dont mind If I have to wait so they get it right. My nikon v1 is at 3 firmware update and the D800 as problems to be solved. My D300 never got a firmware update and to me that's good. Like many people, I think Nikon is pushing us to FF so the choice I will have to make will be a D400 or a D600 but I hope they will think about us DX owners with a lot of lenses.
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I think the present FX push of Nikon is actually costing Nikon money. Despite my interest in the D800 Nikon I do not plan on buying one. Problem with both D400 and D600 is that they both are in the the rumors stage. So if I have projects that need Expeed 3 technology, etc. and I can actually spring for the D800, that is what I will do. On the other hand a D800 for me would be settling for a camera that is not exactly what I am looking for. My days of very large cameras are over. Once in awhile I take out my mint F5 and the big glass just to bring me back to what as a buyer I want. Is the average buyer going to go to a D800? No! Is the average serious enthusiast going to go to a D600? I think a lot of them will if it is priced right, made in a plant that can keep up production and keep costs down. I for one am VERY reluctant to buy a FX camera with stuff I don't want and need on the usual photo shoot. Half my lens are FX capable. Even my nice 12-24DX actually works OK on FX especially with the 24mm end. Even my old 20-35mm is great on FX. Still.....how mant buyers are there? Very few. Nikon needs development, production, and delivery (sales) in what would REALLY sell. I think that the D400 is the single most awaited camera Nikon at this point has FAILED to make.
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It is time to relight the fire under the D400 discussion. So, I am going to suggest, the D400 will have a 24MP sensor, will operate with the full 24 MP until hi ISO is needed, then pixel binning will be used to increase the ISO by a couple stops, with outstanding quality and low noise. At least 8-9 FPS. ISO of 6,400 expandable to about 25,000. And, about $2,000.00 USD. As to release date.... darn, if I only knew. Let us guess, around the end of June or early July. Delivery.....hopefully Nikon will understand that there will no doubt be a run on the D400 just like the D4 and D800.
Oh, of course they will include the 1080p video stuff which I do not even know how to use...
So, if the above is not a rumor, I cannot think of what might be... but some of the gossip on the internet sounds rather interesting and who knows?
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At that price, I would go for the D600, if that one is on the way and the rumor about the pricing holds true. I would guess the two will be very close in price, the D600 being about $200 more expensive than the D400 (if the D400 is coming out at all, that is.)
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I suppose it will be determined on how the D600 has been configured. If it is a prosumer model, like a D7000 then I would shy away. But if the configuration is like the D300s or D800, then it will be a winner. And if the ISO is hi enough....
The D400, if it does arrive, will be a pro DX body, similar to the D300s. And the convenience of having all of the cameras one uses with the controls and algorithms similar is important for an old dog like me.
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DaveO said:
If the D 400 is around $ 2200. I would probably just get the D 700!Its really 2 different bodies that serve 2 different purposes.
I have a D700, but would love a D400 for high res DX shots of aircraft and wildlife.
It really depends on the usage.
I doubt I would ever use a D400 for portraiture though.Posted 11 months ago # -
msmoto said:
It is time to relight the fire under the D400 discussion.No it's not.
Wait a few weeks ... THEN it will be.
msmoto said:
Delivery.....hopefully Nikon will understand that there will no doubt be a run on the D400 just like the D4 and D800.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ... Oh dear me. [FX: wipes tears away from his eyes] ... at the kind of price points that would be realistic, you'll be waiting until mid 2013 for delivery.
My favorite camera maker never seem to have enough product in the supply channel ready for launch, unless of course it's a $100 Coolpix P&S that nobody wants (unless you wear "hello kitty" backpacks and giggle in the streets of Tokyo)... :(
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Godless said:
At that price, I would go for the D600, if that one is on the way and the rumor about the pricing holds true. I would guess the two will be very close in price, the D600 being about $200 more expensive than the D400 (if the D400 is coming out at all, that is.)So ...As the strongest rumor is that the D600 is about $1,500 then the D400 will be at about $1,300 (give or take a little for rounding etc)?
