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Update to Lightroom 4, get one good memory card of 16GB, and edit your images in the computer so only, and I do mean only the ones you have fully processed and are keeping are in the computer. Then delete the rest. And wait for your replacement D800. You will find the wait is no doubt worth it.
I was going to purchase a D3s about one and a half years ago, but was told the D4 would be out "soon". My wait was about a year for my D4.
I just checked the number of photos on flickr taken with the D800 and the D800E.
D800: 231,718
D800E: 20,695
This might reflect the relative number of these models in the wild - approx. 12:1
Sadly my D800 is still misbehaving still, even after updating the firmware. I am constantly getting the lockup issue- so often that I am missing key shots for clients... I ordered some new, faster memory cards but i don't think that is going to help... I think I'm going to have to send it into Nikon and hope for the best. I've also noticed a very apparent focusing issue. It seems to be front-focusing by a large margin of error, especially on my 85 1.4d lens.
Other things I've noticed were that the camera froze/locked up whil using the built in RAW photo editor. Also, when the lockup occurs it defaults the camera back to the settings when it was first powered on- For instance if i powered up and it was in "Neutral" mode, then decided to change it to "Portrait" or "Monochrome" and set a bunch of other setting (EV comp, sharpening, whatever...) and took a bunch of shots and got the lockup- after pulling the battery and starting up again it would be back in "Neutral" mode and not retain any of the "changed" settings...
I ordered a D800 from the Nikon Store yesterday around noon and received an order confirmation around at about 4:00 yesterday. I called them today around noon to see if it shipped and they said they would email the appropriate manager to see what's up. Still no shipping confirmation about 24 hours after order confirmation. I cancelled B&H order earlier today. B&H certainly is easier to deal with and doesn't charge $15 shipping and tax like the Nikon Store. I sure hope that I hear something today!
I saw that one person said that they got shipping notification from Nikon Store shortly after 24 hours. Does anyone else have experience with the Nikon Store and shipping?
Picture Unit, I also ordered around noon on Jun. 14 from the Nikon Store. I received order confirmation at 3:27pm CST that day, and I received shipping confirmation the next day at 9:51pm CST. The camera is scheduled for delivery Monday. I was starting to think I may have missed the last D800 by moments until I received the shipping confirmation late that night. I'm sure you'll hear something soon.
jrozga said:
My D800E just arrived. My happinness lasted only a few hours. When the camera is operated in a manual mode, the shutter speed jumps all over the scale. Basically, after taking a shot, the S changes to a different value (even jumping from 100 to 8000) when another shot is taken under identical light conditions and aperture. Even after restarting the camera, the S is often at 2000 or 8000. Has anybody experienced this kind of a nuisance?
Has anyone with the D800/D800E bought the MB-D12 grip? Does the added grip, extra shutter release, and extended battery life make it worth it's $450 price tag? Seems kind of steep for no added performance, but maybe I'm missing something. It'd be nice if it added some extra frames per second like many other battery grips seem to do.
I bought it. Because:
1). I like the bigger body.
2). I like the vertical grip.
3). I like the extended battery life.
4). It can use the same battery as the D4.
5). When used with the D4 battery, I believe it does up the frame rate in DX mode.
Here's a thought: I feel that I can hold the camera more stable in portrait mode when I have a vertical grip. Given the d800s resolution, I think I might get improved image quality using the vertical grip... and the added mass probably doesn't hurt either.
Is it worth the price? Well, it was for me, what do you think?
Regarding the grip, it adds a lot of extra surface area to hang onto, the body seems large enough without it but it felt more solid in my hands with a lens like the 14-24mm 2.8. It is somewhat largish and bulky. I compared it to an F5 film body and the d800 with the grip is taller and generally takes up more space in the bag. I personally like large cameras so I love it but I also see that if it had been just a little smaller it could have served the same purpose and would have been more streamlined for space in the bag. I had also bought the grip for the d7000, it changes that camera from being quite compact to being bulky and now with the d800 in the bag I think I will dispense with the d7000 grip (I keep a lens on it and it is great without the grip in terms of compactness in the bag and usefulness in having another focal length ready to shoot). I had a great time with the d7000 and the d800 without grips and a few lenses, if you add the grips it presents space problems and with just the d800 grip it actually adds noticeable limits on the space, something to consider. Personally, I love grips if available so I am biased in that direction, I think it could have been perfect if the overall camera size of the d800 with the grip would have been closer to the d3/d4.
Got mine today. :)
Anyone want to buy my D700?
Am I the only one who is finding it really difficult to find anything I am looking for in these 17+ pages of messages about all and every subject to do with the D800E?
Please can we have a different thread for each subject (e.g. lock up problems, focussing problems, card problems)?
