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Wataru said:
I make money delivering documentation about the setup and operation of scientific and imaging equipment, and the high resolution will help me a lot, as I can take one photo, and crop several illustrations of what I need to describe.
That is brilliant!
I often have to take photos for documentation purposes and am amazed how many times I come back missing a detailed shot or two.
Anybody else think the sample images may have a tipo re the ISO, normal 100-200-400-800-1600-3200-6400! Could the bride be at 6400? 640 is a strange ISO setting. Have the D800 on order so must sell my D7000 and DX lenses - was planing on keeping them before the release but don't see any point with the spec of the D800. And the D800 came in under what I expected to have to pay. So great work Nikon
I kinda wanted the D800 to be more like 18 MP because that would mean I wouldn't have to change my workflow too much.
But 36 MP is way too much. Heck, I still work with 6 MP and I'm happy with that.
D7000 then for me I guess or whatever equivalent to that if I ever decide to change bodies.
To be honest I'd rather have 12 MP in DX again if it meant cleaner images at high ISOs.
What are your thoughts on differences in dynamic range between the D4 and the D800? I'm looking for a new time-lapse camera and will be shooting RAW for maximizing dynamic range. The problem with the D800 is that my memory cards will fill up a lot faster compared to a D4.
Would be nice to be able to shoot RAW with lower than the native resolution. The D800 resolution is probably too high, and a D700/D3s might be a better solution...at least a more affordable one than the D4!
Iso 640 isn't stock but it is on almost every nikon DSLR Iv'e used. Odd Iso but it is just like using a f-stop of 7.1 or a SS 0f 320. They all exist.
Nikon will realize they need to release a high performance Mid-range body above the D7000 and put a D400 or D700x out there...
don't see any problems with iso 640. normal, regular iso to shoot.
ISO settings can be set in 1/3 ev. 100-160-320-400-500-640-800-1000-1250-1600-2000-2500-3200-4000-5000-6400-8000-10000-12800...
that shooter was using ISO in the 1/3 intervals, I prefer that too..I usually do 640>800 in the D7k (which might have to carry over to the D800)....
I went for a D4 4 because I dont trust just hearing that the ISO is good. I have not seen anything above iso640 besides the little thumbnails on Nikons site at 6400..s
shivaswrath said:
that shooter was using ISO in the 1/3 intervals, I prefer that too..I usually do 640>800 in the D7k (which might have to carry over to the D800)....
Why so low? I usually use Iso 100, 400, 1600, 2500 (minimal noise at this level), & 4000 on my D7000. My D90 is 100, 400, 800, 1250... I either use the lowest unless it is dark out or I need more DOF for a max SS
So...
i started this thread with high hopes of a reasonable discussion about what is in the D800, and what isn't. what might be fun to try and what will be different from what exists already.
SNORE!
it seems all anyone on this board cares about is whether it is something other than what it is.
the specs are there for all to see. why are you complaining that it is not what you want? I don't care if you don't want it, don't buy it! and go and post in another thread.
3 pages of useless drivel and not a single piece of useful information.
Gareth said:
So...i started this thread with high hopes of a reasonable discussion about what is in the D800, and what isn't. what might be fun to try and what will be different from what exists already.
SNORE!
it seems all anyone on this board cares about is whether it is something other than what it is.
the specs are there for all to see. why are you complaining that it is not what you want? I don't care if you don't want it, don't buy it! and go and post in another thread.
3 pages of useless drivel and not a single piece of useful information.
No worries, All of the threads I've started got hijacked.
I am neutral on the D800. I really wanted between 5-6fps which is the dealbreaker for me. $6400 is too much to pay for the line of work I do so I may just get a D700. I feel like Nikon outdid the D800 in some categories and didn't maximize the tech in other. It feels like a 5dmk2 in a way. Over speced in a few categories and under-performing in others. It seems as if their prime target is 5dmk2 users. The problem with that goal is that all their D700 users ran to them with open wallets hoping for a D700 with video and more Fps, not a nikon 5Dmk2...
So what is it? 36mpx (still have to try it), The 100% viewfinder is welcome as is the battery type. I really like that it takes the same batteries as the D7000. I also like that the ISO is extendable to 50. If it has the same ISO performance as the D700 (which I doubt) I'll be happy. I have yet to try it to see if the Dx fps makes up for the cripple. I shoot sports so I have no ties to huge image size . I actually see architectural photogs snapping on this and nasa too. Im not digging it's sync speed. I find it odd that a "studio" type camera would only have a sync of 1/250 when some of their older (and current) models do faster.
