for regular, well lit churches (not a small wooden one with poor lights) d800 is more than enough, for reception d800 w/o flash is not enough, with flash is more than sufficient - haven't shot session shots, as I was a guest there only
D800 Discussion Thread
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Posted 1 year ago #
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as for my PP, I use aperture and occasionally play with the grain bar, but I prefer to shoot the way I don't need to do too much PP - old analog habit
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Beso said:
What would you suggest for a very good printer capable of at least 13 X 19 Wataru?Personal preference, of course. I get great results up to 13 x 19 from the Canon 9500 mkII, and I hear very good things about Epson stylus pro large format printers. If you have the money, there is are a lot of good reviews for the Epson stylus pro R3880 roll printers that will print 17 inches wide for 17 x 24. I will probably be looking into one of those in the future.
There are better sources than me for how to pick a printer: I just went with the one that had lots of different colors of ink and including three different blacks. The rebate was better for the Canon, so i ended up paying only $400, but if I were going to do more B&W printing I might have gone with the Epson R3000 which has four blacks instead of three. The R3880 lets you change cartridges in the middle of a print, which I think is cool.
For me spending 500 to 1500 dollars on a printer is a MUCH better investment than buying yet another lens. Taking pictures is part of the process: displaying the results is the final purpose. So rather than buy that 85 mm f/1.4 AF-S I think I'll be saving up for a R3880.
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Wataru said:
Personal preference, of course. I get great results up to 13 x 19 from the Canon 9500 mkII, and I hear very good things about Epson stylus pro large format printers. If you have the money, there is are a lot of good reviews for the Epson stylus pro R3880 roll printers that will print 17 inches wide for 17 x 24. I will probably be looking into one of those in the future.There are better sources than me for how to pick a printer: I just went with the one that had lots of different colors of ink and including three different blacks. The rebate was better for the Canon, so i ended up paying only $400, but if I were going to do more B&W printing I might have gone with the Epson R3000 which has four blacks instead of three. The R3880 lets you change cartridges in the middle of a print, which I think is cool.
For me spending 500 to 1500 dollars on a printer is a MUCH better investment than buying yet another lens. Taking pictures is part of the process: displaying the results is the final purpose. So rather than buy that 85 mm f/1.4 AF-S I think I'll be saving up for a R3880.
Thank you so much for the response. I have read good things about the Canon 9500 MK II. You are correct regarding the ultimate purpose of photography; which is to display the results. Prior to investing I will research the Epson but I am also curious about ink durability/longevity (assuming one takes the normal UV precautions) and paper lifespan. Then again, I won't be here in 50 years so I guess lifespan/durability is not necessarily an overwhemling concern. Finally there is the trade-off of how much to invest, what to print at home, and what to outsource. I would love to have a large format printer but I am not sure there is any justification for it.
Oh, and one other thing, I do plan to add the 85mm f/1.4G AF-S to my lens collection but I first have to get the D800!!!
Thanks again. I appreciate the response.
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Hey, I know this is the D800 thread, but some thoughts about the D4 have been put up here. And, my query today is about the High ISO ability of the D800. As I have no problem using ISO 10,000 with the D4, is ISO 6400 not a good fit in the D800? Are there examples of this somewhere on NRF?
We all have our opinion about what level of noise/grain we will tolerate, but having come from the old pushed Tri-X ASA 800 B & W days, I really do not find grain or noise anything but a part of the photographic process. It would be nice to see some ISO 6400 on PAD from the D800. This would then become an excellent companion to the D4.
As far as weddings.... I am from the old film days and have the same ideas as expressed above.... High ISO, essential for the tough casual shots and some of the action later on.
Post processing.... gosh, I spend forever making silk purses out of sow's ears....ha, ha, ha. Or for those not familiar with the English expressions, correcting some big errors or difficult shots in the darkroom.. I used to take an hour to print one photo sometimes. Setting up a complex burn and dodge technique, swing in paddles and several different holes in cards... But, again, we are such a wonderfully diverse group on NRF, this is what makes it all so great.
So, High ISO D800....where are you?
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@msmoto - I would say, up to iso 1600 excellent, above that quality (mostly DR) decreases), comparing to d3s, I would say 1 - 1.5 ev difference - I fell very comfortable using my d3s at 3200, while I really don't feel that comfy using d800 at 1600 nor 2000
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I must lean how to post photos
I have been doing some comparisons D700 V D800I did not like using my D700 above ISO 1600
but the D800 seems OK up to ISO 3200
but I do a lot of PP in LR
the main loss is not noise, but lack color fidelity
at ISO 6400 the D800 is slightly better than the D700The thing I really love about the D800 ( compared to the D700) is the auto ISO which takse focal length into account )
The thing I dislike ( at the moment )is not being able to quickly switch between Grid and spot focusing
sorry I do not have D4 to compare it with
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sevencrossing said:
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The thing I dislike ( at the moment )is not being able to quickly switch between Grid and spot focusing ....Have you tried pressing the AF mode button and rotating the sub-command dial? This changes the focusing mode quickly.
We should have a D800 Tips and Tricks thread.
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I was just thinking- imagine how large your files would be if you used a Gigapan rig with a D800?
My white MacBook from 2008 just ran away screaming.
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@msmoto, I took your request for ISO 6400 examples and ran with it. I went outside and took two quick snap shots at ISO 6400 with my D800, 50mm f/1.4 @1/1000. The images are straight out of the camera with no PP at all.
When I get a chance to take some pictures of humans to show skin tone I'll do so and report back.
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Hi all,
I'm awaiting my D800 this month (who isn't )
I do a significant amount of night photography and what I'm interested in is, finding out the file size of the raw files at ISO settings. As you are aware, increasing iso, increases file sizes. SO before I go forking out more money on a 64gb card, I want to know what file sizes I'll be recording so that i will be getting the appropriate speed card.
