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  1. JY

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    What happened to the User Mode like U1 U2? Did I miss it somewhere or it is just not in the D4

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    It is good to see D4 cheaper than 1Dx but at the same time it is a better camera.

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  3. JY

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    rexlint said:
    I spent 2 weeks with the camera this fall shooting a behind the scenes video of Corey Rich creating the roll out video for the new D4 (search Nikon WHY d4 on vimeo)
    The camera is amazing. Tons of great features for the video pros looking for a high end DLSR camera that takes the medium to the next level. Go hit up the discussion on vimeo to see what people are saying about the cam.

    Couple of great features for me.
    1. Realtime audio meters
    2. You can move between full frame and crop frame for extra punch with your glass without changing you glass
    3. 720 60p on a full frame sensor, sweet! Now I don't have to drag a 7d 5d kit around to get my low light and action. All in one body.
    4. Interface and button locations totally intuitive and human factor engineered. The camera feels good in the hands.
    5. NIKON GLASS...

    I don't know crap about video, but having watched it couple times and read all the comments in vimeo it looks like nikon has put up a beast in the video department.

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  4. SkintBrit

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    sevencrossing said:
    WOW it was £3999 at Calumet yesterday

    No it did not pre order one :{ every one told me to wait for the price to drop

    beyond my budget now

    may be Jacobs will be some deals at Focus on Imaging

    They were? When I looked yesterday they weren't displaying a price, now everyone is asking the same price £4799.

    @Pymes75 : That's interesting, I had forgotten that the price you see in US stores is not the price you pay (always drives me insane). Are you saying if you buy online from B&H, Adorama etc that you have to pay tax on top of the $6000?

    @JY : The D3 series doesn't have a U1/U2 button either. It does have a menu selectable A/B/C programable shooting bank, but not a dial like on some cameras.

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  5. donaldejose

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    At this site you can see the D4 performance at different ISOs.

    Mover cursor to right side of photo, click on the i in the blue box to get the photo info

    http://www.bezergheanu.com/TestNikon/Nikon-D4Nikkor-8518-af-s/20915871_LhHTdj#!i=1661827062&k=7MPxKtc

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    @SkinBrit Yeah, d700 have the same shooting bank like you said. But i thought the U1/U2 is a better and quicker option to customise and recall different setting of the camera. I thought it was the reason they got rid off the AF mode at the back of the camera. Anyway, i don't see it as a big deal, just note it and kind of curious why it doesn't have this when the d7000 has it.

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  7. Pymes75

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    SkintBrit said:
    @Pymes75 : That's interesting, I had forgotten that the price you see in US stores is not the price you pay (always drives me insane). Are you saying if you buy online from B&H, Adorama etc that you have to pay tax on top of the $6000?

    Yep. Anytime you import items greater than £15, you are liable to pay VAT as if you bought it in this country. It is up to you to declare this to HMRC and pay them what you owe... Whether you do or not is more than likely up to you, but I wouldn't risk it for something this obviously valuable!

    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/vat/managing/international/imports/importing.htm

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    SkintBrit said:
    They were? When I looked yesterday they weren't displaying a price, now everyone is asking the same price £4799.

    Yes would have been early evening

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    SkintBrit said:
    @Pymes75 : That's interesting, I had forgotten that the price you see in US stores is not the price you pay (always drives me insane). Are you saying if you buy online from B&H, Adorama etc that you have to pay tax on top of the $6000?

    It's slightly more complicated than that. Every county (of which there are many per state) can set its own sales tax rate equal to or above some minimum set by the state, and as a result, in many states, there is no sales tax on purchases from out-of-state. This is the primary reason that Amazon is driving a lot of brick-and-mortars out of business, and the reason that a lot of states are trying to push legislation to be able to charge sales tax from out-of-state, but it's a legislative nightmare, both because of arguments over what legal powers states have versus the federal government, and because the system in its current form is so heavily fragmented.

