Just put in a pre-order for the D800. I can't believe Nikon has produced a camera this good for $3,000: 36 megapixels, 51-point AF, 4-6 FPS, dual card slots, and weather sealing. Considering all the pixels, I am very impressed with the high ISO performance in the sample shots I've looked at. I shall miss my Canon glass, but I'm really looking forward to putting the D8000 to use.
Defecting from Canon to Nikon. Need advice on glass.
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I know it will be a while before you get it, but when you do, let us know what you think. good and bad.
Thanks!
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Thanks for the update V8beast, I was wondering if you had made the switch yet. As mirtos said, let us know your thoughts (and some pics! :-) when you have had a chance to use it. "Welcome to our world".
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Hey, nice work BTW. You'll like the move to Nikon. I am a D700 shooter, and I have been very jealous of the resolution the 5dII held over the 700. So for me the 800 also sounds like a great fit also (except I ordered the 800E).
I'll echo the recommendation of others here to get the 12-24, 24-70, and 70-200 lenses. I have the 24-70 and 70-200, and they are great lenses -- and I've been lusting after the 12-24 for quite a while now.
One thing I would say about the VR lenses is not to give VR too much credit. It does make a difference, but Nikon says "up to four" stops of difference. In my experience it's only really a reliable 2 stops. So that makes your consideration between a VR F4 lens and a non-VR 2.8 lens really an even comparison in terms of how well you can hand-hold them, and that doesn't really take into account depth of field.
I would also say that a couple of primes are a great addition. The 50mm 1.4 is a great lens and really affordable (your only complaint may be that it doesn't have the "pro feel" versus the aforementioned lenses). And the 85mm 1.4 (if the perspective it gives suits your style) is a REDICULOUSLY sharp pro lens. For some reason the 85mm 1.4 feels like it's in a league of its own for me in terms of sharpness -- even versus nikon's very sharp pro zooms. I think that will be even more evident when it shines on 36MP worth of sensor.
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sfteague said:
Hey, nice work BTW. You'll like the move to Nikon. I am a D700 shooter, and I have been very jealous of the resolution the 5dII held over the 700. So for me the 800 also sounds like a great fit also (except I ordered the 800E).I'll echo the recommendation of others here to get the 12-24, 24-70, and 70-200 lenses. I have the 24-70 and 70-200, and they are great lenses -- and I've been lusting after the 12-24 for quite a while now.
14-24 you mean :) but yeah the 12-24 is great for DXer
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mirtos said:
I know it will be a while before you get it, but when you do, let us know what you think. good and bad.Thanks!
Will do. I've never been shy about heaping praise or criticism on products I rely on to make a living. In fact, pointing out the shortcomings of the Canon model lineup has made me quite unpopular on the Canon forums as of late. LOL.
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sfteague said:
Hey, nice work BTW. You'll like the move to Nikon. I am a D700 shooter, and I have been very jealous of the resolution the 5dII held over the 700. So for me the 800 also sounds like a great fit also (except I ordered the 800E).Thanks for the compliments and the glass recommendation.
IMHO, the only advantage the 5DII had over the D700 was resolution. My dream camera was a cross between a 5DII and a D700, and Nikon has created just that - and then some - with the D800. What I find amusing is how all the Canon fanboys that always made fun of Nikon for its low megapixel bodies are now saying they don't care about resolution.
Canon fanboy: "Man, 36 MPs are way too much. Those files are going to take up way too much hard drive space. Those files are going to require too much RAM to process. There's no way Nikon can triple the MPs over the D700 without a ton of noise. If those rumored D800 specs are true, it's going to cost $4,000."
While Canon has been wallowing in mediocrity the last 4-5 years, Nikon has been consistently delivering products that the market has asked for. The D800E is a perfect example. Offering a camera without an AA filter is rather ballsy of Nikon, but people have been asking for such an option for quite some time. Canon, on the other hand, is more concerned with deliberately castrating its mid-range models to protect its flagship bodies. I truly amazed how far Nikon has come in the last 8 years.
