Hello
I am new to this site so sorry if I ask a question that has been asked already
I think D700 is an ideal camera for me. I wonder if there is a replacement coming that would justify waiting 2-3 months?
Like what happened with D3x for the D3
thanks
D700 replacement ?
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I want one of these as my next camera, too. A D800 with the D3x sensor. It should be coming, but I've heard nothing as far as timing is concerned.
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You probably wont see anything for at least 18 months. There was quite a bit of time between the D3 and the D3x. The D3x and D700 are still very new.
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thanks for this answer
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"You probably wont see anything for at least 18 months. There was quite a bit of time between the D3 and the D3x. The D3x and D700 are still very new. "
Don't think that has any thing to do with it. There are clues that the D3x was made at the same time as the d3 so technically the D700x can come out at any time.. Its the marketing dept that decides when. It May be announced on the 14th of April!
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I doubt that d700x will be announced on the April 14th, as it wouldn't make any logic for me. D3x is still considered new, and the time gap between launching D3 and D700 was couple months. So if we will see any d700x this year, it's more likely to be around September.
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So the D700x will be a smaller sized D3x? I was hoping for something completely new, or at least some kind of update of the excisting body. More MP but still the same ISO range, and 1080p video. Something to target the 5D mk II and not the high-end studio photographers. Wouldn't it be smarter of nikon to go with a kick ass press camera?
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I very much doubt we'll see a D700x before 2010. And there is no reason to think that the D3 and D3x were "made at the same time". This technology ages so quickly you'd have to be an idiot to deliberately hold back a product. (Pushing forward and bringing forward release dates is another matter.)
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Why do you want a D700x ? I don't get it...
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We could see something new before we thought. The 5D MarkII actually overkill the D700 in almost all categories. I saw a couple of people going from Nikon to Canon for getting the new 5D. I would be one of them If the video mode was easier to use.
I'm looking for Nikon to react actually, but not too long.
"Why a new D700"
- No 1080p videos
- Only 95% frame coverage
- Only 12mpx (With the new comers at up than 21mpx and more, professional need that much now to compete)
- The 5DII perform as better at all iso's. That with 21 mpxPosted 4 years ago # -
stephan, I agree that this technology is aging so quickly, however I think that we finally came to a moment, when the time gap between releasing new bodies will grow instead of shrink, and as I wrote before I doubt that nikon will release d700x before September as they need to sell as much of D3x as they can before they release any cheaper 24Mpx DSLR - the differences that make You buy D3 instead of D700 are much higher than the possible differences between d3x and future d700x (no 2 CF slots, lower fps - rather unlikely as d3x is slow already, are not big factors for a studio photographer anyway).
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"I very much doubt we'll see a D700x before 2010. And there is no reason to think that the D3 and D3x were "made at the same time". This technology ages so quickly you'd have to be an idiot to deliberately hold back a product. (Pushing forward and bringing forward release dates is another matter.)"
C,mon You cant be serious. Tell me what reason can there be technically to stop a D700x from being released tomorrow. Like I said before, its the market timing and position of the product in relation to the D3x and D700 that is holding back the product release.
However to address the OP question. (I don't consider the D700 as an upgrade to the D700) The D700 replacement probably wont be announced for at least a year or more....
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See my issue with the rumor mill on bringing in replacements for the D300/D700/D3 already is that previously Nikon was on a 2-3yr wait for a new camera. Then when people say you need 20MP to compete and the noise is better than the D700 I laugh. The 5DMKII is not weather sealed, it AF is tired and slow, the IQ is good but it's LOW-ISO ability is bested by the D700 by a large margin, it also has very few new features besides more MPs. The D700 will be able to compete with it's competitors through this year at least and maybe next summer we should see something in a 16-20MP sensor for that series of camera. And I've yet to see the difference in a 2' X 3' print between the D700 and 5DMKII... so the megapixels aren't really that big a deal unless you need to crop, then I say get a longer lens or shoot tighter on the subject.
So to the OP, don't worry about a replacement, the D700 won't stop taking brilliant photos just because a new camera is put on the shelf. It's up to YOU the photographer to take great photos and the camera is only our tool.
-Chris
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The launch of the D700 was the beginning of the end for the D3. It is essentially the same camera in a smaller body and lower price point. When you add the MB-D10 you basically mitigate the speed advantage of the D3.
In my opinion Nikon is positioning the D700 as the solution for low light / high speed photography. The New D3X sacrifices some of the speed and ISO performance for image quality.... placing it head to head with the Canon 1D Mk III and it's successor. With the Canon 5D Mk II the company clearly indicated that it has not developed the technology to combine maximum image quality with optimal high speed / low light performance. Canon's Game is image quality as measured in mega pixels. Nikon cannot afford to ignore this must stay in the game.
