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Picking lenses for London

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  • Started 1 year ago by iris chrome
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  1. iris chrome

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    Like I said in the other thread, I will be traveling to London shortly and needless to say I will bring my camera along with me. I'm a little undecided about what I should and shouldn't bring with me so I thought who better to ask than the good folks over at NR :)

    Here is what I'm definitely taking along:
    P7000
    D7000
    70-200mm VR1 (I finally broke down and got a used one but it's absolutely amazing!)
    Tokina 11-16mm
    35mm
    SB-700
    Joby gorilla pod

    I plan to use the P7000 as my "snapshot" camera as well as a general walkaround while the D7000 will be reserved for more creative opportunities.

    I'm still debating if I should bring my lensbaby (would be nice from London Eye) and 70-300mm (will I really need that extra 100mm?) as well as if I will need a regular tripod (I will be going to Stonehenge as well as Leeds Castle and Canterbury).

    My objective is to stay as light as possible while still having the lenses I need since I will be carrying my camera bag on my back for the majority of the day for seven days. Any input would be very much appreciated.

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  2. NSXType-R

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    I would say drop the 70-200 and take the 70-300 instead, unless you know you'll absolutely need fast glass, why bother with such heavy weight?

    Remember, you're going on vacation right?

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  3. iris chrome

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    Yeah.. but I'm in love with its bokeh. I'm actually planing to use it more as a portait lens than a typical telephoto.

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    Sound like a great time iris. Great choice in gear! Here is my list for you to consider:

    1) A Circular Polarizer filter (CPL) for your 70-200 2.8.
    2) A good light weight Tripod...will come in handy for those night shots and group shots.
    3) A Collapsible Multi-Disc Light Reflector (i got one from Amazon a few days ago for like $12...send me a PM if you want a link)
    4) Consider getting a teleconverter for your 70-200 2.8. I have the 1.7x and works great...much lighter than the 70-300; moreover, saves space, and gets you up to 500MM on your D7000.
    5) A Camera strap...if you have one great, if not get the Black Rapid RS7.

    Have fun and hope to see some of you favorite shot on here....cheers :D

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  5. sevencrossing

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    AS ever It depends on what you shoot

    For urban landscape's I cant see you needing anything longer than the 70-200 . You seem to missing a mid range zoom or Kit lens, such as the 18-55 or 18-105 which would give better results than the P7000 in low light levels, that you are going to find in the British Winter.

    Pay a lot of attention to how you are going to carry your kit. As golf says, a Black Rapid is going to a lot more comfortable than the standard Nikon strap

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    Most important of all: take an assistant to carry all your gear around!

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    iris chrome said:
    D7000
    70-200mm VR1 (I finally broke down and got a used one but it's absolutely amazing!)

    That is my current favorite for all-purpose stuff. Some of my best shots of 2011 have been taken with that exact combo. Glad you have a wide zoom there too, as being able to get close to many of the locations involved, something a bit wider than 35mm lens will deliver the more atmospheric and landscape shot.

    Are you going to rent a car? I have not driven round London since they started to charge to go into the central area, so don't know how it effects things. Remember they use lots of speeding and traffic light cameras so you may get a ticket doing just 5MPH over the limit...

    If you are going to Stonehenge, try to get to go to Salisbury itself. Just about 10 miles or so to the south, the cathedral and city close round it are very photogenic. There are several other good locations in that area too. If you can, get to go to Wilton House. A few hours wandering round in the formal gardens and the house can be rewarding. While I don't know if its still there, about 20 years ago, I stayed overnight in the inn/hotel opposite the main gate to Wilton and it was a great place to stay itself!

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    I prefer to travel relatively light. My holiday photo gear is Samyang 8mm fisheye, Sigma 20mm f/1.8 and Sigma 85mm. If I were going to shoot at the olympics, I would replace the 85 with a 70-300 or rent a supertele and a tripod on site.

