Nikon D700 Blooming/Banding [Picture attached]

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Abhinav

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Camera Nikon D700
Exposure 0.01 sec (1/100)
Aperture f/2.5
Focal Length 50 mm
Focal Length 50.4 mm
ISO Speed 3200

Original Image

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7013/6607606033_a7ea4f0a31_o.jpg

I'm pretty disappointed with it because I took Six shots of the same place and had similar results :|.I never had such problem with D90 even at iso's like 3200 .

this mean it is almost impossible to do shots like this with D700 :((

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ilovewalkman/6303241504/in/photostream

Posted 1 year ago #
enigmeow

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Strange.. mine does not do that. Try using raw? Sensor defective?

Posted 1 year ago #
Correlli

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Same thing here, I also cannot see these effects on my camera. Did you try to reset the camera to factory defaults?

Posted 1 year ago #
SkintBrit

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The only time I've seen that from mine was when shooting at Hi2. Something not right there.

Posted 1 year ago #
PB PM

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I'll join the ranks of those with D700s that do not see this issue.

Posted 1 year ago #
Regulator75

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Geez man, that looks harsh.

Posted 1 year ago #
Abhinav

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Nikon Photo net too has reported about it under particular situation .I don't know how I missed this part while doing research on D700 problems .

http://photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00TTdv

SO,I'm back to square one using D90 again for hand held night photography .Whole point of buying D700 seems lost now .I'm almost gutted with a new trip coming to White Rann of Kutch in just 5 days :(.I don't even want to imagine what will happen, if I point it towards bright moon at high iso .

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On the side note those with D700 ,can you guys post a picture by pointing your camera towards bright led light or CFL light [Horizontal and Vertical both] .I will post my tests too in that regard.

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Above picture was shot in 12bit raw compressed later converted to jpeg using Capture NX .I will try out 14bit uncompressed ,but I don't think that will do any good either .

Posted 1 year ago #
sevencrossing

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I also have a D700 never had anything like this if you bought it new I would take it back

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PB PM

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If this doesn't cause the banding (I also pulled the shadows back a stop), I don't know what would.

ISO3200, 1/4000s 50mm F2.8 (14bit RAW Compressed)

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Pierre

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I have taken a lot of night & low light shots and never saw anything like this. I would think your D700 is defective, try another one.

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Abhinav

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I will be visiting nikon tomorrow .

anyway one more example and nef file posted too

Another Example :I took this today .

NEF file http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VEJPJIFH
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Exposure 0.01 sec (1/100) Aperture f/2.5 Focal Length 50 mm Focal Length 50.4 mm ISO Speed 3200

@thanks Robert :

Posted 1 year ago #
DutchNikon

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Question :

Do you have any type of filter in front of your lens mounted in this picture ?

This does not look like real "real banding" to me, cause all "stripes" seem to originate from the separate lightsources between the pillars,
Banding is mostly an efect best seen when using a polarizer on a wide angle lens when framing a clear blue sky, and is not caused by separate light sources ...

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NSXType-R

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Are you sure you have your setting straight? Is noise reduction off?

Not sure what else I can say, I don't have any experience with these cameras.

Did you look through the manual?

Posted 1 year ago #
satellites

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it's more flaring than anything...i'm with dutchnikon...what is the lens/filter combination used?

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Abhinav

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NO,I'm not using filters of any kind and all the setting were kept to minimum .Flaring is different from what you see above .

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PB PM

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Still seems strange. Are these exposures as is from the camera (meaning you didn't pull the shadows out in post)? Never seen anything like that from my D700, unless I try to pull too much detail from the shadows.

I see hints of banding like that at ISO6400 (see image below, out of camera jpeg with no NR), but it only becomes apparent when you try to pull a lot of data from the shadow areas (more than two stops).

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jerl

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It looks like a sensor issue, so I'd take it back to have it looked at if you can. One reason why it looks like flaring is that the lines all line up with bright light sources- but my guess is that the bright lights are affecting the data conversion since it is constant straight line across the entire image.

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Abhinav

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@PB PM: that's a beautiful image :)

yes ,second image is posted without any processing done on it .[nef->jpeg using capture nx 2]

between did you check the nef file I posted ?

@jerl :it seems like that to me as well .Something wrong with the image processing.

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That is jpeg artifacts that are pulled out. Push most dark high iso image to the limit on the dark shadows you will see banding start to appear. If you notice that the light areas the banding is basically not there. With white light (more blue tint) the banding always seem to appear more often. The exposure is high for that dark of a scene. The bottom image has a lower exposure for the setting for sure.

Part of the issue is "Gain Control-High gain up" = D-lighting @ high. - I have seen a lot of banding issues when you have the Active D-lighting set to high and shooting at high ISOs. If you set it to off or low it will perform better. Every camera model is different especially with the software inside the body. Don't assume the same settings work across bodies if that is how you have your D90 set that way. Check everything from contrast to saturation setting and try different settings to see what works best for that body.

If that doesn't help, then servicing it will be the last option left.

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PB PM

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Abhinav said:
between did you check the nef file I posted ?

I've looked at the NEF, and it looks just like what you posted. What were you hoping we would see by posting the NEF? I don't use Nikon software for RAW editing, so i cannot see the settings you used anyway.

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Gabbb

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I have something similar on my d3100, when I have my Y467 chinese flash attached to it and I use iso 1600+ combined with an f8+ apperture. It makes no sense, but it really only happens then... (rarely an issue, but i can replicate it anytime at night)

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Abhinav

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Today ,I visited Nikon India headquarter Service center .I showed them all the files where I saw lines/banding .Later they checked the camera using their software for mirror alignment and even cleaned the sensor .There engineer told me they cannot replace the camera because Nikon India doesn't have a replacement policy ,but they are ready to change the sensor if needed only after inspecting the files with lines carefully.. WTH

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Correlli

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I feel with you. It would be similar here in Germany. If you buy something and it does not work properly the vendor usually has got the right to "try and fix it" (sorry, I don't know the proper legal term) up to three times before you got the right to ask for an exchange. But depending on the product/vendor/store they usually do it right away.

Anyways, I hope things will turn out fine and you will one day be as happy with your D700 as I am with mine. And maybe you will even look back one day and smile about the "rough" start of your relationship. :)

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Gareth

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certainly never had that issue. i shoot iso3200 when i have to and it looks fine apart from lack of fine detail.

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TaoTeJared

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Abhinav said:
There engineer told me they cannot replace the camera because Nikon India doesn't have a replacement policy ,but they are ready to change the sensor if needed only after inspecting the files with lines carefully.. WTH

That is something ;) At least here in the US when Nikon "fixes" the camera, it always comes back cleaned and looking AND working like new. I have seen them even replace worn grips, replace covers and clean viewfinders along with any work. Only retail stores replace a camera that I have seen, and that is only within a few weeks and if it looks like it was never/barely used.

Hope it comes back fixed!

Posted 1 year ago #