    At the moment, if I (in California) go to my local photography store and buy a camera, I pay 8.75% tax on top of the list price (varies from 8.25% to 9.75% depending on county). If I travel to New York and walk in to B&H, I pay 8.875% on top of the list price. If I buy from B&H online, I pay no sales tax; just shipping. Three guesses which I do most often.

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  10. golf007sd

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    The whole argument for having VAT (Value Added Tax) is all rubbish. There should not be tax on making something better...it defeats the root purpose conducting commerce.

    donaldejose said:
    At this site you can see the D4 performance at different ISOs.

    Mover cursor to right side of photo, click on the i in the blue box to get the photo info

    http://www.bezergheanu.com/TestNikon/Nikon-D4Nikkor-8518-af-s/20915871_LhHTdj#!i=1661827062&k=7MPxKtc

    Thanks for sharing. Being able to download the original file and seeing the details up-close on my screen is just what I was looking for. :)

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    Positron said:
    It's slightly more complicated than that. Every county (of which there are many per state) can set its own sales tax rate equal to or above some minimum set by the state, and as a result, in many states, there is no sales tax on purchases from out-of-state. This is the primary reason that Amazon is driving a lot of brick-and-mortars out of business, and the reason that a lot of states are trying to push legislation to be able to charge sales tax from out-of-state, but it's a legislative nightmare, both because of arguments over what legal powers states have versus the federal government, and because the system in its current form is so heavily fragmented.

    At the moment, if I (in California) go to my local photography store and buy a camera, I pay 8.75% tax on top of the list price (varies from 8.25% to 9.75% depending on county). If I travel to New York and walk in to B&H, I pay 8.875% on top of the list price. If I buy from B&H online, I pay no sales tax; just shipping. Three guesses which I do most often.

    And if you buy from Adorama you don't pay TAX or Shipping, just another option.

    And to all the folks waiting for prices to drop, don't hold your breath! I have a D3 and a D3x, the D3 is out of production but still worth several thousand $$$ at Adorama. My D3x was $7,999.99 last Christmas (when I ordered from Adorama) and it's STILL $7,999!!

    Where's the fast and large drop in prices, anyone??

    As soon as the Used camera dept opens tomorrow (SUnday) I'll be checking out how much I can get in Trade-In from Adorama.

    I love both the D3 & 3x but I found this past year that I really don't need 24.5 megapixels LOL. The D4 is a VAST improvement over my D3 and a heck of a lot faster than my D3x.

    Good luck to all "first responders" LOL.

    Alan

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    I saw a preview video and indeed it seems like the big advances are on the video front although things like the wireless control and ethernet port is applicable to both. It is indeed a beast..even as someone new to DSLR cameras can tell...

    JY said:
    I don't know crap about video, but having watched it couple times and read all the comments in vimeo it looks like nikon has put up a beast in the video department.

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    JY said:
    @SkinBrit Yeah, d700 have the same shooting bank like you said. But i thought the U1/U2 is a better and quicker option to customise and recall different setting of the camera. I thought it was the reason they got rid off the AF mode at the back of the camera. Anyway, i don't see it as a big deal, just note it and kind of curious why it doesn't have this when the d7000 has it.

    You can of course program the function button on the front of the camera to toggle between shooting banks, so I guess it's as good as?

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    Pymes75 said:
    Yep. Anytime you import items greater than £15, you are liable to pay VAT as if you bought it in this country. It is up to you to declare this to HMRC and pay them what you owe... Whether you do or not is more than likely up to you, but I wouldn't risk it for something this obviously valuable!

    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/vat/managing/international/imports/importing.htm

    No sorry you miss understood me, I meant if a US resident buys a D4 at $6000 from an American internet based company, do they pay tax on top?********Sorry please ignore this question, I hadn't read Positrons reply at the time of posting.******* Thanks for explaining Positron. Basically the reason why it's £900 cheaper in the US, is because we get tucked up by her majesties government to the tune of 20%, where US buyers don't.

