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Thoughts on Macro Lenses

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  1. casperwb

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    check B&H, Adorama and Nikon USA web site for refurbished 70-300 VR. the price sould be around what you would like to pay.

    Nikon refurbished equipment is equipment that has been returned under warranty for some reason.

    repaired, parts changed and adjusterd by Nikon to new specs and put back on the market as refurbished.

    I think, if you are buying lenses they are a great deal, as these are double checked before being sent out, much better than used, and they may be better than new simply because they are tested and adjusted.

    the ones that I have seen look brand new and perform flawlessly.

    if you have good light the 70-300mm vr will not disapoint and the VR is a must for a lens of this length.

    when the light starts to drop, may I suggest the 50mm which works out to be about 75mm a short telephoto.

    f1.8 f1.4 depending on your pocket will give you the low light coverage and speed you will need indoors.

    D or G really does not matter with the D7000, they are both fast and IQ is fantastic however a search of this site will give you good reviews on the 50mm .

    good luck with your quest.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. NikoDoby

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    This thread is supposed to be about macro not telephoto lenses.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. casperwb

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    NikoDoby said:
    This thread is supposed to be about macro not telephoto lenses.

    .
    that was two year ago, however I quote the latest request for information:

    "Okay the terminator, NikoDoby has closed my other thread on macros and telephotos. So asking it here again. I have D7k + 35mm (which covers most of my shooting). I have 85mm f3.5 for macro and it gives stunning pictures for my needs. I'm looking for a telephoto lens from 70 or 80mm till 200 or 300mm with f2.8

    Should I keep my 85mm for macro or buy something that covers telephoto and macro? I have $300-400 for a lens to buy. Thinking that selling 85mm f3.5 would give me some more room to buy a better lens (looking at 80-200 f2.8). Please advise on which route to take. Thanks. "

    therefore our replies are just an attempt to assist the request for information.

    remember, you closed the thread and the guy looked one up and posted the request for help here.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. NikoDoby

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    Uh, yeah I know Casper but if someone searches for telephoto info they aren't going to find it in this "Macro" discussion. As usual someone asks about a particular lens and you guys give all sorts of suggestions and the discussion turns into one giant lump of conflicting lens suggestions. Then members complain when they can't find that info in future searches.

    Macro lens discussions in this thread. The only exemption should be telephoto lenses with macro abilities like the Sigma 70-200 f2.8. Otherwise telephoto discussions go in the threads related to those lenses.

    PM if you want to continue this Casper.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. casperwb

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    Niko

    good points,

    " if someone searches for telephoto info they aren't going to find it in this "Macro" discussion."

    I agree with you totally, what we have to come up with is a way to direct the discussion, or maybe switch over to the correct subject in the header.

    your way of posting links is a nice way, and then maybe asking eveyone to continue the discussion over there.

    or, maybe just open up the link and paste the question over there.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. swame_sp

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    http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=2070&replies=22#post-69937

    Sorry guys, I have continued my reply in another telephoto lens thread. Hope that should be fine.

    thanks again.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  7. DaveyJ

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    I admit I am responding to a very old topic. I have used the 60 Micro Nikkor and the 105 Micro Nikkor more than all other macro lens put together. I use the 60 micro more than my 105. For product shots I like the look of the 60 generally better. I prefer maximum depth of field which in macro (close up) you don't get much. As to high speed work with moving subjects I have used the 60 micro more than the 105. When it comes to close up work on live subjects though I do admit that often I will use the 70-300VR since it can make a very small subject pretty big. The nice thing about the 60 micro is that you can be really close. The down side of the 105 is that often I am pretty far away from I subject that I would prefer to be closer. That by the way is ONE of the reasons I prefer the 60 for product work. I do think that maybe swame_sp got diverted from this thread when it was quite a bit more relevant than some may think. A close up on 70-300VR of say a butterfly can get pretty darn big and often I can focus in on half the butterfly or just compose it so it fills the frame with a little space around it. So in that sense i consider it "macro".

    Posted 1 year ago #
  8. PaulR

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    If you have a 50mm Lens just Buy a Nikon BR2A adapter off Ebay for a Tenner, and reverse the lens round. You get amazing Macro shots with this low budget process

    Posted 1 year ago #
  9. msmoto

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    Revisiting an old thread, I was trying my first "macro" with an old AF-Nikkor on the D4 and of course realized the laws of physics had not changed in fifty years. Almost always, or is it always, supplemental lighting is required to get the good macro shots. It would seem to me, based on my first little ditty, that to shoot at a vibration reducing speed of 1/500th or faster and to get down to at least f/16, and with the magnification effect causing an increase in exposure of an f/stop or more, that some extra light is good. So, this is about what type of lighting/lens combos are folks using?

