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"Most exciting.....DSLR(s)...coming"

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  • Started 3 years ago by NikoDoby
  • Latest reply from heartyfisher
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  1. Technologic

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    @heartyfisher

    I belive that you are refering to the Bayer CFA (color filter array) when you say that all cameras interpolate and while thats true, that is for color. Nikon uses a different color fiter array from the standard Bayer Method. Nikons system emulates a 3CCD system on a single chip. They use Microlenses over their photoreceptors. The wavelengths of light are seperated to their specific photorecptors red, green, and blue. This system also reduces the loss of light compared to the bayer CFA.

    Correcting my previous statment. The EXR has elminated interpolation in some modes but does sometimes use it for others(rare).

    "In high DR mode it groups pairs of sensors and uses one of each pair in a higher ISO mode in effect taking 2 x 6MP pictures at once one at higher ISO and the other at a lower ISO and then
    doing a HDR merge of the result to get the HDR images at 6MP".

    The Super CCD EXR doesnt change ISO modes. Half the pixels are read out during exposure, and the remaining half at the end of the exposure. Compared to using low-sensitivity photodiodes in their
    older designs which was used to reading data off the sensor twice.

    I am not saying the EXR sensor is not a good sensor. I just hate that Fuji has been putting out their unfinished SuperCCD sensor and basiclly beta testing it on the public since 1999. The SuperCCD HR and SuperCCD SR kindof pissed me off. I guess Fuji just left a bad taste in my mouth so to speak.

    In the end I am more excited about Sony's 'Exmor R' back-illuminated CMOS and would rather see this chip in next generation nikons over fuji's CCD chip.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  2. NSXType-R

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    NikoDoby, stop BSing, you'll confuse the newbs. :D

    And at 22 frames per second, it's nearly a video camera. Have fun editing that. :D

    HeartyFisher, what do you mean by the 2.5 frames on the D300? I thought it did way more than that, more like 5? Maybe that's on 14 bit?

    And honestly, let Canon throw its best at Nikon. Competition FTW. What would we do without Canon and Sony? :D

    Posted 3 years ago #
  3. bmxdad

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    22 frames per second would be fun, but NSXType-R you are right that would be lots of fun editing. However I have taken a few wild BMX crashes at 8 frames per second and there are lots of action missing between frames.

    I don't think Canon is ready to sell a camera like this yet and if they do it would be a one of their Pro models and prized that way also. I do think that they will make a camera like it, just a matter of time

    Pete

    Posted 3 years ago #
  4. NSXType-R

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    I think NikoDoby had a lot of sarcasm and joking that you missed.

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  5. NikoDoby

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    What me? Joke around?! I never do that :^)

    The latest is that the above specs could be the next 1DMkIV which won't be announced until Feb2010. So its not the 7D, but who knows at this point but canon and I'm sure Nikon.

    The Sony a850 is getting a lot of attention but the canon guys are very nervous about what the 7D will bring to the table. They realize Nikon's been giving them a good beating lately :^)

    So another day and another round of 7D specs for you to ponder. From a canon display poster in Chinese:

    canon 7D
    18Mp
    dual digi4 processors
    ISO 6400
    19 point AF
    HD Movie mode
    horizon display (looks like their copying Nikon on this one)
    100% viewfinder

    Posted 3 years ago #
  6. NikoDoby

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    Price for the 7D is now rumored to be $1,699US which doesn't make sense to me but we will see in about two to three days. maybe

    Posted 3 years ago #
  7. adamz

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    NSX - hearty was referring to fps in 14bit raw

    Niko - I doubt it's gonna be 18mpx, but we will see soon

    Posted 3 years ago #
  8. NikoDoby

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    Canon 7D photo and specs:

    EDIT: I'm moving this to a new post since this one is already getting full and kinda off topic.

    http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=528#post-6991

    Posted 3 years ago #
  9. heartyfisher

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    @ technologic : Nikon uses the sensor from sony. Although what you describe has been patented by nikon (3 colours in a single pixel, like the faveon) it has not yet been implemented. would be interesting if they can figure out how to manufacture the 3 types of micro prism of different material in each pixel. Would be great once they can get that chip built would boost the high iso capability by another 2 EV !! and when the black silicone chips( another 6-7 ev) get rolling we will be able to take moonlight photos indoors with the lights off! thats ISO 6400000 ! We will be seeing it in say 3-7 years time. The tech is already here it only needs to be manufactured and the legal bits sorted out! we will probably need a special sensor cover plate that changes to a +6 ND filter other wise we wont be able to take normal photos !! LOL!

    In terms of the fuji superccd being unfinished.. dunno.. seems as finished as any of the other sensors we have.. technology advances at a really fast pace. as soon as one product is being shipped its already obsolete. consider the black silicone example. we know we can have iso 1600000 now just swap in the black silicone into the the current chips! Why are we using all these obsolete half baked sensor technologies! No we all need to make design compromises when we create a product. once a technology is chosen it will be wrapped in a shell(frozen in tech time) and made into a product all other advances must be ignored or else it will never get to market. its just the way it needs to be done.

    Posted 3 years ago #

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