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    golf007sd said:
    The whole argument for having VAT (Value Added Tax) is all rubbish. There should not be tax on making something better...

    Entirely off-topic, and not wanting to split hairs or get into a political debate or anything so mundane, but for consumers at least, VAT replaced sales tax when it was introduced in the UK.

    The notional concept of a "value added" taxation is indeed a con trick. It is only the retailer who charges the consumer the VAT and then simply passes the amount collected from the poor saps who have to buy retail back to the collection authorities. In the UK at least, the amount of value added at any stage in the process is irrelevant (apart from some exemptions) as the rate of value taxed does not vary from item to item but is a blanket fixed rate. If I am a company not selling retail but to another company I can (or at least in the 1990's when I was indeed a company in the UK I used to be able to), claim back all the VAT charged to me by everyone else. It SHOULD have been a zero sum game for me as a company, but of course, taxation never is.

    Of course for us in the US, sales tax is usually only about a third of the latest level of VAT in the UK... all of which which is quite another discussion. Lets get back on topic... If all my 2012 plans come 100% to fruition, a D4 will certainly be on my personal Christmas list and as a US resident in a different state to the infamous Adorama or B&H, because of the lack of enforcement of collection laws, I'd not pay any sales tax at all. Sweet.

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    Pymes75 said:
    Good news is that WEX, Jessops and Amazon sellers are usually locked in an online pricing battle, so I would expect prices to rapidly fall once the camera is available in sufficient quantities.

    Pricing wars are over - Nikon has enforced it's pricing policies and dropped many vendors that price gouged or deeply discounted items. Anyone posting ridiculous prices either way, they do not have the gear or are not an authorized dealer. The price is the price +/- a couple of hundred $ and it won't drop for 18 months.

    I hope we get off the Tax thing. That debate doesn't belong here.

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    One of the reasons it great to not be in the USA. One dealer in Canada is taking pre orders $200 under MSRP already.

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    jonnyapple said:
    ...So, is anyone planning on getting one?

    I will definitely be getting something this year. I find the D4 specs very attractive, resolution between the D3s and the D3x with ISO equal or better than the D3s and good video. I will definitely have to do my homework and consider the other options first. Choosing will be difficult, especially with the two flavors of the D800 comming soon and even the Canon offering.

    My wife is currently in China and will be in Japan in about a month or so, question: what is the sale tax in Japan and would the guarantee still be valid in Canada?

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    Pierre said:
    My wife is currently in China and will be in Japan in about a month or so, question: what is the sale tax in Japan and would the guarantee still be valid in Canada?

    You should be able to get a "tax rebate" or something similar where you get the tax back. You may be able to have them ship it and remove the tax. Duty fees in CAN I'm not sure about. I'm sure there is a way.

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  20. SquamishPhoto

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    I'd get her to grab you some used glass if she's going to be in Japan. The volume of mint used glass available there is staggering.

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  21. PB PM

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    Pierre, Nikon Canada does not repair cameras and glass not sold in Canada (anything else is considered grey market). Something else to keep in mind, you'll be charged duty and provincial sales tax when the camera enters the country as well.

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    Yes, buy used in japan, new is not that cheap, though things are always in stock.

    have a look at map camera in tokyo or yaotomi in osaka.

    also yahoo auctions. auctions.yahoo.co.jp

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    With the D4 coming out I was just checking out the price of a used D3 and found they are going right around $3,200 on keh. Once the D4 is out and we get closer to April and May would it be silly to think we could see the price of a used D3 around $2,500-2,800 in that range. If so is the D3 worth the pick up or is it still "out of date" to be using as a pro photographer?

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  24. SkintBrit

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    I think a reasonably priced D3 would make a fine addition to any pro's bag.

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  25. aesnakes

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    a used d3s here in vancouver is going or 2900,3300,4000...if i didnt need the 1080p uncompressed video it would be a no-brainer

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