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  • Started 1 year ago by Gareth
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  1. Gareth

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    OK, so it's just announced, so lets discuss everything about it.

    Things I notice straight away:

    NO XQD CARD! (well at least I don't have to say it all the time now).
    Pop up flash. Damn, I was hoping this would be left off.

    This I am interested in:

    The new 91,000-pixel RGB Matrix Metering System, and skin tones.
    Live view af speeds.
    Low light focussing ability (same as D4?)
    and
    D800 vs D800E comparison pics.

    What is this carry on:

    "This unique alternative model will effectively enhance the resolution characteristics of the 36.3-megapixel CMOS sensor by cancelling the anti-aliasing properties of the OLPF inside the camera."

    Is that a bad translation of "we left the anti-aliasing filter off" or is it something else entirely?

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  2. Michael DeRose

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    I watched the promo video entitled, "Joy Ride" and im very impressed. I'm sure this camera is going to be a beast in this year's, "Great Camera Shootout" done by Zacuto.

    I wish I had the 3 grand. :/

    Again, Im very impressed about the low light ability at 36 mp.

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  3. zlik

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    So, who will be selling his D3s to get a D800 ??

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  4. Nikoner

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    Yes but, as someone pointed out on the main blog: the sample picture of the bride lifting veil @ 640 ISO is a bit noisy than expected.

    So as a sports photographer wanting to upgrade to FX with video, I am sitting on the fence for this one.

    D3s is 1k more for old technology, D4 is out of reach.

    And to top it my fav store Adorama (or even B&H) is not yet selling the D800 :-(

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  5. Wataru

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    O.K., I just preordered from B&H. Several have already ordered the D800E, but I was waiting to be able to get the D800.

    Any interest in forming a D800 user's group?

    Jack

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. Krevlin

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    I really hate the D800 because it's really starting to tempt me!

    I love my D7000 but hate the buffer limit and the stupid scene modes that I accidentally switch to when hanging the camera at my side.

    With the D800 I can have my 16MP, no scene modes and no freaking buffer wall.

    The only thing holding me back is I want a DX machine gun.

    Now if the D400 is a 24MP monster, I'll be really tempted to go D800 and then of course spend another $2000 on upgrading my computer rig. Sigh...

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  7. kanuck

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    Wow the big day many of us have been waiting for! zlik depending on your photography style I don't think a lot of people will be selling their D3s because of its low light ability. The D800 doesn't bring much to the table except for higher resolution of course. Fortunately for me this is what I need as I shoot mostly landscapes. I'll be trading in my D700 and put up some cash when D800 E arrives here in South Korea probably late or mid March. As Wataru states, anyone interested in the D800 over the D800E?

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  8. Wataru

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    I'm looking at the specs and the D800 uses the EN-EL15 battery. The is the same as the D7000 (and the V1). It also uses the ML-L3 wireless remote. Great news, as there is some compatibility with stuff I already have.

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  9. zlik

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    Well, I usually shoot events in PJ-style, which is why I bought the D3s. But I am starting to do some architecture and studio photography lately, and the D800 is really tempting. Whenever I need high ISO, even if the D3s has a slight edge, I don't necesseraly need high MP. That means that I am waiting to see what happens with ISO 3200 from the D800 downscaled to 8mp. If it looks great and useable for concerts and weddings (I don't do sports), the the "small" disadvantage of the D800 vs D3s in high ISO will not be significant to counter-weight the huge advantages of the D800 at low ISOs.

    If I go from D3s to D800, I will start to do more architecture. I can sell my D3s for at least 4000$ and end up with a landscape and studio monster AND 1000$ to spend on a new lens.

    The D800 will be the ultimate tool to test lenses !

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  10. zlik

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    PS: whoever finds links to D800 samples at high ISO (we have plenty of 100-200 iso samples on the nikon page), please post them here !!

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  11. Gareth

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    well after some pixel peeping of the aforementioned samples

    http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d800/sample01.htm
    http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d800/sample02.htm

    I have to say they are impressive. As good as I had hoped for, well, I guess I shouldn't have hoped for MF clarity and dynamic range...

    But, they do seem to resolve at about the same as I would expect from a DSLR, which is mighty impressive given I'll be able to print them 24.533" by 16.373" at 300ppi!

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  12. sevencrossing

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    The advanced focusing is a must have for me

    Plus the the bragging rights of having have more megawhotnots than my Canon friend

    not too keen I having to pay £280 for NOT having something (AA filter)

    but I will peorder a 800 E

    (links to sample not woring for me)

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  13. Gareth

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    lol, i think nikon maxed their bandwidth.

    the D800E appears mildly sharper, but hard to tell without a direct comparison.

    still interested to know if the aa filter was removed, or something else was done (see quoted first post in this thread).

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  14. spraynpray

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    What will you do to remove aliasing when it occurs in your images seven?

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  15. sevencrossing

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    spraynpray said:
    What will you do to remove aliasing when it occurs in your images seven?