1 Cf and 1 SD? They put a xqd slot in the d4 so why? Mabye to satisfy the D4/D800 user as well as the D800/D7000 user. It poses the question as to what the D400 will have.
16bit sync sounds like a welcome addition. I really wonder what working with a raw will be like for this. (I also wonder if CS6 will support D4/D800 raw on release)
I also wonder if it will have a sound out port like the D4?
I really like their new left Dial setup. Looks much easier to grip and adjust with one hand. Also love the price. I was cringing at the "projected" $4000 tag. Odd they kept the AF point lock ring when they dumped it off the D4. I was also hoping for the array of rubber flaps on the D4 but got just 1 flap instead...
gareth, d800 is a studio and landscape camera nothing more nothing less. will I buy it, most likely yes as it fullfils my needs for a second body. it's small, faster than d300s (in 14bit nef) and has a lot of potential for nature and cropping.
Gareth said:
i started this thread with high hopes of a reasonable discussion about what is in the D800, and what isn't. what might be fun to try and what will be different from what exists already.
SNORE!
it seems all anyone on this board cares about is whether it is something other than what it is.
You started a thread before anyone but Nikon testers have one in their hands - It's too early.
Everything is impressive, the promo video is amazing - I didn't see any rolling shutter, and at those speeds that is more than impressive.
I'm still stuck with needing to see the High ISO where the images are lacking. The absence of them is creating some concerns.
My decision this year is a D800, D400 or the Fuji X-pro1. It may sound odd, but I need the High iso more than resolution, and anything else, I use flash and studio lights so my D300 still performs great.
I haven't been here since a very long time ago (maybe over a year). I'm thinking the D800 looks like a great portrait or landscape camera, though I'm sure you could press it into service for controlled action photos.
However, I'm picking up the D4 as I don't need 36mp. I prefer high ISO and high speed.
This looks like the camera I will get, depending on what the higher ISO images look like. If I can shoot clean at 1600 I will be happy. I also wonder what the buffer is for the 4fps, I wasn't able to find it anywhere.
"Buffer capacity for FX shooting is 16 NEF at worst compression settings (25 at best), 16 for TIFF, and 56 for JPEG fine large (100 for other JPEG settings)." THogan
dormant said:
That is brilliant!I often have to take photos for documentation purposes and am amazed how many times I come back missing a detailed shot or two.
I wish I could take credit for the idea. I learned from someone who told me NOT to take close ups of the same scene because the difference in perspective, lighting, and depth of field will confuse the user. Take one properly illuminated high resolution image and crop and enlarge for details. The reader will have an easier time following the illustration if they see the detail is just a blow-up of the overall photo.
This was a lot easier to do with film (but slower and more expensive) where resolution was not limited by quickly approaching those funny square pixels. For digital photography you need a medium format camera with digital back or, now, the D800. And this will be a lot faster. But is isn't art, it's just technical illustration.
With the AA filter removed in the 800E, does it mean there is now no layer over the sensor - not even just plain glass for protection ( AA was also serving that purpose )? Until now, any dust on sensor was not actually on the sensor but was on the AA filter and cleaning the "sensor" was fairly easy.
It may not be so if there is now no protective layer but I'm sure Nikon has thought of that :-) .
guys, AA filter can't be fully eliminated, the d800e has a filter on it but the AA function is, let's say it in easy to understand words, turned off.
adamz said:
... please don't expect anything above iso 1600 will be fully usable, that's not what this camera was build for. it's a studio/landscape camera, nothing more nothing less.
in DX mode the D800 has 15.4 MP slightly less than the D7K 16.2
I have not used the D7K but most people think its high ISO results are OK
It won't be as good as a D4, but Nikon must know wedding photographs are a prime market for this camera and weddings require shooting in unavailable light in dim churches and chapels
Landscape photographers often supplement there income doing events and weddings
It is difficult to believe Nikon are going to bring out a FX camera that has poorer high ISO performances than the D700
The man from Calumet is trying to persuade me to part with a lot more £££ and buy a D4 I am going to waite
adamz said:
guys, AA filter can't be fully eliminated, the d800e has a filter on it but the AA function is, let's say it in easy to understand words, turned off.
zlik said:
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/nikon-d800/zd800e_lpf1000.jpg
ahhh
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