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  9. iris chrome

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    Wow! Lots of great input. I really appreciate all the comments folks. Let me also clarify that London would only be the first part of my trip where I will spend a week there and then I'll be off to Kuwait (where my family resides) for about two and a half weeks.

    @golf007sd

    Great suggestions. That RS7 strap actually looks very comfortable and I think might consider buying one for the trip. Although I usually just tend to wrap the camera strap around my hand a couple of times and just have it function as a grip strap. It usually works fine and very comfortable that is until I need to free my right hand.

    I also like the idea of a teleconverter but I did blow my budget with the London trip and the VR1 acquisition. Same thing about the tripod too. I do have a couple of aluminum tripods laying around but I don't think I can afford a carbon fiber one at this point. I might bring along one of the tripods I already have though and just leave it at the hotel until I go to Stonehenge and Leeds.

    I do already have a CPL filter which I'm taking bringing along as well as a 64x and a 1000x ND filters (I plan to use these in Kuwait). As for the reflectors though, I don't know if this grasshopper is ready for this level of photography yet.

    @sevencrossing

    That's what I thought and that's exactly what I wanted to confirm about the 70-200mm. I did leave the mid range zoom out on purpose. I actually do own a 24-70mm but I just never found it to be my style. My style is more wide angle and close-ups (and now delicious bokeh lol). As a matter of fact I might even sell it when I come back. The other reason I'm grabbing the P7k instead is because I want to be as casual as possible when walking down the streets of London... although knowing my fiance, she will probably be taking over the P7k and I will end up "stuck" with the D7k... hehehe XD

    I actually don't have any spare EN-EL15 batteries for the D7k but I do have a grip and spare eneloops. Hopefully that along with the P7k should be good enough not to leave me stranded without juice.

    @donaldejose

    LOL... I do have one. I call it my Think Tank Streetwalker HD :D

    @bjrichus

    That is a pretty sweet setup, isn't it? And I totally agree about the wide angle too. As far as the 35mm, I'm actually considering dropping it in favor of the lensbaby instead. The lensbaby does go as low as f/2 and I can be more creative with it too.

    We will be using the tube while there. I figured renting a car will be more expensive not to mention having to deal with getting an international DL, parking spaces, tickets and worst of all the backward driving on the left side of the road (lol JK :p).

    I'm actually pretty comfortable using the underground. When I was younger, my family used to vacation in London often and I used to use the underground almost exclusively.

    I actually will be going to Stonehenge as part of a tour but I don't think the tour will go to Salisbury (except in the bus) but if we do will look for those sites. I'm really beginning to feel that one week is not nearly enough time to spend in London.

    @Godless

    Yeah, I hear ya and there is nothing I'd love more than to be able to do that but I will also be traveling to Kuwait for the rest of my trip and my whole journey will actually last for almost a month. That's a lot more time than I'd like to spend without the rest of my gear.

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    I missed this three days ago when it was OP'd, if you're still checking the site over here IC, and are passing Heathrow (M4 junction 3) PM me, I work 60seconds away. Hope you're having a great time!

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    SkintBrit said:
    I missed this three days ago when it was OP'd, if you're still checking the site over here IC, and are passing Heathrow (M4 junction 3) PM me, I work 60seconds away. Hope you're having a great time!

    I don't think he left yet.

    Personally, I'd travel light, but that'd be just me. I notice that I leave my DSLR home if I know I can't carry a backpack- I'm not used to messenger bags.

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    golf007sd said:
    1) A Circular Polarizer filter (CPL) for your 70-200 2.8.
    4) Consider getting a teleconverter for your 70-200 2.8. I have the 1.7x and works great...much lighter than the 70-300; moreover, saves space, and gets you up to 500MM on your D7000.
    5) A Camera strap...if you have one great, if not get the Black Rapid RS7.

    +1 on each of these. I never leave home without all three.

