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What software do you prefer?

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  1. clillja

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    After 10 years of Adobe Photoshop and almost as many with Bridge, I just can't seem to get the hang of Aperture or Lightroom. It's more of a trust thing - where are my files on the drive? How do I keep multiple databases (on different machines) synced? And when those databases get big enough things slow down... even with an 8 core Mac Pro... What happens when the database gets corrupted? Yeah, I know there are answers to all those but - it's a comfort thing...

    I'm an old man I guess... :>)

    Oh - and I meant to say that ACR is closer to NX(2) for NEF conversion than it used to be. Three years ago the reds were waaaayyy off. Closer now.... not perfect but acceptable to me.

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  2. PB PM

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    I'm an Aperture guy, since I'm not into heavy editing it works well for me.

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  3. jonnyapple

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    Those are valid concerns, clillja, but I'll tell you how I get around them in my workflow. I reckon I'm a lightroom user for life.

    I use DNG and after editing I write the edits metadata (specifically, LR adjustments) to the DNGs. I know you can work just on NEFs and write the metadata to sidecar files, but I'd personally rather have a single file, so I convert to DNG on import. This frees me from depending on the LR database integrity for my edit history (all I would lose are saved previews) while keeping it all non-destructive and gives me portability if I want to load older pictures to edit on my laptop: I just pop in the optical copy (burned after saving my DNGs with the adjustments) and viola! LR edits are all there.

    As to where the files are on disk, they're not moved after import. My normal scheme is to import pictures to a folder named "YYYY MM Monthname" and then my file naming scheme is YYYYMMDD HHMMSS so that files stay chronological even when sorted alphabetically. This is handy because I shoot two synchronized cameras at weddings and I've got chronological ordering of the whole event that's easy as sin. You do have to be careful about not moving files outside of LR, though, since they'll show up missing in the LR database.

    The metadata browser is slower with a huge library, but you can get around that by having multiple libraries—one per year or one per photo shoot or whatever.

    Rob, from my extensive experience with Aperture 3 (~1 hour), I'm pretty sure I'd be as happy with it as with LR. I don't own a Mac though, so it's a moot point with me. I should also mention that I like Bridge, too, but maybe it goes without saying.

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  4. Anaxagoras

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    If you're a Mac user you must give VERY serious consideration to Aperture. Having used it for a couple of years I simply couldn't imagine photographic life without it!

    I've used LightRoom too, and it pretty much matches Aperture in most respects. Choosing between the two comes down to personal preference, but for me, Aperture just edges ahead. The editing facilities are nowhere near as powerful as Photoshop, etc. but if you just want to fine tune your photos to get the best out of them (straighten, crop, tweak colours, remove blemishes, etc), then Aperture/LR are perfectly adequate.

    clillja,

    I store all my photos on an external Firewire drive and reference them from within Aperture. That way the originals remain entirely under my control and can be backed up etc the way I want. The database contains only metadata and editing information; and it's only a minor disaster if it gets corrupted.

    I use a <YYYY-MM description> folder name and keep the originals as-is. Aperture renames the versions as <YYYYMMDD HHMMSS>. This can be a problem because at 4fps you get four images with the same name!

    There is no doubt that things slow as libraries grow; but as Jonny points out above, if they're that big it's as well to split them.

    I think it's probably better to think of Aperture and LR primarily as powerful image management tools that include some (now quite good) editing features. Conversely, Photoshop is primarily an, extremely powerful, image editing tool.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  5. scoobysmak

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    Well I know this is an old thread but figured with the new CS5 released I will see if anything has changed.

    At this moment I only have Nikon View 6 and CS3. Except for reducing the size and some very minor editing I am not a wizzard with either program (CS3 I used to get a couple of F/stops back to some very dull photos with the brightness and contrast controls, that’s it). I normally shoot in jepg but figure this is not the best way to do things, so I am looking to switch to NEF I think this is Nikons RAW files. I like to keep my photos as original as possible but some things just need that special touch (like trash that blew its way into your great picture or some ones gang sign spray painted in the middle of your city photo).

    I have been looking at programs like DXO which seems to be pretty good at fixing minor imperfections with the equipment and not totally changing a picture like CS5 can. It seems that CS5 can fix lens and camera imperfections as well but not sure if it can do the job just as good as DXO (or maybe I read this feature wrong totally). I would just hate to get two programs when I only needed one, plus that is less time it will take to finish my projects.

