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"Most exciting.....DSLR(s)...coming"

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  • Started 3 years ago by NikoDoby
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  1. NikoDoby

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    Looks like Sony and canon are about to announce new "affordable" full-frame cameras. (maybe)

    Could canon be targeting the D700 and D300 with one camera? Or is this new model a 5DmkII replacement already?

    Sony's yet to be official a850 looks like it could come in at $2000US body only. (maybe)

    What say you wise and all knowing audience?

    Sony's announcement of a announcement:
    http://photorumors.com/2009/08/19/sony-%E2%80%9Dmost-exiting-new-%CE%B1-series-dslr-is-coming/

    canon 7D picture leak: (maybe)
    http://photorumors.com/2009/08/19/canon-eos-7d/

    Posted 3 years ago #
  2. NSXType-R

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    WE DON'T CARE ABOUT SONY!!!!

    :D

    That's why we're on nikonrumors.com.

    :D

    Posted 3 years ago #
  3. Willis

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    Don't tell that to the CameraRumors people :)

    In all seriousness, we can't be far off from the first FX consumer body. Not ALL rich people are good photographers you know. Some would welcome full Auto in a $1600 camera.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  4. NikoDoby

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    NSX haven't we been through this before? Whatever the other company's throw at Nikon it WILL effect what Nikon makes for us! OR rather what they should make.

    I remember when Nikon said DX was all anyone ever needed and they had no reason nor were they going to make any full-frame cameras !!! I didn't hear you yelling then, well I didn't know you then so I guess it doesn't matter but you get my point.

    Keep your enemies close my friends ! :^)

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  5. Gentoo

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    Sony is off the radar as far as I'm concerned. There's a reason that Nikon and Canon control like 85% of the DSLR market just between them.

    Any release from Canon is what I'll be watching. Canon has been green with envy ever since Nikon got the upper hand with the release of the D40 and D300 lines in particular. The D40 was a more affordable alternative to the Rebels and therefore stole he entry level shopper and the D300 stole the the semi pros and most importantly is stealing the wildlife shooters, a market Canon has always had in their pockets until recently.

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  6. NikoDoby

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    Hey Willis I'm offended by your post :^) I know some pretty bad poor photographers. Well they're poor after buying canon 1Ds and 5D's and mkIIn's and...... well they were EMOTIONALLY poor to begin with so.... :^)

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  7. NSXType-R

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    NikoDoby, of course I was kidding. What Sony releases is super important to Nikon because Nikon uses their sensors, modified in their own way of course. I know their relationship goes way back- the D40 6 megapixel sensor goes back to the D50, the D70, and the D100 I think, which were Sony sensors.

    So yes, I do care about what other camera manufacturers make. Although I don't really care to an extent, as long as Nikon makes products that make everyone happy (me included), that's all that matters to you and I, right? :D

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  8. NikoDoby

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    Ha ha I forgive you NSX.

    Gentoo don't be such a Sony hater !!! I don't hear you complaining about their sensors being in YOUR cameras :^) but your right about canon wanting their market share back from Nikon.

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  9. ted2001

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    I've always thought the differences in camera bodies was less important than in the line of lenses available. That's the reason I bought Nikon back in the 1970's. They still have the best overall selection of lenses.

    The only other lines of lenses that really excel are Leica (SLR & M), Contax G2 and Canon (SLR).

    I'm glad Nikon has always made bodies that are generally excellent in terms of reliability and durability, albeit for a higher price. The feature sets available were rarely the largest, but always seemed to be skewed towards professional photographers.

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  10. NikoDoby

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    Back at the height of my film days I used mainly *gasp* canons. I still use some of my canon gear....it's holding up my breakfast table :^)

    I was very upset canon kept changing their lens mounts! My canon lenses were useless when I wanted to go digital. Since I had to buy everything new again I pretty much went exclusively to the darkside ever since. So Lens choice is pretty important to me :^)

    That's why I'm holding off on purchasing any more DX lenses until I know what's going to happen with future full frames. Not that I'm worried Nikon's going to burn me, but I want to have flexibility for future models.

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  11. Gentoo

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    Niko:Gentoo don't be such a Sony hater !!! I don't hear you complaining about their sensors being in YOUR cameras :^) but your right about canon wanting their market share back from Nikon."

    Of course I not complaining. Nikon is beating Sony while using Sony's own parts. I think that's brilliant!

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  12. Gentoo

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    "was very upset canon kept changing their lens mounts! My canon lenses were useless when I wanted to go digital. Since I had to buy everything new again I pretty much went exclusively to the darkside ever since. So Lens choice is pretty important to me :^)"

    This is exactly why, back in 2006 I chose the D40 and not the Rebel XTi. As a mainly wildlife shooter, Canon is what I was looking at seriously. However not only was the D40 more affordable, I learned about Canon's erratic lens compatibility issues.

