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superpong

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kenadams said:
check out the high ISO samples link on the blog: http://www.ferra.ru/ru/digiphoto/review/Nikon-D800-preview/print/

I don't like the cafe table one at 25,600, but the rest of them look pretty decent to me... that ballrooom chandelier at 6400 would look like a screaming washed out turd without any detail at 1200 on my D80... anyone with serious ISO capacity wanting to chime in?

I downloaded those samples and compared with mine from my own D700. I think the noise control of D700 is better.

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shivaswrath

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Cliff mautner posted high-res pics with the D800-noted that it's as good as the D3...
I'm going to cancel the D4 now...

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Cliff Mautner's photos look great. By ISO 6400, there's noticeable noise in the 100% crop, but I'm impressed by his results.

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superpong said:
I downloaded those samples and compared with mine from my own D700. I think the noise control of D700 is better.

Did you compare it to the down-scaled version of the ISO 6400 sample to 12mp ? You cannot compare the D700 at 100% to the D800 at 100% ! Is that so hard to understand ? Try up-scaling a 6400 ISO photo from the D700 to 36mp, and THEN compare it to the D800 at 100%.

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Am I the only one seeing the chroma noise in the magic-hour blue sky in the Rob Van Petten photo of the model against the skyline?

http://weblog.robvanpetten.com/archive/nikon-d800

It's shot at ISO 800 with a D800 (using an AF-S Nikkor 24mm f/1.4G @ f/8). One person commented on it the NR blog, so I took a look at it. These are very similar to the shots I'd like to produce. Now, the D800 images look gorgeous in well-lit scenes with lots of mid-tones, but throw blue sky at dusk in there, and look out. I was all set to buy a D800 for my cityscape shots, but I'd like to do them all at magic hour with a model, so super-long, time-exposures at ISO 100 won't always be an option.

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Here's another site where you can download the D800 images with high ISO:

http://mansurovs.com/nikon-d800-high-iso-image-samples

I was actually worried that the D800 would be a lot worse than D700 at handling noise when it comes to high ISO in low light (due to the amount of pixels in the sensor), but I must say that I was pleasantly surprised. It really isn't bad at all, and as several of you have said, you rarely go higher than maybe ISO 3200. The picture of the chandelier was a bit on the noisier side but it certainly wouldn't be impossible to get rid of this in post production.

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studio460 said:
Am I the only one seeing the chroma noise in the magic-hour blue sky in the Rob Van Petten photo of the model against the skyline?

at a resolution of 500x334 it is it possible to tell
or
is their a link to a high res version

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studio460

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No, but, click on the second copy of the image (the one within the text of the article), and you're able to view a 1.2MB, 1600 x 1068 version at 240 dpi.

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yohado said:
Here's another site where you can download the D800 images with high ISO:

Yes, I've seen those images. They're of mostly mid-tones without a lot of deep-hued chroma. Deep blue, magic-hour sky is the real test.

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studio460 said:
No, but, click on the second copy of the image (the one within the text of the article), and you're able to view a 1.2MB, 1600 x 1068 version at 240 dpi.

I think the pink is coming from the clouds reflecting the street lights and
looking a bit odd, in the relatively low res image

In real life you dont see the clouds, they are only pick up by the sensor
and present a challenge when deciding what to do in post

I dont think it is possible to judge any professional camera without seeing the RAW files

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shivaswrath

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Guys really? Those images look great....for me my main concern was this one shot I always have to take: bride and grooms fear dance. And from those images, at 3200 ISO and shooting with a 1.4 lens, I'll be golden!

Remember those images are also Pre-production...so a lot d that noise will be negated in our production models.

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studio460

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I forgot that was a pre-release body/firmware. No doubt, at low ISOs, this camera will shoot the pants off anything on the market as far as resolution and dynamic range goes. I was just a bit surprised at the amount of chroma noise I was seeing at only ISO 800. Hopefully, some of that was due to JPEG artifacting.

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zlik

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Studio460, I don't know if you checked out this sample at 6400 ISO:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/adriangramunt/6843616549/sizes/l/in/photostream/

It's down-scaled to 12mp (you can click on "original" and download it to your computer).

I mean if 6400 looks like that, there is no way you would see any noise at 800 ISO when displayed at 1200px wide. Just hard to believe.

