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I am so impressed with the jump I made from the D200 to the D800.
I now need to decide what I am going to replace my Tokina 11-16mm lens with - any thoughts welcome
I have been writing a blog on the D800 over the last 3 days - *LINK REMOVED*
Thanks
Nigel
Just curious, how many of you think the D800 looks slightly awkward with all the weird flowing lines?
I'm sure it's a great camera, I just think the D700 looks more proper.
do you think they will raise the d800 price for US too?
My local Best Buy hasn't received any D800s. I think that is a good thing for me for now. I know some of my lenses will shine on it, not sure about the others. I know the old 70-200 is notorious for having soft corners, so I think maybe while D800s are hard to get a hold of I will be in the market for a new telephoto lens.
I might have made a tremendous mistake yesterday. I called my local privately owned camera store to ask if they'd received any D800s yet.
Camera store guy: "yeah, we've gotten them in and people have come to buy them."
Me: "Well, I'm not really in the market to buy one yet but would love to take a look at one next time you get one in.
Camera store guy: " The best bet would be to get your name on our waiting list and I'll call you the next time they come in.
Me: "My wife would kill me if she knew I was calling about this."
Camera store guy: "I've heard that before. Ha ha."
Me: "................. my cellphone number is (XXX) XXX-XXXX. Thanks"
This is the same store that opened a D7000 kit and sold me the body only while I was still waiting for B&H to get my pre-order in back in 2010. I truly "fear" that they will get one in and I'll have to make a decision on the spot to buy it or leave it.....and I will be very, very weak.
i think the d800 isnt looking as good as d700 also, as mentioned earlier posts. D700 is a little bigger and size matters for me.
I hope they will not increase the price in the US. I think they wont. at least i already made my order.
My wife is the one telling me to get it so i can take more photo of her since our son broke the last camera. 3 years old baby love to throw things on the ground :( and my wife is NOT ok with iphone although i think i do take good pictures with it. She demands me print HUGE photos of her and hang on every single wall we have in the house.
ndanson said:
I now need to decide what I am going to replace my Tokina 11-16mm lens with - any thoughts welcomeThanks
Nigel
You bought the D800, now you need the 14-24mm, which is the first lens of the Holy Trinity. If you are a filter guy and you need 15mm, it's the Zeiss 15mm, which costs what your camera cost you, and is manual focus.
Recent Convert said:
You bought the D800, now you need the 14-24mm, which is the first lens of the Holy Trinity. If you are a filter guy and you need 15mm, it's the Zeiss 15mm, which costs what your camera cost you, and is manual focus.
There are a few different filter options out there for the 14-24 now, some square filters and some round filters. I went with the 16-35 myself. Taking 77mm filters, having great corner sharpness when stopped down, and having vibration reduction for when low ISO, small aperture, and circular polarizer reduce my shutter speed to where I might need a tripod... yes please! Sure it doesn't go to f/2.8 to have an extra stop of light for shallow DOF or stopping motion, but I have the 24mm f/1.4 for that.
Now I just need to see a D800 somewhere and as long as my bank account allows it, that'll be that. :D
Recent Convert said:
You bought the D800, now you need the 14-24mm, ....
I just pulled the trigger on this lens, which is in stock at B&H, unlike D800s. I've already got the other two lenses. It will be interesting to have wide angle wider than 24 mm, which is the widest I've been using.
I'll be spending the next bit of time programming in my non-PC manual focus lenses...
I am reviewing the D800 samples on the nikonrumors flickr and I am surprised (shocked) to see noise in the background at 100% crop, even at ISO 100. I cannot get the full rez past the top bokey as flickr quits, so the only thing I see is what appears to be noise.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nikonrumors/7019783467/sizes/l/in/set-72157629289734604/
Am I reading the pics wrong?
Pierre said:
I am reviewing the D800 samples on the nikonrumors flickr and I am surprised (shocked) to see noise in the background at 100% crop, even at ISO 100. I cannot get the full rez past the top bokey as flickr quits, so the only thing I see is what appears to be noise.http://www.flickr.com/photos/nikonrumors/7019783467/sizes/l/in/set-72157629289734604/
Am I reading the pics wrong?
What on earth are you looking at? You might want to check your link to make sure that is the correct picture. I don't see any noise what so ever.
TaoTeJared said:
What on earth are you looking at?
Get the big (original) file. I finally got it,probably past the bed time of many. I also find the sky noizy on this one (but not as much) too, http://www.flickr.com/photos/nikonrumors/7019634839/sizes/o/in/set-72157629289734604/
I find I do not need to zoom that much before noticing the noise.
They are pretty much all the same. I find the 100% crop bokey horrible and flat. Now I am starting to worry a lot.
I just asked a similar question in the D4 thread, regarding expected near-term D4 availability. For those who haven't pre-ordered a D800, when does everyone think that D800 bodies will become more readily available? Given that D800 production is expected to be higher than D4 production, could this be as short as one or two months?
Pierre said:
Get the big (original) file. I finally got it,probably past the bed time of many. I also find the sky noizy on this one (but not as much) too, http://www.flickr.com/photos/nikonrumors/7019634839/sizes/o/in/set-72157629289734604/I find I do not need to zoom that much before noticing the noise.
They are pretty much all the same. I find the 100% crop bokey horrible and flat. Now I am starting to worry a lot.
If you think that is noise you are going to be waiting decades for something that is satisfactory. These aren't vector graphic images they are photographs. If you want the sky to be only one color, you can always NR the thing to death or just pain can fill it. I see absolutely nothing wrong with it at all.
studio460 said:
I just asked a similar question in the D4 thread, regarding expected near-term D4 availability. For those who haven't pre-ordered a D800, when does everyone think that D800 bodies will become more readily available? Given that D800 production is expected to be higher than D4 production, could this be as short as one or two months?
