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  1. PaulR

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    Maybe its because I am from Yorkshire Uk , But Nikon are taking a filter off on the D800E and charging you more money for the pleasure, compared to the D800

    Well I don't think that will go down well in this part of the World!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. zlik

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    PaurR, when you ask for a Cheeseburger without gherking at a fast food, do they deliver it faster to you?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. kenadams

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    I was wondering about two things:

    * image quality at high ISO (just like anybody else in this thread.. ); I have a hard time believing Nikon cannot /aren't willing to at least match the IQ on a piece of equipment that is several years old, (D700), no matter how good it was

    * more general question: when watching the motorcycle promo video it looked like you could refocus while filming; don't really follow video on DSLRs, is that news or olds?

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  4. sevencrossing

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    sevencrossing said:
    but I will peorder a 800 E

    Well that was yesterday but having slept on it, my conclusion is

    I definitely need another FX body

    I don't think my clients are going to notice the increase resolution of the E

    Removing moire in post is going to be a pain in the bottom

    If I miss taking moire out of a clients tweed jacket, they are going to notice

    I don't think I can remove moire in video

    The D800E is for the guys who ONLY shoots studio and landscapes
    if like most photographers you do a mixture of work the 800 is the sensible option

    I don't often go above ISO 1600 and when I do, it really is dark so, I will hire a D4

    PS I have and will keep my D700 and MB D10

    but before I send my deposit off, what do my mates from NR think?

    ( i feel like guys deciding between a D5100 and a D7000)

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  5. zlik

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    @ kenadams, pros usually focus manually when shooting video. It's called focus pulling. The "cheap" way is by turning the focus ring on the lens with your hand while filming, the "pro" way is by using a focus-pulling mechanism, which deports the movement on a an external wheel. On a set, there is usually more than one person filming, the "camera operator", the "focus puller" etc.

    But anyway, from the D7000 and up, you can have continuous contrast-detection AF while filming.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. Gavlister

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    A few years back I did a 3 day course with Cliff Mautner(Nikon Ambassador and wedding photographer). He didn't like and wouldn't use the D3x cos it was too slow for wedding photography. When taking RAW it just took too long for the preview to appear on the rear screen. I tried it and agree. I am curious as to whether the D800 with its huge file size will have a similar problem or whether the new processor will fix this.

    I really like this camera but am not overly keen on such big files. If it does have a big delay then it may not be ideal for many types of photography. For ME, that will be the make or break feature.

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  7. zlik

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    @ sevencrossing: D800 of course.

    I think there quite a big mistake in Nikon's marketing with the double release D800 / D800E. A lot of people will think that the D800E is better, "because it's more expensive and has more resolution". They will go and buy the D800E and then they will be disapointed with the bad moiré on their pics.

    The problem is that a lot of people doesn't go to forums or is given good advice at stores.

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  8. TomSajinsa

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    zlik said:
    @ sevencrossing: D800 of course.

    I think there quite a big mistake in Nikon's marketing with the double release D800 / D800E. A lot of people will think that the D800E is better, "because it's more expensive and has more resolution". They will go and buy the D800E and then they will be disapointed with the bad moiré on their pics.

    The problem is that a lot of people doesn't go to forums or is given good advice at stores.

    I don't think Nikon is charging to remove the filter it charges more for the software that comes with the D800E, also it is said the D800E is for People that want the sharpest image like the once taken by medium format. Not for every one, but to models to make most of us happy. Chose, I'll get the D800. Cliff Mautner " Here, our model Rachel Johnston was photographed in Philadelphia at around 3pm in July in very harsh back light. Absolutely no fill flash or reflectors were used. The dynamic range speaks for itself&. Detail in the veil, detail in the gown, and her face is well exposed. In my eyes, there is absolutely improved dynamic range with this camera. I'll be able to maintain more detail in these conditions that ever before. "

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  9. sevencrossing

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    Ok Deposit paid and D800 on Pre order from local Calumet, mine is no 6. No one has ordered the E

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  10. shutterfinger

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    Just spoken to my local supplier. Because their D4 allocation has now slipped to the end of March, they are unlikely to receive the D800 allocation before end of April...