Wingston said:
Hi peopleI have been thinking about a D800 as I understand that the full frame cameras are better than their DX cousins in low light. I didn't understand the tech to be honest but took it on spec. My D700 performs brilliantly in low light but I want the video option. I went to Greys of Westminster (what a place) to ask abut the 800. The guy there says that as the 800 has so many megapixels the low light performance won't be as good. I didn't get it but didn't have the guts to quiz the guy further as he had already given me a 'what, you didn't work it out for yourself' kind of looks.
So, any opinions out there.
I am looking for an excuse to just go for a D7000 and the new 18-300 (27-450) Nikon lens
Hi Wingston,
Seems that you're somewhat deciding between getting a D800 or a D7000. Although I probably can't answer the detailed technical parts of your question (there are threads on this board that delve into that) I can honestly say that the low light (high ISO) IQ of the D800 is better than that of the D7000. I have both cameras. As much as I love tripod-mounted low light long exposure stuff I have also taken low light high ISO snaps with the D800 with pretty good results. Maybe not D3S or D4 quality but pretty darned good. The high ISO grain from the D800 is also more visually pleasant than the high ISO grain from the D7000.
In terms of video. I hate to tell you but from my limited use thusfar, video quality from the D800 is smoother and more HDTV-like than video from my D7000. Overall, it's a much better camera than some might imply.
Here's one thread I found discussing Low light Video with the D800:
http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=5391
If I order a D800E today, what are the chances that the unit I get won't have a focus issue? Since Nikon hasn't officially acknowledged the issue, not sure if they make sure everything that gets shipped to retailers are not defective with the wide spread focus issue.
@D70, I think the chances are excellent that your camera will be fine. Thom Hogan reported on Jul 26 that in a recent survey of dealers, it appeared as if they were no longer finding left focus problems. I have had my D800E for about a month and it tested fine.
Whether or not they are talking about it, Nikon has been aware of the problem for awhile. They know the fix and they know the problem. I think that it is extremely unlikely that Nikon would knowingly produce cameras with this problem once they determined the problem was real.
My understanding is that the problem was the result of a calibration issue with a machine that is used to determine a set of software parameters necessary to match the AF sensor to the body assembly. Once the problem was known, the fix should have been straightforward. Not so easy is re-calibrating the bodies that are now in the hands of consumers.
My feeling is that the manufacturing issue has been eliminated, and now Nikon is trying to figure out how to handle those units which have the problem.
I think the camera you purchase will be fine.
Thanks Eric. I'll go ahead and order one. I'll go with D800 instead of the E. My old eyes can't tell the difference anyway.
@D70 - The D800 is probably a good move. The difference between the sharpness of the d800E and D800 is really small, whereas you're bound to run into Moire'.
Well, Nikon told me to send my D800 in for service. I'm hoping that it comes back without the lockup errors anymore and that also they check/calibrate the autofocus settings. There's also oil spots which i had a real problem with on my D7000 also..
msmoto said:So, any opinions out there.
I am looking for an excuse to just go for a D7000 and the new 18-300 (27-450) Nikon lens
Last Friday I shot a concert using my D800 with jpeg on the middle size. The ISO quality was much better then what I had been getting with my D7000 using the same lenes (24-70/70-200).
That said, the D800 ISO is better but the question is, is it worth the extra $1,800? And to that I say it is. The D800 also takes shots at a lower ISO then what I was getting from my D7000 shooting in S mode with Auto ISO.
The D7000 is still awesome in low light, just not as good as the D800.
Bland said:
Last Friday I shot a concert using my D800 with jpeg on the middle size. The ISO quality was much better then what I had been getting with my D7000 using the same lenes (24-70/70-200).That said, the D800 ISO is better but the question is, is it worth the extra $1,800? And to that I say it is. The D800 also takes shots at a lower ISO then what I was getting from my D7000 shooting in S mode with Auto ISO.
The D7000 is still awesome in low light, just not as good as the D800.
Agree with that - What I have really noticed is the color depth and accuracy at higher ISOs is much better as well. That goes a long way in "hiding" noise as well.
TaoTeJared said:
Agree with that - What I have really noticed is the color depth and accuracy at higher ISOs is much better as well. That goes a long way in "hiding" noise as well.
Absolutely, here's an example of the color depth and accuracy with the D800 at 3600 high iso, hardly any visible noise!
Well, I sold the majority of my DX gear (D90 and some lenses) and am now the proud owner of a brand spanking new D800!
It's only been a half a day, but man this camera is pretty darn amazing.
Can't wait to put it though it's paces.
Congratulations Reg!
@Bland - if you use a WB cap (expodisk or other) it really knocks the noise down even more. Although the concerts might go real funky then as well ;)
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