For me, the above example of the sky at 640 ISO shows either a bad down-sampling algorithm, jpg artifacts, or too much shadow recovery in post. At least I think and hope so.

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"But now I am enthralled with this technology. Why? Because the images almost feel as though they were made with a 4x5 view camera!" Jim Brandenburg

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shivaswrath

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have you guys seen the hatorade over at the Canon camp?
http://fakechuckwestfall.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/nikon-d800-vs-canon-eos-1dx-image-quality/

Like seriously, WOW!

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Nikoner

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I looked at Nikon's spec site for MB-D12, and am yet not clear on how many batteries will fit in MB-D12.

Can someone educate me if the following configs are valid:

A. 1 EN-EL15 in camera + 2 EN-EL15 in MB-D12 grip.
B. 1 EN-EL15 in camera + 8 AA in MB-D12 grip.
C. 1 EN-EL15 in camera + 1 EN-EL18 in MB-D12 grip.
D. 0 battery in camera + any of the above in MB-D12 grip.

Thanks.

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donaldejose

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It appears the grip comes with two inserts; one for a EN-EL15 and one for AA batteries. Since we have no photographs of those inserts we don't know at this time just how they will work. I suggest it will be like the D700 battery grip for lack of any other info. EN-EL15 in camera plus one more in grip or EN-EL15 in camera plus 8 (or 6?) AA in battery grip. But I don't know for sure. Maybe some one does.

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shivaswrath said:
have you guys seen the hatorade over at the Canon camp?
http://fakechuckwestfall.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/nikon-d800-vs-canon-eos-1dx-image-quality/

Like seriously, WOW!

The joke in on them as all of the final production samples taken by the 1Dx are soft!

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studio460

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I just read Cliff Mautner's (Nikon D800 bridal photographer) blog update on the Nikon D800 sample images he posted recently. Well, I can certainly say one thing, Cliff Mautner is one helluva photographer! His work demonstrates that the camera certainly has stunning detail and impressive dynamic range. He also gives his opinion on the noise performance of the D800, saying he thinks it's about the same as a D3/D700.

As far as the D800 v. 1Dx "comparison" site, the images couldn't be more different. He's comparing high-key scenes shot around Zone VII from the 1Dx, to low-key shadow areas on the D800 with tonal ranges at the very bottom of the curve. It couldn't be more apples to oranges.

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shivaswrath said:
have you guys seen the hatorade over at the Canon camp?
http://fakechuckwestfall.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/nikon-d800-vs-canon-eos-1dx-image-quality/

Like seriously, WOW!

One of my colleagues in Japan is a Canon 5D mkII user, but does his film work on a a Pentax 6x7. I was always envious of his 6x7 but I never could see myself making the time to deal with medium format, but he loves it. He is looking to sell all his Canon gear and move to the D800.

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shivaswrath said:
have you guys seen the hatorade over at the Canon camp?
http://fakechuckwestfall.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/nikon-d800-vs-canon-eos-1dx-image-quality/

Like seriously, WOW!

So like how many times can they let the f-bomb fly? Seriously childish.......

Posted 1 year ago #
msmoto

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It is truly amazing how we take for granted the validity of information disseminated on the internet. The vast majority of the so called "factual" data, tests, etc., have very serious scientific flaws in the methodology used in coming to the conclusions presented. And when an individual resorts to such vulgarity and associates this with a specific brand, it is quite apparent the data has nothing to do with the camera or any truth but more the profound narcissistic nature of the individual so spouting their rhetoric. This level of immaturity is best dealt with by ignoring it than by pointing it out, as this is precisely what the narcissist wants.

The D800 will no doubt be able to perform way beyond most of our talents. And I am certain Canon will have a camera which will work well also. But for the life of me, I cannot image buying one of those Canon things, ha, ha, ha.

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El_Pickerel

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High ISO shots I saw from the Cliff Mautner thingee really seem to blow my D7000 out of the water. Probably still quite some time before I *should* think about a new body but the D800 may very well be it, unless there's a magic high ISO costs-less-than-the-D4 pony in the release schedule for soonish.

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Niz

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Here are some more High ISO shots. http://cmphotography.com/blog.cfm

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I just couldn't help myself........

http://fakechuckwestfall.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/nikon-d800-vs-canon-eos-1dx-image-quality/#comment-3191

I doubt Fake Chuck (whoever he is) approves my comment....lol

WOW.

Posted 1 year ago #