    The only thing I would add is a smaller lens pouch for your belt. I have one that I can put my 12-24 in (essentially same size as the 11-16) or a 35 & 50mm coupled with a dbl rear lens cap. I then put the 70-200 screwed to the BR strap so I can easily swap lenses.

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    @SkinBrit

    60 seconds? Hey now, you're not a security officer at LHR who will confiscate my precious bag when I arrive, are you? :p

    Seriously though, I really appreciate the offer (from you and from sevencrossing) but I'd feel very bad if I was to intrude.

    @NSX

    Yup, I'm still here. Leaving this Sunday :)

    I understand your point and that's mostly why I'm bringing a P&S along with me instead of a midrange zoom. I think there will be days where I will just leave my backpack at the hotel and shoot with the P7000. The other thing is that I will also be away for 3.5 weeks and the other part of my trip will be in Kuwait so I think it's well worth schlepping along my toys across three continents. After all, that's why we buy our cameras, right?

    @TTJ

    I thought about the belt pouch too but was afraid it would be a little overkill. Depending on how this trip goes, I think I might incorporate it into my next trip.

    I do, however, have a question regarding the CPL filter. How do you guys use it in conjunction with the hood on the 70-200mm lens? It's a little inconvenient to use both at the same time, isn't it?

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    I use one of the round (single) lens (maybe 3.5" long) that is really small that my coat covers. I just find it a real pain to take a pack off or constantly fiddle with a shoulder bag.

    iris chrome said:
    I do, however, have a question regarding the CPL filter. How do you guys use it in conjunction with the hood on the 70-200mm lens? It's a little inconvenient to use both at the same time, isn't it?

    To be honest I only use my hood maybe 50% of the time and the CPL maybe 5% of the time. If I want to shoot both horizontal and portrait set mine about half way in-between (perfect) and just leave it otherwise I just set it to one and just leave it.

    I always figure it takes up almost no space and never hurts taking it along.

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    iris chrome said:
    I do, however, have a question regarding the CPL filter. How do you guys use it in conjunction with the hood on the 70-200mm lens? It's a little inconvenient to use both at the same time, isn't it?

    the problem is you cannot easily adjust the filter with the Hood in place

    I mostly use my CPF for landscapes, when I am using a tripod, so not problem

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    iris chrome said:
    @bjrichus

    That is a pretty sweet setup, isn't it? And I totally agree about the wide angle too.

    We will be using the tube while there. I figured renting a car will be more expensive

    Many people think the 70-200 is junk, and yes, they are plastic but compared to $1,000+ lenses, it is a compromise. Sure it is, but using my personal assessment of the thing, if I include the - lack of - cost, it scores a good 7 (maybe just scrapes an 8) out of 10 which even if I'd prefer the better quality glass, when spending my own money (remember this lens costs less than some Coolpix cameras, especially if you buy refurbished), makes it a no-brainer. Pocket change by the usual for pro level Nikon lenses.

    Ah yes, the tube. I have memories of commuting into the enter of London for years on end and standing on dusty, pee smelling train platforms, with the occasional rush of 120 decibel sound as a train pulled in or out. Hope they cleaned it up a bit since I was last there!

    Can't say anything new about the cost of renting a car in the UK. Gas (petrol) is a big part of the cost. Perhaps @sevencrossing or @skintbrit can confirm the cost of a liter over there (I think 3.8 of those are needed to make a US gallon). If you can get an outing to Salisbury cathedral and the surrounding area (I think it's called "The Cloisters" but don't quote me on that), and get let out of the tour bus, even for just 30 minutes, it will be really worth it.

    Enjoy.

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    bjrichus said:
    Many people think the 70-200 is junk, and yes, they are plastic but compared to $1,000+ lenses, it is a compromise. Sure it is, but using my personal assessment of the thing, if I include the - lack of - cost, it scores a good 7 (maybe just scrapes an 8) out of 10 which even if I'd prefer the better quality glass, when spending my own money (remember this lens costs less than some Coolpix cameras, especially if you buy refurbished), makes it a no-brainer. Pocket change by the usual for pro level Nikon lenses.