Considering the D700 was always back ordered I'm willing to bet it will be a good 6-8 months before you can walk into a store and plan on buying one. Considering how good the images look, I'm willing they will sell more than the D700 by a long shot. If you order one though - I bet you could see one in a few months for sure.
ok guys, got my package today, and... so far so good. acceptable iso (up to 2000), fps - slow, buffer size - small, too small, app 10 14bit news, only 100 images on 8gb cf card, IQ AWESOME, handling nice, apart from small size (have big hands and got spoiled with d3s), don't like the lack of AF selector - though, I understand why Nikon decided to get rid of it with some many different settings, I guess I'll have to get used to it. more comments later, when the battery gets loaded.
TaoTeJared said:
If you think that is noise ... If you want the sky to be only one color... I see absolutely nothing wrong with it at all.
So you are saying that what I see at 100% crop is not noise? For sure the sky should not be uniforme but at ISO 100, shouldn't it be creamy?
To think of having to denoise at low ISO is definitely not something I was anticipating. Perhaps it still produces better images when cropping than the D700. I may be wrong I hope, but to me the 100% crop is really crappy point&shoot like.
TaoTeJared said:
....Considering the D700 was always back ordered I'm willing to bet it will be a good 6-8 months before you can walk into a store and plan on buying one. Considering how good the images look, I'm willing they will sell more than the D700 by a long shot. If you order one though - I bet you could see one in a few months for sure....
I need to get a second body for my client, so I just checked the website of a major Japanese seller (Kimura) and their wait time for a D800 is no less than two months. Too bad, as I was going to make a buying run to Tokyo next month. The Canon 5D mkIII is not much better at 4 to 6 weeks. I doubt U.S. market will see cameras faster than that, so if you want one, order it now from several on-line places and keep checking at Best Buy and hope that one shows up before someone else grabs it. (I got lucky myself)
Pierre said:
So you are saying that what I see at 100% crop is not noise? For sure the sky should not be uniforme but at ISO 100, shouldn't it be creamy?
As I've said before, a cloudless, blue sky is one of the hardest images to reproduce without revealing a noise pattern, even at ISO 100. Shoot blue sky at ISO 100 on a D7000, and you'll see double that amount of noise. The real test is magic-hour blue sky, where the exposure is much lower on the curve. I tried looking at Admin's car photo on Flckr (which has some magic-hour blue sky near the top of the frame), but wasn't able to view the original-size image, and couldn't tell what ISO it was shot at.
Had went to Best Buy here and ordered a D800 this past Friday. They said it would be here this coming Friday. Well I got an e-mail this afternoon saying it was ready for pickup!! I went straight down and now have my D800! 5 days wait.
Hard to believe the big camera stores are having this much trouble getting them in for pre-orders made in FEB...
Charging the battery now!
Later,
Jeff
I just got an email from B&H asking if I really wanted a D800E. It explains the difference between the D800 and the D800E and offers me the chance to change my order to a D800.
Does this mean I am close to being sent my D800E? Probably not.
Ok gals&guys I took my d800 on a walk today, no perfect conditions at all but managed to get some snaps.
D800 + N300/4 AF-S + TC 17 - ISO 400, F8, 1/640, slightly cropped to 25mpx
D800 + N300/4 AF-S - ISO 400, F10, 1/1000, 1 to 1 - 100% crop
D800 + N300/4 AF-S - ISO 100, F4, 1/1250, 1 to 1 - 100% crop
Sorry if this has been discussed, but this is a long thread. Does anybody know how the IQ & ISO performance of the D800 in DX crop mode compare to the IQ & ISO performance of the D7000? The file sizes are nearly identical, but I was wondering about since I was going to use the D800 primarily in DX mode for the extra reach, whether or not it's worth a couple grand more. Thanks.
Pierre said:
So you are saying that what I see at 100% crop is not noise? For sure the sky should not be uniforme but at ISO 100, shouldn't it be creamy?To think of having to denoise at low ISO is definitely not something I was anticipating. Perhaps it still produces better images when cropping than the D700. I may be wrong I hope, but to me the 100% crop is really crappy point&shoot like.
I don't think that is noise. If you pixel peep with any file you'll see that repeating grain.
Think about it- you're blowing it up to huge proportions on your monitor. Your monitor has very high resolution, you'd never print a corner of the sky in real life.
I'm surprised how much detail there is in that shot of that stork (?). You can see the glint in the bird's eye and all the detail on the beak.
Even the other shot of the bird with the blue eyes- you can see the retina pattern and all the little feathers on the forehead.
And what's even cooler is that you can see the branching pattern of the yellow bill.
This is one seriously impressive piece of kit.
@PitchBlack - it's a tough question, I sold my d300s and decided to get the d800 as it gives me more flexibility, when I need I can use the whole part of the sensor, when I don't need the whole part I crop (either manually or through DX mode). at 5fps the camera is neither a cheetah nor a turtle. the thing I really like, and You don't get it in any of the dx bodies that are currently on the market is the new AF. d3s was fast, but it feels slow comparing to this. with N300/4+TC17 I got instant results, d3s was hunting with this settings.
@adamz. I'm a Canon shooter who has been in love with the 200-400/f4. I bought it and now need a camera for it. I shoot polo, which has 300 yard long fields so I pretty much need a cropped camera. I had ordered a D4 + extender but I canceled the order thinking I would get by with something used and cheap until the d300s replacement came out. A cropped camera is an optically perfect 1.5x extender without a loss of a stop of light. Now we hear the d400 may be full frame. The d800 just seems like the wrong camera for the job. Arrgh.
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