    Bugger...

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  11. dormant

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    I'm committed to getting mine now.

    I pre-ordered with B&H with delivery to a US address. They have already charged the full amount to my credit card as it is with a bank outside the US (this is their standard procedure, which I failed to spot).

    I'm actually quite glad that I now won't spend the waiting time wondering if I did the right thing.

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  12. dormant

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    zlik said:
    PaurR, when you ask for a Cheeseburger without gherking at a fast food, do they deliver it faster to you?

    You gherk when you order food?

    I like the comparison, but I think the D800E situation is more akin to asking for a cheeseburger with added anti-gherkin.

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  13. dormant

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    zlik said:
    http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/nikon-d800/zd800e_lpf1000.jpg

    Thanks for that.

    In my job I deal with temporal aliasing of acoustic signals, but I'm on a steep learning curve for spatial aliasing of images.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  14. zlik

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    Dormant, english is not my mother tongue. It's actually my 4th language, sorry for the mistake.

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  15. Rx4Photo

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    I just watched the "Through the Lens" video on the Nikon Rumors home page. If that's the real shutter sound of the D800, I want it ... I think it's way cooler than the D7000 shutter. If that kid can have a D800, then why can't I?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  16. zlik

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    Are you talking about the shutter sound of the D3100 the kid is holding ?

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  17. Rx4Photo

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    zlik said:
    Are you talking about the shutter sound of the D3100 the kid is holding ?

    You know, you're right! I'm doing what I shouldn't be doing - peeking at Nikon Rumors while at work. LOL. My mistake.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  18. dormant

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    zlik said:
    Dormant, english is not my mother tongue. It's actually my 4th language, sorry for the mistake.

    No need to apologise and I'm sorry if I offended you.

    I just thought it was a typo that accidentally generated a great-sounding new word.

    gherk, verb, to take a photograph without an anti-alising filter.
    gherk, noun, a person who takes a photograph without an anti-aliasing filter.

    Now back to the D800.

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  19. dr

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    Sorry if this has been discussed earlier, but do any of you who shoot weddings really want 36 mp? I've shot my fair share, and very few couples print extra large wedding pics anymore... So what's the benefit of the added file size for any of you? The 16 - 21 mp range is ideal for me. And no, I'm not just trying to stir the pot here.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  20. kenadams

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    check out the high ISO samples link on the blog: http://www.ferra.ru/ru/digiphoto/review/Nikon-D800-preview/print/

    I don't like the cafe table one at 25,600, but the rest of them look pretty decent to me... that ballrooom chandelier at 6400 would look like a screaming washed out turd without any detail at 1200 on my D80... anyone with serious ISO capacity wanting to chime in?

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  21. sevencrossing

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    kenadams said:
    check out the high ISO samples

    The 6400 looks as good or better than I would expect on my D700

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  22. donaldejose

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    I cannot download the original ISO 3200 and 6400 files. Anyone else having this trouble. Anyone able to download them and post a link that works. Really have to the original files to judge anything. The blog photos are too small.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  23. Havoc

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    I have never worked with digital before and my last camera I purchased was a Nikon N2020(35mm). I developed my prints from a darkroom and I've been reading this site for the last year trying getting up to speed with all this techno stuff and was going to buy the D700 (a year ago), but I wanted to wait and see what the D800 would bring to the table before buying. I did nature/landscapes in mostly black and white, just amatuer stuff but I enjoyed it greatly.

    Looking to get back in and thinking the D800 would be a good start.

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  24. zlik

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    Hi. Want to see what happens when you down-sample the D800 at 6400 ISO from 36 to 12mp ?
    Here:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/adriangramunt/6843616549/in/photostream

    If you want my opinion, that's the D800 right there challenging the D3s...

    Enjoy!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  25. Willis

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    Got a d800 on order.

    Would anybody care to point me to a good source for the do's and don'ts of downsampleing. Its not something I've ever had to bother with before but I can see it being an issue in the future.

    Posted 1 year ago #

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