    Ah yes, the tube. I have memories of commuting into the enter of London for years on end and standing on dusty, pee smelling train platforms, with the occasional rush of 120 decibel sound as a train pulled in or out. Hope they cleaned it up a bit since I was last there!

    Can't say anything new about the cost of renting a car in the UK. Gas (petrol) is a big part of the cost. Perhaps @sevencrossing or @skintbrit can confirm the cost of a liter over there (I think 3.8 of those are needed to make a US gallon). If you can get an outing to Salisbury cathedral and the surrounding area (I think it's called "The Cloisters" but don't quote me on that), and get let out of the tour bus, even for just 30 minutes, it will be really worth it.

    Enjoy.

    Nope nothing's changed with the tube, did you get that description from the "visit London tourism guide"? ;-) Gas is around £1.40 a litre at the moment, to put that in to perspective, an average family car will cost you £50-£70 to fill. If you can hire a diesel I would, you'll get much more MPG. IC please don't be silly about not coming and saying hi if you're passing, maybe i'll be busy at work when the time comes, but i'll be cross if you don't give me the chance to make you a drink and bite to eat in the work kitchen if you're passing. One other thing about the tube, I would do it, but I'd be careful about advertising your camera while you're travelling, I don't think it's any more dangerous than other big cities, but please, keep aware of who's looking at your gear.

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    SkintBrit said:
    Nope nothing's changed with the tube, did you get that description from the "visit London tourism guide"? ;-) Gas is around £1.40 a litre at the moment, to put that in to perspective, an average family car will cost you £50-£70 to fill.

    HAHAHA... Nope. The description is my own I used to use the Central, Northern, and District lines a lot... I remember when... There was an opera singer as a signalman at Liverpool Street Station (Central Line) and he used to serenade everyone as we went through the station... His rendition of "Mind the Gap" was a delight.

    Holy Cow... One pound and forty pence for a liter? That's $5.32 for a US Gallon? WOW! I paid $2.91 a gallon two days ago - at Sam's club here, who are usually cheaper than everyone else, but OUCH.

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    @TTJ and @seven

    Thanks for the info. I mostly use CPL when I'm shooting into a windows. You know... getting pictures of touristy stuff at museums and such. I do use it sometimes for other tasks but just not as much. I just thought maybe there is a method for leaving both CPL and hood on while easily accessing the filter.

    @seven

    I'm still working on getting the details for my bath tour. Although I have a feeling I might not be able to contact them until I'm in London which is fine because the tour isn't until the 18th. I'll pm you when I get them.

    @bjrichus

    I'm not sure if we're talking about the same lens anymore. My VR1 is all metal and heavy like an elephant's trunk. Thanks for the tip about the Cloisters. I'll google it up and try to convince our tour driver to make a quick stop there.

    @SkinBrit

    Thanks for the offer. Really, it's so nice of you. I'll see if I can swing by really fast. Btw, which terminal are you at? I'll be landing at terminal 4.

    As far as the underground goes, believe I know how dangerous it can get. My father was once robbed at knifepoint at Queensway station. I don't plan to advertise my equipment when I'm there which is even another reason for the P7000. My backpack is all black and unless you know it's a camera bag I don't think you can tell. Anyway, I don't think it's as bad as NYC's subways.

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    iris chrome said:
    @TTJ and @seven

    Thanks for the info. I mostly use CPL when I'm shooting into a windows. You know... getting pictures of touristy stuff at museums and such. I do use it sometimes for other tasks but just not as much. I just thought maybe there is a method for leaving both CPL and hood on while easily accessing the filter.

    Screw on hood works. McNally and Kelby have a hard-on for one, can't remember what it was but fairly cheap. You can find it on their blogs.

    bjrichus said:
    Many people think the 70-200 is junk, and yes, they are plastic but compared to $1,000+ lenses,

    What in the world are you talking about? It is a metal beast that is $2000! ;)

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