Makes life interesting for the D7000 at $1,200 ...
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bjrichus said:
So ...As the strongest rumor is that the D600 is about $1,500 then the D400 will be at about $1,300 (give or take a little for rounding etc)?I think both of those prices contain more than a little wishful thinking. I could believe that we'll end up with two $1,800-$2,000 cameras, though. Some would head for the FX, but I'm personally looking for the pro-level DX.
I love my D7000 but a deeper buffer, a few more fps, and an even better AF would sure be nice. I agree with msmoto that it would probably be 24MP ... dammit. I really wish they'd just stick to 16-18MP. I might need a new graphics card and extra memory to process those bigger files.
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I would also swing more to a D300S replacement versus the rumoured D600. I have a nice collection of DX glass to pick from and I'm happy with it (10-24, 16-85, 70-300 and 35) so would like to spend more time with it before what seems to be an eventual and inevitable move to FX somewhere down the line though.
Come on Nikon - lets have a D400 out of you.
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I can not understand Nikon.
Nikon has already everything what I want.16 MB (D7000) – 24 (D3200) MB
Full HD video (D7000)
8 – 10 FPS (D300s +++)
Body (D300s)
ISO 6400 – 12800Come one Nikon don’t lat us wait any longer
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O.K. I'm sick of this! We all know what we want. Nikon, if you're listening please just a little bit of info, rumor, something. How about just the MP? Or maybe a leaked image? Something! Please Mr. Nikon gives us something!
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msmoto said:
It is time to relight the fire under the D400 discussion. So, I am going to suggest, the D400 will have a 24MP sensor, will operate with the full 24 MP until hi ISO is needed, then pixel binning will be used to increase the ISO by a couple stops, with outstanding quality and low noise. At least 8-9 FPS. ISO of 6,400 expandable to about 25,000. And, about $2,000.00 USD. As to release date.... darn, if I only knew. Let us guess, around the end of June or early July. Delivery.....hopefully Nikon will understand that there will no doubt be a run on the D400 just like the D4 and D800.Oh, of course they will include the 1080p video stuff which I do not even know how to use...
So, if the above is not a rumor, I cannot think of what might be... but some of the gossip on the internet sounds rather interesting and who knows?
Pixel binning and downsampling in computer has almost the same effect.
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So, as a computer idiot, me, am I to interpret that "Pixel binning and downsampling in computer has almost the same effect." means one can "down-sample" the image, and increase the ISO while reducing noise? And, thus have a sensor capable of 24MP resolution at lower ISO, and nearly the identical resolution at ISO above 12,800 and minimal noise. Sounds like a D400 to me, ha, ha, ha.
As I understand it, the MP issue for resolution is not nearly as critical as folks think. The old D2 used to produce great photos which were blown up to enormous sizes and no one complained.
Oh, :-) My opinion of this thread is that it exists to allow us who are living in the fantasy world of believing NIKON is going to eventually come through with a "Pro" DX body to continue to have hope. NIKON may have something entirely different in mind. Especially if the D600 can produce DX format images with High ISO, high FPS.
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"As far as I am concerned, Nikon may completely eliminate the high end DX line (D300s) and replace it with a lower end FX camera (D600)"
Read more on NikonRumors.com: http://nikonrumors.com/2012/06/05/nikon-d400-predictions-in-the-japanese-capa-magazine.aspx/#ixzz1wxkTQM4E
This has been my concern for awhile and now with the much rumored D600 and this statement on the Nikon Rumors blog I don't know what to think.
Anybody want to buy some DX lens ;-)
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andrewz said:
"As far as I am concerned, Nikon may completely eliminate the high end DX line (D300s) and replace it with a lower end FX camera (D600)"Read more on NikonRumors.com: http://nikonrumors.com/2012/06/05/nikon-d400-predictions-in-the-japanese-capa-magazine.aspx/#ixzz1wxkTQM4E
This has been my concern for awhile and now with the much rumored D600 and this statement on the Nikon Rumors blog I don't know what to think.