    I want to make artwork for my home is my overall goal. Poster size is preferred but I know it will take time to get to that level (and probably some equipment upgrades over time). So I have a steep learning curve, what does everyone here use and why. I will say that I might not take as many photos as most do so CPU and processor requirements may not matter as much but how do you keep your folders straight as well (I only ask because as I get better I am sure I will take more pictures and this might change, learn how to get the most of my time the first time around). Do you let the program assign a new folder for the output or am I missing something? My time is pretty valuable and I am not much into post processing so anything that runs without my help is a bonus.

    I am not sure if I want to attempt freeware or not. I keep hearing of a program called Gimp but don’t know much about it (of course I don’t know much about CS3 either so it’s not that big of a deal I guess).

    As a last comment I normally use a windows machine (have 3 of them). I thought about getting a Mac but there are just some programs I use personally that Mac doesn’t offer so would prefer to stay with windows applications. I am open to hearing about Mac stuff but it would take a lot to make me switch.

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  6. clillja

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    I have my Mac CS5 disks in my hot little hands. I'll be installing it at home to test thoroughly before putting it on my work machine. I don't know, but I've heard that 32 bit plug-ins won't work in 64 bit mode. I'm just using Nik Viveza and Noise Ninja, but I really rely on them. Neither the Nik website nor the Picture Code (Noise Ninja) says anything expressly about supporting CS5 on a Mac as plug-in. We'll find out later tonight.

    I run a small shop, my volume is quite manageable using Bridge and PS, after a decade of doing stuff this way on both Mac and PC, it's hard to change old habits. Except for Video work, I like to use software that's available for both Mac and PC.

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  7. Bland

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    Have any of you been using any of the new Topaz software?

    I've been using them this year and have been impressed with their latest upgrades. I'll post a link to their site where you can try them out for free, if you would be interested.

    I've got all of them but here's the ones I use the most:
    Adjust4
    Denoise5
    Detail2

    Posted 2 years ago #
  8. shivaswrath

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    DxO->Nik (PS)

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  9. studio460

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    I currently own Aperture, but Lightroom looks so good, I'm switching. I like Aperture, but Lightroom seems to offer more capability out-of-the-box. Since changing over to OS X, I have to buy new licenses for my entire Adobe suite anyway. Looking forward to exploiting the impressive array of new features in Photoshop CS5. I shelved my PCs over a year ago and have been without Photoshop for the same amount of time. Finally, I'll be ordering both Lightroom and Adobe Creative Suite Design Premium (for page layout) today!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  10. ithurtswhenipee

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    Used to use ViewNX for editing and basic post processing. Then Lightroom for organization and producing flash galleries for my website. I tried CaptureNX and I liked the flexibility and quality of the results, but I found it very unintuitive to use. I could process my images with a ViewNX+Lightroom/PS CS4 workflow in half the time it took to clunk around in CaptureNX.

    Then I built a new desktop rig with 64 bit Vista. ViewNX doesn't like Vista 64. The consensus in all the support forums that I visited was that Nikon was aware of the problems, but just shrugged it's shoulders and said, "meh". Since I was already using Lightroom for organization and galleries, I decided to use light room for editing and basic processing and even blemish removal and creative treatments. In fact I rarely have to load up PS. I leave my processed NEF's as NEF on my RAID 5 NAS and convert to JPG for the web and prints. Lightroom almost does it all for me. I use TransferNX to pull from my camera and to create file names. The one thing I can't get Lightroom to do is remember the last file name that I imported and continue with the next increment. Otherwise I would have a pure Lightroom workflow.

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  11. studio460

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    ithurtswhenipee said:
    In fact I rarely have to load up PS . . . Lightroom almost does it all for me.

    That's what I've heard, and I'm looking forward to a new, more streamlined workflow. I've just been asked to do some page-layout for a new client, so I'll still need Photoshop, InDesign, and Illustrator, though.

    ithurtswhenipee said:
    I tried CaptureNX and I liked the flexibility and quality of the results, but I found it very unintuitive to use. I could process my images with a ViewNX+Lightroom/PS CS4 workflow in half the time it took to clunk around in CaptureNX.