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  13. ted2001

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    The brilliance of some of my Nikon lenses from the 1970's are why I got a D90. They fit, they work, but they don't meter. I'm lazy, so I'm getting a D300s soon, maybe an FX body in the future as they get smaller and less expensive.

    I got the Nikon lenses in the first place when Minolta obsoleted the lens mount from the SRT-101. Nikon has never made me regret my loyalty. They updated lenses to AIs when that became a new standard of theirs. Too bad they can't add AF and VR, now that would be a remarkable accomplishment! (just kidding on that last wish)

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  14. NikoDoby

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    "Nikon has never made me regret my loyalty."

    Let's hope they never do..... ;^)

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  15. ted2001

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    Indeed

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  16. heartyfisher

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    Ted. I am sure they can add vr.. they already have added AF.. You can buy a TC that AF .. Its no longer being built but you can still get it from time to time off ebay. Wouldnt that be great .. NIKON make a TC14 VR AF !!

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  17. QuadraPixel

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    I think the A850 and 7D are going to be approx $2700

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  18. NikoDoby

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    That price just doesn't make any sense....unless the 7D turns out to be the 5DmkII replacement !!! The 5DmkII is $2700US right now. So why would canon put another FF at the same price point if it's not going to replace the 5DmkII? Do you think street price and body only will bring it down $500-700?

    Then again it might be a cheaper APS-H sensor like on the 1DmkIII with lots of features the 5DmkII doesn't have, mainly 5fps and better auto focus. That makes more sense to me for the price. I think this is the most likely scenario. Very interesting either way.

    I guess well know for sure soon enough.

    Here's a top pic of the supposed 7D (thanks Jorge)
    http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/439/2009082096b36ff2249452a.jpg

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  19. adamz

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    Niko - "...Whatever the other company's throw at Nikon it WILL effect what Nikon makes for us..." - unfortunately so far I can't say this about prices

    gentoo - "...D300 stole the the semi pros and most importantly is stealing the wildlife shooters..." - indeed D300 is great for wildlife, but couple days ago I've checked prices of canon wildlife lenses (300/2.8 and up) and... I got so pissed, usually for the same price You get either one stop of light or 100mm

    QuadraPixel - no way a850 will cost $2700, to hit the market they need to differentiate it more from a900, so I guess it's gonna be somehere between $1700-$2800, so around $2250, same with canon

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  20. Gentoo

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    adamz, you're right but the canon lenses are getting closer in price to the Nikons. This in combination with Nikon really stepping up their game has led many to jump ship to Nikon. Trust me, most birders are loyal Canon shooters but the talk on birdfurom has even mentioned those who have come over to our side. For wildlife shooters, Canon does still have a better selection of lenses.

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  21. zoetmb

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    >>>I've always thought the differences in camera bodies was less important than in the line of lenses available. That's the reason I bought Nikon back in the 1970's. They still have the best overall selection of lenses.

    That was true for film cameras because in the end, what did the camera do? It just controlled exposure. While a high-end camera might be quieter, have less vibration and be more robust, as long as the film travelled flat across the film plane, a N65 was as good as a F5 or F6, especially when used in manual mode.

    But in the digital age, the sensor makes a big difference and there's an awful lot of processing that goes on in the camera. In addition, a typical digital camera has hundreds of different settings that can affect the way a digital photo looks. So I think bodies are far more important than they used to be.

    And for the record, I think most people would claim that Canon has a better selection of lenses although Nikon is reputed to have better quality lenses. The numbers aren't that different anymore - Nikon has 56 and Canon has 63 in their current lines, but Canon has lots of high-end f4 lenses, which Nikon doesn't have. And everyone is waiting for Nikon to update their FX prime line, which were mostly released in the mid-90s. IMO, the number of lenses makes no difference because how many lenses is one person going to own anyway? In spite of what you might believe by reading sites like this one, the industry average is only 1.68 lenses shipped for each body shipped. And Nikon's average is even lower: it was 1.47 for their first fiscal quarter of this year. (Last year it was 1.42).

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  22. Gentoo

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    "the number of lenses makes no difference because how many lenses is one person going to own anyway?"

    I see where you've coming from but that's a gross oversimplification. if one company has one or two lenses another deson't, that can make a difference in their market share. Canon for example has a 400mm5.6 that Nikon lacks. Something as simply as that can make a difference in how many wildlife shooters a company will attract.

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  23. adamz

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    gentoo - I know Your pain, as I would love to have 400/f5.6 but to be honest, we are in minority - most people here, and most Nikon users don't care about long end, moreover, for most of them 200mm is a super tele (please all of You who think like that, don't take it personal). I don't mind FX primes, but the truth is that there are great lenses in the small range, maybe not primes, but still You guys have an option... and OTOH there's no single, affordable lens once You cross the 300mm border (apart from the slow 80-400 zoom)

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  24. Willis

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    Adamz - Better start saving for that field scope attachment (and the scope of course).

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  25. adamz

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    willis - the problem with digiscoping is the f stop, as on the long end they tend to be very dark, not to mention lack of AF

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