My prediction:
The D3 discontinued by the third quarter.
With the D700 being marketed to the available light and sports photographers.
D3X going pixel to pixel with the 1D Mk IVIf there is a replacement for the D700 it will likely be the same camera renamed the D3s. (with the s for speed)
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I don't see the D700x as a replacement for any camera, including the D700. I believe Nikon has created a "kit of parts" design, which allows them to drop different electronics into different bodies. Example:
-Large Pro body, with FX12 Sports Sensor (D3)
-Large Pro body, with FX24 fine art sensor (D3x)
-Small Pro Body, with FX12 Sports Sensor (D700)
-Small Pro Body, with DX12 sensor (D300)Missing from the lineup:
-Large Pro Body, with DX sensor (D2xs Replacement)
-Small Pro Body, with fine art Sensor (D700x ???)Now, we could certainly make a point that there might be a very limited market for a large pro body DX camera. But I think there is clear demand for a small pro body with a FX24 sensor. But it wouldn't surprise me if Nikon produced a new DX sensor, then rolls them out with large and small pro bodies.
I'm pretty darn happy with my D700, but plan to buy a D700x when it appears. I just hope it appears sooner than later.
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I don't think Nikon will remove D700 from their list.
This is because D700 still not yet face challenge from Canon or Sony.
D700 still the best FX camera on it range.
DO you think nikon will release a replacement just because of:
- No 1080p videos
- Only 95% frame coverage
- Only 12mpx (With the new comers at up than 21mpx and more, professional need that much now to compete)
- The 5DII perform as better at all iso's. That with 21 mpx
D700 had a most superior mechanical design compare to Canon & Sony.
I can say is about 2 or 3 years in front of Canon & Sony.I prediction D700 will find it replacement at least 1 year more.
On the April 16, D40 D60 & D300 will be replacement. There are the one needed to upgrade well.1 more thing, I don't agree will some of the ppl. Actually D3x no a replacement for D3.
D3 is the best FX camera in the world with the best mechanical design fixture compare to D3x.
What make D3x so special................just the pixel.........Even Nikon never say D3x is a replacement for D3..
Don't make own statement..................HahaPosted 4 years ago # -
if there were D700x that uses D3X sensor, it would have to priced around five to six grand USD.
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The body of the D700 seems to be designed for two card slots, while the current D700 has only one. (google it, to check by yourself)
So the D700x could have been previously somewhat designed along with the D700
The only question is if the D700x is going to be a D700 with a D3x sensor (or maybe a ~18MP sensor) or if it will also include video recording capability.
If it uses the D3x's sensor I think video is not likely to be included.
If it has a different sensor (but higher than 12MP, obviously) then there is a chance it could include Movie recording.In both cases, considering the D700 was announced un july 2008, I don't think it will be announced so soon. Although D3x was announced around 1 year after D3, so there is a chance to see a D700x around 1 year after D700.
It will depend on the kind of camera it is, the market status and the strategy of Nikon.5D Mark II outperforms (or at least equals) in almost every aspect to D700, except AF, burst rate and build quality.
So it's clear that there is a hole where Nikon does not havy any option to customers: High resolution sensor at affordable price, with even Full HD Video recording.
BTW the video feature is easy to use in the 5D Mark II, the only problem so far is that Canon didn't allow manual settings in video mode, so far. That limits a lot the professional use of the camera for videography, although there are lot of people using and tricking it to get professional results.
There are lot of Canon users requesting for a firmware update to allo "full manual control" in video mode. One simple example:
http://www.petitiononline.com/5dmark2/petition.html
I suppose Nikon will do something about that and release a DSLR with Full HD capability and at least some kind of Manual control. And, if they include faster contrast detection AF than the 5D Mark II for video mode then they could change the scenario.
But I guess they will firstly release a DX format camera, and then later a FX camera (D400, then... D800)
Maybe there won't be a D700x but a D800 with higher res (~18MP for instance) and Full HD Video. If that is going to happend, we should see some indications beforePosted 4 years ago # -
The bad thing about 5DII videos is there's no autofocus. Add this feature on a D700x-D800 and it's a huge advantage taken away from the 5DII
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@Vonkara:
The 5D MK II has AF while recording video (Contrast detection AF), but people say it is slow and "hunts" often, so pretty unusable.
However, is good to mention that even normal AF (contrast detection or phase detection) must be implemented in a more complex way than for stills, to make it usable for video.