    Also, I've been thinking . . . I've never even tried any of the Nikon software, but maybe when I upgrade to a faster, FX body, I may start shooting RAW as a matter of course. Does either the new Lightroom or Photoshop CS5 support Nikon RAW, natively?

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  12. ithurtswhenipee

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    studio460 said:
    That's what I've heard, and I'm looking forward to a new, more streamlined workflow. I've just been asked to do some page-layout for a new client, so I'll still need Photoshop, InDesign, and Illustrator, though.

    Also, I've been thinking . . . I've never even tried any of the Nikon software, but maybe when I upgrade to a faster, FX body, I may start shooting RAW as a matter of course. Does either the new Lightroom or Photoshop CS5 support Nikon RAW, natively?

    Photoshop CS4 with Camera Raw 5.7 and Lightroom 2.2 both support NEF natively.

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  13. Gareth

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    lightroom 3 is a great program. NEF is native, and ORF for that matter. buy a whibal card , shoot exclusively RAW and you will never look back! you will never worry about a couple of stops under or over exposure, wrong white balance, or slow workflow again.

    ken rockwell is a fool, don't listen to his "real raw" speel. it's jokes.

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  14. Mike Gunter

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    Hi all,

    Full disclosure - I teach CS5 Photoshop, Adobe Premiere Pro, Encore. So, I support the home team. ;-)

    Adobe Camera Raw is terrific in PS and in Lightroom3.

    I think NX2 is a very good option to work with RAW, too, but in post processing with layers, and taking photography to the next level, one would be hard pressed not to work with Photoshop and use some of the tools that are available.

    My best,

    Mike

    Posted 2 years ago #
  15. EKoo

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    How about CaptureOne? Does anybody have any experienced with it? I have been using CaptureOne, but I really like Nik plug-ins for Lightroom, so I'm considering switching.

    thanks.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  16. sevencrossing

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    I use LR3 for 90% of the time and convert to DNG, I use CS5 less than 10% of the time just to merge panos and when I need to remove background clutter with "content aware"

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  17. SparkCreative

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    Capture One Pro. If you're dealing with a LOT of raw files, nothing touches it.

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    SparkCreative said:
    Capture One Pro. If you're dealing with a LOT of raw files, nothing touches it.

    How is that? What does Capture one do differently than Aperture or Lightroom which makes it better for dealing with a LOT of raw files?

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  19. scoobysmak

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    Well I still only have used Nikon View for editing, if I even do that (mostly cropping pics). Does any of the software mentioned allow you to load it on more than one computer or are you limited to using it on one computer.

    For instance I would love to have it on my desktop and my laptop. I save everything to a NAS device anyway.

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  20. jonnyapple

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    I know both lightroom and photoshop have end user agreements that allow what you're talking about—installing to one desktop computer and one laptop—as long as only one copy is running at a time and you own both computers. I don't know about the others.

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  21. tcole1983

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    I had been using View and Corel Paint Shop Pro Photo X2, but I wasn't very happy with the Corel software. I just got lightroom and although I don't know all the tricks yet it is a ton better.

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  22. Bland

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    tcole1983 said:
    I had been using View and Corel Paint Shop Pro Photo X2, but I wasn't very happy with the Corel software. I just got lightroom and although I don't know all the tricks yet it is a ton better.

    Same here, I was using NX2, Nikon Picture Project, Topaz and PS Elements. I'm still learning everything in Lightroom but Lightroom is so much better than what I was using.

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  23. kyoshinikon

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    Corel Paint Shop Pro Photo X2 is archaic. It is like using photoshop 5 (not cs5)

    I use Photoshop Cs5, Corel Photopaint x-5, and Lightroom for different jobs... Seldom use NX2 or Gimp these days...

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  24. dormant

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    I'm a real cheapskate and use The Gimp for all my image manipulation (JPEG).

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  25. tcole1983

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    kyoshinikon said:
    Corel Paint Shop Pro Photo X2 is archaic. It is like using photoshop 5 (not cs5)

    I use Photoshop Cs5, Corel Photopaint x-5, and Lightroom for different jobs... Seldom use NX2 or Gimp these days...

    What is Corel Photopaint x-5? x3 maybe?

    And not everyone has $640 to spend on CS5...lightroom cost enough for me.

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