As You know Nikon just announced new camera - Nikon D3100 red. Don't know what You think, for me it's a joke.
Nikon d3100 - red
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Posted 1 year ago #
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I am hoping this next announcement on the 21st or so is much better. I don't want any of the new bodies that others do, but a red version of the D3100 is just lame. At least give me a new lens to lust after :)
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It is a joke and a window opener... If nikon would stop following canon (who seems to have already jumped ship) they would gain a market share. Color Dslrs never were fantasmic sellers. Pentax probably has more colors than sold models (or a pantone kit for that matter). The rebel is a joke model (only bought by people who want to be a photographer but aren't) While not a serious camera nikon overall has been held to a higher standard. This just shows that they are desperately selling out to competition.
It would be a smart marketing move if they released a D700 replacement merely because many coolcrap and D3100/D5100 buyers are influenced by friends who are serious shooters as well as what they see pros and serious amateurs use. Most of the Canuts I know only own a P&S or a Rebel and when asked why they got canon they usually say "its what the pros (or some Random serious friend) told me"...
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I think it's a cool color.
Would never buy one, but as far as shades of red go, not too bad.
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Would you buy a metal bodied and weather sealed D3100? I think that might have been a more interesting new product.
However, I feel as if Nikon would have announced something if it weren't for the earthquake and tsunami.
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To my eyes, the red 3100 is designed to appeal to those who might also have a Hello Kitty back pack, wear mismatched striped knee length socks and be interested in the latest gadget while they commute into downtown Tokyo for school or college, certainly not professional photographers, no matter where they are!
As NSXType-R pointed out there might be a market for such a device if it is sealed and much more solidly made.. but in glossy red?
Hmmmm....
As I have said elsewhere several times this month (on the main blog)... "Nothing to see here, move along people, move right along."
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wel it is all about marketing, it is really red and black
they brought out the P&S in colours, and maybe the red S models out sold all the rest,
therefore if the people you are targeting likes red, then intice them to move up to the entry level DSLR in red.
It is like going fishing, you have to use the right bait for the species that you targeting.
maybe they are testing the market to see how well it is accepted.
now, if they brought out a D400 or D800 in titanium and black would you buy one?
let the fur fly
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Hope my twin girls don't find out. I just bought 2 RED Coolpix's last Christmas! I'm sure Nikon will sell some this coming Christmas season. Later on in 2012 we might see them on a game show or tucked under everybody's seat on a talk show.
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bjrichus said:
To my eyes, the red 3100 is designed to appeal to those who might also have a Hello Kitty back pack, wear mismatched striped knee length socks and be interested in the latest gadget while they commute into downtown Tokyo for school or college, certainly not professional photographers, no matter where they are!As NSXType-R pointed out there might be a market for such a device if it is sealed and much more solidly made.. but in glossy red?
Hmmmm....
As I have said elsewhere several times this month (on the main blog)... "Nothing to see here, move along people, move right along."
Think of it this way- a D3100 is probably 95-97% of the capabilities of a D90 and perhaps outspecs it in some ways. The only major thing it's really missing is commander mode, extra buttons and depth of field preview.
Think about it, a small spare backup DX body. I think it's workable.
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I agree with the comments made on it being a sorry attempt to steal some market shares with a different color camera instead of releasing something that sets Nikon above the rest. It does fall in line with lower model dSLRs such as Pentax and of course the Canon that was shown on the blog, but is it needed?
I think Nikon needs to stick to the image of high quality products that are superior (hopefully in most cases) to the competitors and although they don't have 15 different color bodies the camera will take better pictures.
It seems like not that big of a deal...it is the lowest dSLR body and all, but hopefully it isn't a look into the future. I would hate to see Nikon just copying the crowd and trying to steal a couple of buyers with flashy and mostly pointless additions to cameras.
Maybe the red color can be called "steal me red"...I am sure it won't stand out in a crowd. Also I don't picture any pro shooting with such a bright colored camera either.
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NSXType-R said:
Think of it this way- a D3100 is probably 95-97% of the capabilities of a D90 and perhaps outspecs it in some ways. The only major thing it's really missing is commander mode, extra buttons and depth of field preview.Think about it, a small spare backup DX body. I think it's workable.
You haven't used a D3100 with a D90 enough have you? I find the D90 much more comparable to a D300s than a D3100 based on not just the button layout but on the manual and advanced menu features...
As an auto or scene mode camera the D3100 is obviously better but as a manual and "pro" body the D90 wins by a mile..
I agree with you on that metal bodied weather sealed D3100... Put that and a subcommand dial on it and it will sell like hotcakes to serious users as well as casual shooters, soccer moms, and students...
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kyoshinikon said:
.I agree with you on that metal bodied weather sealed D3100... Put that and a subcommand dial on it and it will sell like hotcakes to serious users as well as casual shooters, soccer moms, and students...
but the question is: would anyone be willing to pay slightly less than a D7000 for that D3100
sales would be dismal.
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tcole1983 said:
I think Nikon needs to stick to the image of high quality products that are superior (hopefully in most cases) to the competitors and although they don't have 15 different color bodies the camera will take better pictures.+1 (as the phrase goes).