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True Dat
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V8Beast said:
While Canon has been wallowing in mediocrity the last 4-5 years, Nikon has been consistently delivering products that the market has asked for. The D800E is a perfect example. Offering a camera without an AA filter is rather ballsy of Nikon, but people have been asking for such an option for quite some time. Canon, on the other hand, is more concerned with deliberately castrating its mid-range models to protect its flagship bodies. I truly amazed how far Nikon has come in the last 8 years.+1
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+1
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I also can't believe how far Nikon has pushed the specs to price envelope with the D800. I think it's very consumer-centered of them to avoid crippling it the way they have.
Let's not be too hard on the Canon fanboys. I think it's pretty natural to defend the tech that we've bought into (if anyone is familiar with Robert Cialdini, think "commitment and consistency") because we start to make it a part of who we are (see SkintBrit's "welcome to our world" comment above, for example). I think you're now seeing a shift of the Nikon crowd to accept that more megapixels could actually be a useful thing. Lest you think I'm mocking, though, I feel like I'm part of that (have a look at this thread: http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=2235 ).
I'm hoping to get the D800 at some point, too. I've been saying I want the D700 replacement since 2008, but I'm still not where I want to be with lenses so it's looking like it will still be a few years. Have fun with it, V8Beast, and welcome to our world. ;-)
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jonnyapple said:
Let's not be too hard on the Canon fanboys. I think it's pretty natural to defend the tech that we've bought into (if anyone is familiar with Robert Cialdini, think "commitment and consistency") because we start to make it a part of who we are (see SkintBrit's "welcome to our world" comment above, for example).I can understand brand loyality, but when people get personally offended by how I chose to spend my money and my decision to switch brands, that kind of fanaticism is rather preposterous. Even if you are a fan boy, I don't see why you can't acknowledge that a competitor has come up with a great product. For instance, someone on the Canon forum stated how they weren't at all impressed with the D800. Then in another thread, the same person said how impressed he'd be with a 22 mp 5DIII with a 19-point AF system that didn't even have dual card slots of weather sealing.
Personally, I always want the competition to push the envelope of development because ultimately, regardless of which brand I'm shooting with, it will force everyone to develop more competitive products.
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V8Beast said:
....Personally, I always want the competition to push the envelope of development because ultimately, regardless of which brand I'm shooting with, it will force everyone to develop more competitive products.V8Beast: that was very well put. My colleague is a 5DmkII owner, mostly shooting high school sports action for publication in local newspapers, but he has a a long history in archetectural shooting medium format. (he lives in Kyoto, one of the best places in the world for subject matter.) He is now considereing converting back to Nikon (he was formerly an F3 user, but started with Canon in DSLR. His intent is to take advantage of the D800e plus12-24 f/2.8. But I expect he will be well served to keep his Canon glass, as there will be certainly be bodies from Canon.
I visited your website and really enjoyed your photos. They are beautiful.
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V8Beast said:
I can understand brand loyality, but when people get personally offended by how I chose to spend my money and my decision to switch brands, that kind of fanaticism is rather preposterous. Even if you are a fan boy, I don't see why you can't acknowledge that a competitor has come up with a great product. For instance, someone on the Canon forum stated how they weren't at all impressed with the D800. Then in another thread, the same person said how impressed he'd be with a 22 mp 5DIII with a 19-point AF system that didn't even have dual card slots of weather sealing.Personally, I always want the competition to push the envelope of development because ultimately, regardless of which brand I'm shooting with, it will force everyone to develop more competitive products.
Absolutely right. I only said we shouldn't be too hard on them. ;-)
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Wataru said:
He is now considereing converting back to Nikon (he was formerly an F3 user, but started with Canon in DSLR.I think this kind of story will become more common in the coming months. When I was a student in the film days, I shot Nikon just because that's what was available to me at the time, and there was no clear distinction between it an Canon. After the digital revolution, I switched to Canon and could not ever imagine picking up a Nikon body ever again. Well, I gotta eat crow now, because Nikon has pulled a large enough of a gap on Canon, at least for my shooting needs, that I'm going back to Nikon. The lackluster products from Canon the last 4-5 years tells me that I'll be shooting Nikon for a while.
That said, I plan on keeping my Canon point-and-shoot, printer, and ink cartridges :)
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