Could I ask a favour of someone with a D800 to take a 30 second exposure in low light at iso 3200 and let me know the file size?
I should add that this will be for nighttime timelapse with a typical interval of 2-3 seconds.
Regards
DamienPosted 1 year ago # -
damienstenson said:
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Could I ask a favour of someone with a D800 to take a 30 second exposure in low light at iso 3200 and let me know the file size?
....I had never heard that the files would be larger. I got 42 MB for a 30 sec ISO 3200 exposure. I get files I get files ranging for 36 to 52 MB depending on subject, at ISO 100, so I don't think there is much of a difference. File sizes seem to vary much more based on subject than on ISO.
Get a 32GB card. That will hold 400 exposures. I use a 133x card. You can also used 12 bit rather than 14 bit for your RAW, which will give you a lot more images on your card, and there is no need for 14 bit at ISO6400. I doubt you will fill the buffer taking 30 sec exposures, but you might fill it after a long while if they are large files a one every 2 sec. One every 3 secs doesn't seem to fill my buffer at 1/30 sec exposures.
I'm off to train a client who will be very happy with his two new cameras: A D7000 and a D800.
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Thanks Wataru.
I never shoot at 6400. I have a D3s which i use for night shots and it usually sits around the 1250 iso mark. Yes, the increase in ISO pushes the file size.I usually set it to 14bit for being able to pull the more out of the shadows if needs be. At 14bit at 3200, i'm guessing closer to 80mb raw files?
Thanks for your help WatruPosted 1 year ago # -
I saw my first D800 in the wild today.
Another shooter in the gardens of th Getty Center using a D800. He had a 24-120 mm lens.
There was also a D3S shooter struggling to catch bumblebees with a non-Nikon macro lens.Posted 1 year ago # -
I received my D800 today(finally). after the first press the shutter. Very disappointed. I don't know if it is my finger problem or the shutter problem. It seems it is impossible to press it half way to focus. Every time i tried to press it half way and it just take the photo.
I did checked the menu and played around with the shutter button setting and the problem stay the same.
Before i go back to the store to yell around. I would like to know if anyone have this issues to your camera.
thanksPosted 1 year ago # -
I would suggest making certain battery is fully charged by removing and placing in charger. Also, check other AF functions to see if they are working properly. Is there a lens compatibility issue? Ask a friend to check it out if you think maybe it is your pushing the button too firmly. Check to make certain the camera is set to AF and not M focus mode. It has been my experience that I will go through a lot of errors with new equipment, simply because I do not have something set properly.
Good luck...
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Hi msmoto, thanks for your response. I did check with a frd and he is a nikon user as well , both of us feel the same thing. i tried the 85 1.8 af , and the 18-55 2.8dx , i will try my 24-70 tonite. and of course i will try to charge the battery in full ..
will post update tonitePosted 1 year ago # -
nofai said:
Hi
Does anyone has this problem ?
I feel it is very hard to press the shutter halfway . the feeling is the distance from half way to shoot is too short . I am not able to hold it halfway.. 80% of the time it will just shoot the photo when i try to focus
hope you understand what i am talking about ...i tried both in af-s af-c and tried 3 lens , all the same
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msmoto said:
On my sample I was experiencing same problem. I found source in:
MENU>CUSTOM SETTING MENU>AUTOFOCUS>AF-C PRIORITY SELECTION
>AF-S PRIORITY SELECTION
Make sure you have it set for "FOCUS" otherwise camera will take a shoot at the time of pressing shutter.Another clue:
-in your current settings, try to press "AF-ON" button (on back left side of scroll), and than press shutter.
Good luck, and make sure your lens and camera are not set up for manual!11Posted 1 year ago # -
hi iro11
my both a1 and a2 are set to "focus" ...
I dont like to use the af-on button cause i use my thumb for the ae-L, and i have no extra thumb for another button.NOw i cant re-compose the pic after focus , it just always accident fire ....
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nofai said:
...my both a1 and a2 are set to "focus" ...With same settings (a1, a2 set to "FOCUS") I am not able to take a shot if camera is not "FOCUS" (lens cup on :). No matter how hard I am pressing it is not releasing shutter.
I think it is possible, that your example has some malfunction.
Maybe other members have more experience in that matter.
Good luck!!Posted 1 year ago # -
Went back to the store , they said it is a problem and they took it as a return , dont know when i will see my d800 next ...
this is my luck with D800 ... may be God is telling me I dont deserve it ..
1. All my Kingston card not support.
2. my lightroom not support
3. my computer is too slow for that
4. I only have 80 gb left in my hardrive ..
After all that ....
Anyone has a D700 for sell ? I want my D700 back now ...Posted 1 year ago # -
Here's another example of 1600iso from the D800E. Keep in mind that this was a hand-held shot so it is potentially blurry on sharp edges. I find nothing wrong with shooting at this high of ISO. I think it looks very, very good.
Edit: I can't figure out how to post a Flickr picture on here without linking it. Ugh! Anyway, my flickr name is "aorr"
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aorr said:
Here's another example of 1600iso from the D800E. Keep in mind that this was a hand-held shot so it is potentially blurry on sharp edges. I find nothing wrong with shooting at this high of ISO. I think it looks very, very good.
Edit: I can't figure out how to post a Flickr picture on here without linking it. Ugh! Anyway, my flickr name is "aorr"
`@aorr : While viewing a photo on Flickr, look above the photo for the "share" button. Click on it then click on the size 800px. This is the size limit for NRF. Then copy the text and paste it in the body of the post.
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