    LR4 has a Moire removal tool
    I think think NX2 and Aperture have, or will have, this too

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  16. donaldejose

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    The images look really great. But I want to see what ISO 6400 images look like. All the samples are low ISO. Is there a reason for that? The D4 samples included some 3200 and 6400 ISO photos. Is Nikon hiding (or at least not promoting) something? We will see. I sure would like to order one if it can produce clean high ISOs. I don't want to stay at or below ISO 640 as the sample images do.

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  17. zlik

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    donaldejose said:
    The images look really great. But I want to see what ISO 6400 images look like. All the samples are low ISO. Is there a reason for that? The D4 samples included some 3200 and 6400 ISO photos. Is Nikon hiding (or at least not promoting) something? We will see. I sure would like to order one if it can produce clean high ISOs. I don't want to stay at or below ISO 640 as the sample images do.

    That's exactly what I'm waiting to see too. As I said, if the D800 looks great at 3200 iso when downsampled to 12mp, I will sell my D3s for 4k$ and buy a D800 for 3k$ and spend the 1k$ difference on upgrading my system (more ram, more HDDs, more memory cards).

    For events, when I don't need 36mp, I will make a script to batch convert all my 36mp NEFs to 12mp 16bit TIFFs or DNGs (with slight noise reduction applied at 36mp) before starting to work with them in LR.

    And when I need high MP, or high dynamic range, or every other advantage of the D800, I won't mind working with 36mp NEFs.
    The D800 will be amazing for architecture and studio work.

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  18. kenadams

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    Nikon Germany website says the low volume shutter sound is excellent for low profile picture taking...

    Hilarious, it's not like the brick you're holding is exactly inconspicuous, right?

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  19. scoobysmak

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    Well I will say I like the D800 specs for my use, I understand its not for everyone. I will say I hope it has at least the ISO specs of the D7000

    Here would be my wishes though for any improvements:
    1. Had 6 fps FX and 8-9 fps DX, hey I can't have it all but wishfull thinking
    2. The veiwfinder will "expand" and not just blank out when in DX mode, 5:4, and the others
    3. The onboard flash does not get in the way of PC-E lenses (I am not sure if anyone knows this yet besides Nikon)
    4. Hope it still has the 10-pin connector for my shutter release (I am pretty sure it does but just did not see it)
    5. Probably something else but can't think of any
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    6. Be able to use the WT-5

    For my needs I really like it but I probably will not get one until I can "see" the difference between the D800 and D800E. For instance if the D800E only has real problems in the DX mode then I have to choose how I will deploy it.

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  20. Rummer

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    I preordered a D800E this afternoon in Tokyo. But a few comments online about the benefits/disadvantages of not having the AA filter is making me have second thoughts. This will be my first FX camera (coming from D7000), and I'm really starting to get into DSLR video. One site seems to suggest that the lack of AA filter for video could be pretty bad. Another site states that the differences between the two cameras in terms of real world sharpness would be miniscule.

    Who knows, we'll have to see until we have people testing production versions of both.

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  21. scoobysmak

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    Well since I have a D700 I am not in a hurry, either way you probably can't go wrong.

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  22. zlik

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    Rummer said:
    I preordered a D800E this afternoon in Tokyo. But a few comments online about the benefits/disadvantages of not having the AA filter is making me have second thoughts. This will be my first FX camera (coming from D7000), and I'm really starting to get into DSLR video. One site seems to suggest that the lack of AA filter for video could be pretty bad. Another site states that the differences between the two cameras in terms of real world sharpness would be miniscule.

    Who knows, we'll have to see until we have people testing production versions of both.

    If it's your first FX and you are not 100% sure about the advantages/disadvantages of not having the optical low pass filter, you should probably go with the D800. Unless you are selling huge prints regulary and know you won't suffer from moiré/aliasing problems (or can avoid them), the D800E is not a good idea. Moiré is NOT easily dealt with in post. You can reduce color moiré but you won't be able to reduce pattern problems.

    It is important to understand that at normal print sizes (until 20 inches wide!), you won't see any difference in sharpness between the D800 and the D800E. The only thing you will see, even at small sizes, is the moiré problems of the D800.

    The D800E is mostly intended for landscape photographes and people who know they will need even more resolution than the D800 (which, seriously, is already much more than any DSLR to date). If you take pictures of human-made objects (buildings and cloths, for example), there is FAR more chances that you will be bothered with moiré rather than gaining little sharpness at pixel level.

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  23. tcole1983

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    Well since the D800 will probably be outdated before I could even think about affording one of them then I will have to say I am not that excited. Actually I looked at the samples and I wasn't totally overwhelmed. They looked pretty good, but unless you want to make huge prints I didn't see much "better" images than any other camera that is already available.

    I am more excited for a pro-level D300s replacement (if it is DX). Price might actually be in line with something I could afford and would be worth an upgrade from my D5000.

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  24. Rummer

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    Zlik, Thanks for your great advice! I think I'm going to change my preorder to a D800 tomorrow.

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  25. spraynpray

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    What he said. Yes.

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