    And here is my first attempt with an old 28-85mm f/3.5-4.5 AF-Nikkor with 68mm of Vivitar extension tubes attached:

    Droplet 5mm across

    The droplet measured less than 5mm across. It was on the metallic paint on the side of my motorhome.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  10. macsavageg4

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    I use a 55mm f/3.5 non-AI that I converted to an AI with a D7000 and set of Nikon Mii bellows at work for taking images of accidental damage on machines and things like that. At home I have a 55mm f/2.8 AIS that I rebuilt the oiled aperture on and an assortment of enlarger lenses that I use with a set of Nikon PB-5 bellows depending on how close I need to get. Most of the stuff that I have been experimenting in taking images of is broken technology or machine work and occasional still life.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  11. sevencrossing

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    Hi msmoto

    It's good to know the laws of physics have not changed

    A VR macro will allow you to shoot between 1/100 and 1/250 (I use the 100mm f 2.8)

    For additional lighting I have used up to 3 SB900's with excellent results

    I am current experimenting with some SB-R200s

    The SB-R1 Kit is beautifully made and works well , but for extreme close ups you may need the 200mm macro

    If you are using SB200s instead of a ring flash, you might need more then two SB200s

    You don't need an SU 800 the SB200 will sync from a SB900

    Posted 11 months ago #
  12. msmoto

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    BINGO, the old grey cells are getting sparked....VR...yes! I put the 105 VR on my "wish list". And the lighting... I think I will work out a reflector ring....shoot the flash into one side and have it reflected all around the ring, coming out diffused at least 270 degrees around the subject...

    Will get this going and when completed, or if completed will post on NRF...

    Thanks all for getting my mind working!

    Posted 11 months ago #
  13. msmoto

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    In doing some more investigation, I came upon the Sigma 150mm f/2.8 EX DG OS HSM APO Macro Lens. The reviews are good, but has anyone had experience on NRF with this one? The only advantage is the longer focal length, something which makes getting the light in a bit easier. But at the loss of some DOF.

    At $1100.00 USD it is about $200.00 more than the 105mmm VR Nikkor. It also has its own tripod ring, a convenience I would think.

    Your thoughts anyone?

    Posted 11 months ago #
  14. Godless

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    msmoto, I have had the non-OS version of the 150mm Sigma and I loved it. Sold that to get the 150mm OS. The OS version is probably the best macro I have come across. The focal length is really nice with small bugs. If you worry about dof loss, stop down and use a ringlight or macro flash to compensate for light loss.

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  15. msmoto

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    @Godless...thanks, I might have to go this way instead of the 105mm. There is clearly an advantage in having some room to work. If the 200mm medical micro Nikkor were VR, this is the way I would go.

    And the nice thing is the Sigma is available and the Nikkor 105mm is backordered.... possibly in the same queue as the D4/D800's , ha, ha, ha.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  16. Wonkylens

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    I have the non-OS Sigma 150 mm combined with 2 Nikon SB-200s for photographing bugs and I think it works well. Recently purchased the Nikon 60 mm macro but have mostly used that for "close ups" of flowers. Regarding the 105 mm I have heard lots of good things and strongly suspect it is the best all round macro lens you can get.

    When it comes to flashes for macro work you can use your existing external flash, get a magic arm and build you own diffusor from a ice cream box or something. It's a fun kitchen table project :)

    Regarding tripod collar I guess it somewhat depends on what tripod you use but persoally I think its a big plus. I got two Manfrotto tripods, both with the abiility to tilt the center coloumn horisontally and when I do that with legs spread out to the max I can get very low and easily rotate the camera to a horisontal position using the collar.

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  17. shutterdancer

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    Nice first attempt msmoto,I've been using the Sigma 150mm macro for a few years now and honestly I wouldn't trade it for anything else. I don't use flash and I rarely shoot without a tripod.Lots of folks believe that you have to shoot handheld and use flash for fast moving critters.That doesn't work for me.Sitting behind a tripod waiting for the critters to come my way in an active spot usually does.In my opinion macro requires more patience than any other photographic discipline.