Anybody want to buy some DX lens ;-)
I wouldn't worry. There is no way Nikon would not release an appropriate replacement to the D300s... and that's specially true considering the specs of the D800 and the rumored specs of the D600. They may not call it D400 or they may even call it D7200 (or whatever) but I'm sure we'll have a semi-pro DX.
Posted 11 months ago # -
Build it and I shall buy...I have the money saved up now. Just need it to be released...announced...rumored...come on Nikon.
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Geez...saw the new posts and thought maybe some news.... but same old stuff....no news. The rumor from Japan... not too reliable apparently...
But, I will stick with my original idea of a 24mp which will be used as a binned 6 mp at very high ISO. And, i cannot imagine NKON discontinuing a replacement for the D300s. As we go toward the future, the sensor size is getting smaller. Remember the D800 shooting at the 40MP Hassys? Eventually the smaller DX sensor will be indistinguishable from the FX in any size we use except possibly a billboard.
So, let's just wait...mid June????
Posted 11 months ago # -
I don't have much experience with product offering from Nikon but just looking at the current new line up - they released the D4 - Flagship for most pro photographers, D800 for those needing the detail, they announced D3200 which is low end of the scale for those just wanting to enter the market and they released I think D5100 before that so those people have two to choose from, plus they have the D7000 for those who have a bit more money to spend and want a better camera, then they have the older cameras beings D300s and D700 which is probably not being produced any more in great numbers...but well priced but its features may be lacking ie video, etc.. They announced D600 rumour which is not really a replacement for D700 and really the D800 is not a replacement for D700 either...so they will have FX D600 for low end FX camera which is still great quality, D800 for those looking for detailed shots, plus D4 for highest end...for DX its 3200, D5100 and D7000...so we are waiting for replacement for D300s which we all hope will be a mini D4 at a price around $1800 to $2200...
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Sales wise would they release d600 and d400 together, not a smart choice as it would divide its customers as to which to get, depending on the costs and features people can go either way...unless they clearly distinguish the difference, difficult to do if similar price and that market where a lot of people are...those who have purchase a SLR before and now want to upgrade but not pay $3000 for their next upgrade. If they release the D600 first, I would imagine their would be a tonne of people saying yep great camera for the price and would like to get into FX...but if D400 came in at same time then people would have to choose...cause obviously it would have its own features which could stack up to D600...
I'm a D90 owner and love my camera but like many waiting for the next best thing at a reasonable price...having extra FPS, better shots at higher ISOs for low lighting, and a host of other things and ideally I like the reach of of DX cameras esp for sports photography but if d600 comes in with the rights specs and I can get better quality shots out of it...then maybe time to move to FX and just learn to crop images...Posted 11 months ago # -
msmoto said:
Geez...saw the new posts and thought maybe some news.... but same old stuff....no news. The rumor from Japan... not too reliable apparently...But, I will stick with my original idea of a 24mp which will be used as a binned 6 mp at very high ISO. And, i cannot imagine NKON discontinuing a replacement for the D300s. As we go toward the future, the sensor size is getting smaller. Remember the D800 shooting at the 40MP Hassys? Eventually the smaller DX sensor will be indistinguishable from the FX in any size we use except possibly a billboard.
So, let's just wait...mid June????
Your D300s replacement (arguably) is D7200/D7100. I might not say it's a full replacement, but almost. Looking at D7000, the D7200/D7100 would have slightly better AF, which is likely D3/D700/D300(s)'s AF. In terms of build quality, I think D7000 is already good enough for most. What's more, add some FPS then you got a mini D300s with a nice sensor.
*Oh, one thing, D7000 is just one stop from maximum efficiency, which means we won't see a sensor much better than D7000 no matter what. Back to the megapixel race.
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