Problem is, they obviously feel they NEED to do this kind of thing to "stay competitive", for which I'd read it as: "We need to do this kind of crappy thing or else we will be paid less attention by the mass media and mass market place sales to whom, actually make up most of our pay checks".
Shame, but it is probably more realistic than we think, given the sales numbers of low level cameras vs things like FX DSLR's.
tcole1983 said:
It seems like not that big of a deal...it is the lowest dSLR body and all, but hopefully it isn't a look into the future. I would hate to see Nikon just copying the crowd and trying to steal a couple of buyers with flashy and mostly pointless additions to cameras.Another +1 for you... 100% agree.
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NSXType-R said:
Think about it, a small spare backup DX body. I think it's workable.I use a D3000 to back up my D7000 ... When the D3000 breaks (and it will before the D7000, which is much more sturdy), I will be getting either a D7100 (when it comes out) or another D7000 body if they end up cheaper refurbished and the timing is right.
The big question here is what color?
I might go for a blue and green paisley pattern or maybe the one with a vomit splash design?
A facetious comment perhaps as there really is only one color for a camera when you want to be considered "serious" by clients who you have to convince to spend substantial amounts of money with you & just how serious you take their business.
For the rest of us, we can choose to match the color of our eyes if we so choose (not that I would), but.... there is also an argument to make ones gear look as much like a "consumer" product for street photography to avoid security guards and such...
:-)
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bj
do not be afraid to say it
you want
green green
to march the shade of your skin
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You know what would be a cool camera for them to make? Like other people have been saying, a metal-bodied weather sealed D3100 but with no paint, just a brushed metal finish.
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casperwb said:
but the question is: would anyone be willing to pay slightly less than a D7000 for that D3100sales would be dismal.
That's a great point and the same issue at hand if Nikon announced a cheap FX camera the price of a D7000. The only thing stopping people from buying FX would be kit zoom FX lenses.
But you're right, if the price is about the same as a D7000, no one would buy it.
Here's another hypothetical question- what happens if Nikon went like Pentax and Olympus and started weather sealing and using metal bodies for their entire lineup while keeping the same general prices, say a $50-$100 increase for both the D3100 and D5100?
That might be very attractive, no?
bjrichus said:
I use a D3000 to back up my D7000 ... When the D3000 breaks (and it will before the D7000, which is much more sturdy), I will be getting either a D7100 (when it comes out) or another D7000 body if they end up cheaper refurbished and the timing is right.If I ever get around to it, when I graduate my parents promised me a camera of my choice. I chose the D300s at that point, but I'm banking towards whatever replaces the D7000 at that point.
That is, if my father doesn't forget first. :D
enthdegree said:
You know what would be a cool camera for them to make? Like other people have been saying, a metal-bodied weather sealed D3100 but with no paint, just a brushed metal finish.I agree, perhaps with some new metal contact manual focus lenses, it'd be a very cool kit.
I would imagine if Nikon were to be smart it would update all of its manual focus lenses with metal contacts and sell them at Zeiss prices.
It would be a win-win situation- the video crowd wouldn't need to scrounge for old Nikkor lenses.
The Nikon film users can still get their F stops.
And the Nikon digital people can still use their crazy G lenses but get the fun of using manual focus lenses if they so choose with exif data.
I think we should pool some money and buy Nikon so that I can run Nikon. :D
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Saw the red D3100 at Best Buy. One word: UGLY.
It looks like Lee Press-On Nails.
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Just for the record, I'll throw this out there: you CAN get consumers with this kind of stuff. In this years batch of younger friends (and older friends' kids) getting cameras for Christmas, one of them got none other than a red D3100. So stuff like this DOES make them money. Albeit on the kind of people probably not reading a camera rumour website anticipating what the next thing is going to be :P
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El_Pickerel said:
Just for the record, I'll throw this out there: you CAN get consumers with this kind of stuff. In this years batch of younger friends (and older friends' kids) getting cameras for Christmas, one of them got none other than a red D3100. So stuff like this DOES make them money. Albeit on the kind of people probably not reading a camera rumour website anticipating what the next thing is going to be :PYes you're right, and I wonder, could the answer why none of us would buy one be more to do with the fact that rather being on bjrichus's school bus to Tokyo, we're more likely to be wearing socks with our sandals?
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Yes, I think the Asian markets were the main target here. That said, I was playing around with the Nikon J1 while doing some holiday shopping last week (I'll admit, it's a fun little camera), and in the five minutes I was playing with the only real camera on the display, three ladies picked up either the pink or white mock-ups to ooh and aah over them. There I was testing autofocus speed and chimping on the display and they were fine just looking at a chunk of plastic that couldn't even turn on.
It's easy to forget just how small the group of us is that is focused on function over form. No socks with my sandals here, but I've been known to wear chacos with dress slacks before. ;-)
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I still want a metal bodied weather sealed D3100 with a metal battery grip attachment. :D
I have yet to try the J1 or V1, but if I stop into an electronics store I'll give it a shot.
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