I always suggested "at least" a "Focus Assistant System", that is completelly possible to implement today. It works like this: You select an area of the frame, and the camera tells you if it is in focus.
It's especially useful when you are recording Full HD viewing in a "small" 3" LCD screen.
If you implement it in a further step, the camera could also "track" that area and tell if it is still in focus for a period of time.
Filming is very different than taking photographs, you need different techniques and lot of more gear to make an acceptable footage or clip (stabilization system, dolly system, lighting systems, focus tracking or pulling, audio recording system, etc) and after that the post processing and editing tasks...
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You got it right Pablov... Also It would be great to be able to select one of the 51 focus area on the LCD. A 3.5 inches LCD would help, almost like it is on the ipod touch. Then only by selecting the single or continious autofocus, the camera would focus only when you half press the shutter button or continiously focus on the selected area.
OMG does I am dreaming here??
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I also would like a 3.5", and told about that (thinking on video recording) but somebody didn't see any benefit of it...
Well, there are people of all kind in this world.
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Great commemts. Im the perfect example of why Nikon should release a HD Video option in the 700. Im about to buy the 5d2, but would rather have a Nikon. Even though I have never had a high end still camera, I went to film school in NY and love the low light and lense options of these cameras and I get to take some great stills too! I hate the look of Video...even in high end units...but the 5D2 looks as good as it gets without spending 35,000. I hope it has a 24 as well as 30 option as mentioned above...the auto fucus being better is a plus, but for me, only in the still shots because I was trained and only like the look of manual focus in film making/sorry moving pictures.
Nikon has a chance to improve on what people dont like about the 5d2 and I hope they do it very soon if they can. Very soon.Posted 4 years ago # -
I totally agree that the d700x this year is a very real possibility, probably near december just like the d3x. it won't be 3K though.
I see the d700 existing happily alongside a d700x. Video itself won't sway a lot of people because it still years away from being anything other than full-auto novelty. The 5DII video suffers from horrible rolling shutter (inherited cmos sensor problem) easily seen unless tripod held, and lacks any sort of manual control beyond basics, lacks 24fps mode, the contras AF hunts and ruins the video so may as well be manual, and offers limited continuous recording (limited by size). Versatile DSLR video will matter someday...just not today, unless you like the novelty aspect of it. In every other respect, the D700 trumps the canon easily even though it is a year older, except sheer resolution for the limited audience that actually needs to print at these sizes (and yes they'll pick it for that very reason).
So nikon strategy works pretty good IMO: their older camera has superior AF, faster fps, better built and features, and it is cheaper!. If the canon had actually given their camera a new AF system, pro-body, and blazing speed, nikon would be in trouble. yet, canon fell short even thought they came out a year later. I find it funny some people go like "the d700 ONLY has better AF, build, shooting features, and FPS!". those are pretty significant things last I checked!...for a picture camera (primary purpose) unless you just want to take videos of little jonny that is :) Or print wall posters.
Surely a d700x would make sense though: just a sensor swap + silly video mode, just because everybody is doing it now. And there you go, easy answer to close the small difference the D700 and 5DII and easily put it over the top for nearly zero R&D cost. There is still plenty of differentiaton with the D3X feature-wise.
Nikon's proper answer to the 5DMII won't be a D700x, it will be a D800 which is actually a new body with PICTURE camera features to easily outclass even the D700 (not just auto-video + MP). That's probably not coming until 2010, but a D700x is prett much a marketing decision at this point rather than a technical one. they could do it anytime.
-"This technology ages so quickly you'd have to be an idiot to deliberately hold back a product."
they probably had it in development, that's not holding back. Just like the D4 is surely being worked on today to go against whatever the 1D canon line does next year. IMO The d3x was simply a very clever move to neutralize the 1dsMIII while they work on the d4.If you really want HD video, save the money and get the new rebel. way cheaper than the 5DII and it is not going to be a world of difference. Surely the D400 will have video too, and the D5000...so spending a lot of cash just to get silly-auto-only video is rather wasteful.
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The more I read this post the more I feel stupid about wanting the 5d2 or the 700x to come out. Am I wrong...dont these videos look more film-like than any high end hd video out there save the 30 to 70k ones? You say these cameras are silly, if the look is better because ofthe lenses used or the sensor size, isnt it just better? Fortunatly, I can get what I want but dont want to be dumb about it. I could just by a d90 or a d700, and then get a good video camera too. Please tell me what Im missing...with all of their issues these still camera/hd cameras just look more like film to me and thats THE most important thing to me.
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