Mike, I think I was the one not being clear (or maybe I should say not elaborating). I was thinking he could record 4 channels on the field recorder, and output the monitor signal with a 3.5mm cable to the camera to keep that on chip with the video stream (saves you from synching later as you pointed out). That way if there was an exceptional clip he could always synchronize (and remix?) in post processing.
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Thanks guys I am getting way more than I am barging for here! Lots of good advice especially from Mike so thanks mate!
Just for an update, so far my decision are D7000 with juicedlink cx231. by the way, does anyone know if the Juicedlink cx231 has headphone output as well as output to SLR 3.5mm?
Mike Gunter said:
I'm not _sure_ that's good advice. Generally it would be, but in the multiple canopy jungle, there will be plenty of protection from wind noise.
If Jacky is on a tripod (and he should be), and there isn't handling noise from the camera, there shouldn't be a reason to use a dead cat, in fact, it could kill the nuisance sounds coming from the jungle that will make the video. Using the Juicedlink box, he can bring the sound to where he wants it perfectly.
Whichever way Jacky wants to go, a dead cat is a good investment over the fullness of time, and he can try it out and use it or not making tests with his gear on the ground.
OTOH, in other areas, where wind noise is huge, Montana where I am, you wouldn't leave home without it.
I am planning to take 2 mics from uni, a really nice shotgun mic I used before (not sure what it is) with XLR, feathery windscreens and shock absorber. I also need a mic to record sounds from surroundings, can you recommend a type of mic that do that best?
They also have rifle mics do you know if they are any good for recording ambient and directional sound from the subject? I am sure uni will have it all and if I am going to get the juicedlink box, I prob won't invest in a mic until I finish uni next year.
For Interviews and such I am planing to use P2 and plug the shotgun straight into it. It is more flexible and faster to setup than SLR in some situations etc.
I would see if there are any requirements from the science crew, like maybe needing 1080i60 to do some higher speed shots.
For what it's worth, I'll be taking a D7000, audio gear, and a couple of helmet cams to Alaska in a couple of years. The trip will be made by motorcycle, so rugged equipment is a must, but I think the D7000 can handle it. It just handled my last motorcycle trip just fine.
Here is some straight from the D7000 video using autofocus, 70-300mm VR lens and a Rode VideoMic. The audio is actually really crisp with little to no hiss.
Hi SZR, thanks for your input. Hi-speed would be ideal, but the best I have got is 720p at 60fps (gopro HD). Others such as P2 and D7000 are only 24fps. But still it would be extremely useful!! Planning to get some hummingbirds in flight in slowmo!
Hmm, not quite motorbike, slower, in fact a lot slower... a mule to be exact! I will be traveling by bus from the airport, and then a 5-6 hours mule ride up to the science lab! Should be ok taking it easy to get as much video as I want lol.
Sorry I am in china atm video sites are blocked, so I couldn't have a look at your vid yet. But from your comment I assume that the sounds are loud and direct from a motorbike race (correct me of I am wrong). Under the forest canopy in the other hand are the complete opposite (guessing as I have never been). So Mike's suggestion with the juicedlink are great to get the best I could when I am there. Not doubt there will be plenty of post-production afterward through.
I agree with Mike about Ecuador. It really is an amazingly beautiful place. Which province are you going to? I spent two years there—half in Guayaquil, 6 mos in Manabí, and 6 mos in northern Los Ríos. It is truly laid back and so lovely. This may not be the most popular thing to say on a tech site, but they are generally much happier than people here in the industrialized world in spite of (or maybe because of) their lack of things.
I've written elsewhere about this setup, but the zoom H4n is also a nice option, pjacky. It's got phantom power on its XLR inputs, too. Here's a discussion on some other external mic options:
Hi Johnny and thanks for your input. Had a look at H4n, probable great for ambient and a backup device for interview and such. But the cost for me could be a problem as I am already spending thousands on flight and new video gears, as well as now sound equipments. But it is a great suggestion through am I will take that as future reference :)
I am going to a science reserve up in the Andean cloud forest, seems to be a nice place and people I have spoken to on email are nice too.
BTW, as you and Mike have been to forests in Ecuador, do you have any suggestion on which telephoto lens I should bring regarding the light conditions? This is between a 300mm f2.8 or a 500mm f4. A 1.7x teleconverter will be coming with me and I am eager to get some footage/photo of birds behaviour etc. Do they come close to human at all? Even though I am edging towards the 500mm, but if the light is too low it would be no point for the extra reach if I can't even get a decent shutter speed. Can you give me a brief description of the condition out there please? Many thanks in advance.
I am no help here, but there are some good wildlife shooters here that may chime in. Or they may not because the thread title doesn't really look like a telephoto discussion. Maybe you could dig up an old one of those—if it has been discussed before the mods sometimes close the thread to tidy up. I'd love to see photos/videos of Ecuador when you get back.
Hi jonny, yep I sure will upload some links when I get back. Will have a look around for some advice on teles too thanks mate.
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