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  18. NSXType-R

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    shutterdancer said:
    Nice first attempt msmoto,I've been using the Sigma 150mm macro for a few years now and honestly I wouldn't trade it for anything else. I don't use flash and I rarely shoot without a tripod.Lots of folks believe that you have to shoot handheld and use flash for fast moving critters.That doesn't work for me.Sitting behind a tripod waiting for the critters to come my way in an active spot usually does.In my opinion macro requires more patience than any other photographic discipline.

    I definitely agree on the patience!

    Flies and dragonflies are amazing, but they're skittish and are hard to shoot.

    Praying mantises are great subjects however- they're usually large insects and sit around a long time so you can move around them to get that shot.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  19. msmoto

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    @shutterdancer.... patience? But, I do believe you are correct, absolutely correct. This is precisely what one must have when shooting race cars/bikes. Alert and patient. Thanks for the reminder. I really am leaning toward the 150mm Sigma, if nay to try a Sigma lens. Never have had anything except Nikkor for a long time, but the focal length and OS are real positives. Thanks...

    Posted 11 months ago #
  20. shutterdancer

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    @NXSType-R...a few summers ago I started shooting a male Blue Dasher.I started off at a fairly nice distance,even with the 150mm and 1.4 TC.He returned to the same spot everyday for almost a week and a half (I knew it was the same male because of a unique mark on his body)It got to where I could set up my tripod next to the branch that he hung out on and he would come to me. Believe it or not,it seemed that he was enjoying the interaction as much as I was.
    @msmoto.....after trying to shoot certain small critters on leaves blowing in a stiff breeze,I've often wished for something as large as a car in my viewfinder :)

    Posted 11 months ago #
  21. Mike Gunter

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    Hi all,

    I have the 60mm f2.8 and 105mm f2.8 that are both over 20 years old and going strong.

    The 105mm is a great general purpose micro, and the 60mm kept for slide copying that I do occasionally.

    This was used many years ago for an Army publication. It is a jump tower. The original is an Ektachrome slide.

    Both lenses make for great portraits in DX, the 105 for more stand off, and for FX, the 105mm would be ideal. It was/is for film, too.

    My best,

    Mike

    Posted 11 months ago #
  22. msmoto

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    Thanks, Mike, Gosh how I love the old Ektachromes.....

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  23. msmoto

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    rschnaible said:
    OK NsxType-R here is a follow on to our notes in PAD... Sorry if I sounded defensive, I was not trying to come across that way if you thought I was.

    rschnaible said:
    macro is all new to me and on the learning curve I have taken dozens of shots and this is really the only shot that is half way decent. I have a lot to learn on macro. I do have a 105 mm prime that should arrive on Monday. Not sure if part of my problem is the use of the zoom rather than working with my body to get the right position.

    NsxType-R said
    No, I'm not saying that there was a technical problem with the shot, my question was asked because I have similar problems with my own shots. When shooting something with deep, intense colors such as deep red or pink flowers, there appears to be blotches of white similar to your shot where there appears to have been overexposure but there shouldn't have.

    Maybe this question should be directed in another thread.

    Right now I am using a 18-200 mm nikkor to do macro. I find that I am usually making an attempt to do this is the afternoon, bright light and there is typically wind. I have a hard time getting the focus and at other times it does wash out. The shots I am doing are RAW format. I read a bit in the CS6 reference book I picked up over the weekend and it did note that when shooting in RAW and then looking at what is created with flowers with the rich colors that sometimes the computer screen can not reproduce the tones. The author suggests a couple of tweeks. The author, Martin Evening notes that the sensor in most cameras can capture a greater range of colors than can be shown in the monitor. He suggests using the sliders to minipulate the luminance and saturation to reveal the hidden colors to eliminate the "wash out".

    I am learning and macro I have found to be more difficult than expected. Right now I am not sure if it is the photograph technique (I do think that has something to do with my issue right now) or the process.

    Any thoughts or ideas are welcome.

    And, now that we are here....comments welcome...

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  24. NSXType-R

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    Thanks for moving it here, I didn't know whether it fell into a macro issue or a color management issue, but I guess macro it is.

    rschnaible, no offense taken, sorry I mistook it as it was.

    I'll try to find the shots I made that had similar color problems as your shot and I'll post it to see what other members think.

    I also need to learn how to edit my shots, I had been busy but I'm free now so I'll take a look at luminance and saturation to coax out some of that color where it should have been.

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  25. shutterdancer

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    Tell you one thing that I've learned.........never shoot Cardinals in jpeg. ;)

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