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Hi guys,
I'm wondering what do you think of the D200. It is not that I need a new camera since I just got my D90 two months ago. The thing is that I'm in japan right now and just saw the D200 for 20,000 yen. That is about $220 and appears to be quite cheap. The store that has it is Yodobashi Camera in Jinjuku. Anyway, I'm leaving tomorrow so I probably won't buy it. Thanks.
You should buy it if the camera works, even used that is a great deal depending on actuation count and what shape it is in
Pete
For that money you should definitely buy it …
It is actually overhauled D60 in a pro housing with everything advanced amateur would want and for much better price, and I hope it goes with Nikon international warranty just for in case.
If it's working - go for it, great price for an excellent camera.
mb - comparing d200 to d60 is like comparing neon to bmw - both have engines and steering wheel, but the ride difference is big
But adamz my neon has a big spoiler on the back and whistler tip exhaust! :)
WOO WOO
I'd use the D200 over the D90 in situations I didn't need the High ISO abilities of the latter. I prefer the controls, and it meters with all my AI lenses. Though the weight of the D90 is nice.
Damn!! I won't be able to hit the store before I leave... Should have asked before. Thanks for your responses though.
D90 is the one to get if it's between it and the D200. The controls are every bit as easy to manage, they're just placed differently. The AF system is the same and the colors and low light performance kill the D200's.
@Gentoo, I agree, but I think the OP was looking for at the D200 as a cheap second body, which I think it was a great deal for.
little bit of the topic, but anyone from US, can You please explain me how does it work; in US once You wanna buy something You need to pay local tax, this only applies if You buy in the state where You live, but once You are out of the state and You order by mail/internet You don't have to pay the tax, is that right?
I've also heard that there is a way to purchase some gear from some photo stores with the tax exception, once You are registered as a company in another state, i.e.
You have a company in Chicago and You want to buy from i.e. BH, is that true?
as it's a little bit of the topic, all of You willing to help my curiosity :) please contact me through e-mail (adam (at) zdebel (dot) pl)
@adamz, I'm not absolutely positive, but I believe it works something like this:
If you order online, and the company you order from does business in your state — that is, the company is headquartered in your state, or has retail stores in your state — then you have to pay state sales tax. If the company does not do business in your state, you don't have to pay the tax for online orders.
I would then guess that if you have a company registered in another state, it works the same way except as if you were living in that other state.
Someone correct me if I'm mistaken!
my GOD yes get it?!!!
Are you kidding?!!
I opted OVER the D90 to get my current D200 ($599 retail US) because the additional $300 (most D90's are $800) was a 50 1.4G or 35 1.8G.
Yes the D200 has horrible low-light abilities, but slap on a prime and you can get images like this at 8pm:
"@Gentoo, I agree, but I think the OP was looking for at the D200 as a cheap second body, which I think it was a great deal for."
Must have misunderstood. In that case I's say get it especially if one is on a budget. Personally I got the D90 as my second body.
"If you order online, and the company you order from does business in your state — that is, the company is headquartered in your state, or has retail stores in your state — then you have to pay state sales tax. If the company does not do business in your state, you don't have to pay the tax for online orders.
I would then guess that if you have a company registered in another state, it works the same way except as if you were living in that other state.
Someone correct me if I'm mistaken!"
Kid of sort of. The business has to be headquarter in the state I believe. Things are kind of foggy now that my state (California) has been screwing around with sales tax. When I order from Amazon, there's no tax as it's headquartered in Seattle Washington. When I order from Newegg, there is Ca. sales tax as it's headquarters are only about 100 miles from me.
"Yes the D200 has horrible low-light abilities, but slap on a prime and you can get images like this at 8pm:"
Now imagine that done with a D90 lol
I'll have to get some photos from my roommate who recently did a lot of indoor shooting at the Comicon here recently with the 35mm1.8. That lens on a D90, set at 2.8 allows shots at ISO 1000 (which is still pretty clean on the D90, horrible on the D200) and shutter speeds up to 1/250.
@gentoo- I'm pretty sure if they have retail locations in your state even if they're headquartered elsewhere, you have to pay sales tax. I never used to have to pay sales tax on Apple products when ordered online until they started opening up their retail locations, and now I do.
@shivaswrath - I agree with your pushing for fast lenses, and I love my D200, but the D90 allows for a lot more in low light with fast glass (and the D700 much more)
Tai, Amazon.com and Newegg.com are internet only. Personally, I feel sites like these are the best to buy from as you will usually get the best prices from them and very often the shipping may be free. Retail establishments IMO are not places to buy things like DSLR cameras.
I think you're missing my point, gentoo, I was merely using that as an example to illustrate how I think the tax law works. I used to be able to buy things from Apple's online store tax free until they opened up retail locations in my state, now if I order things online from them, I have to pay sales taxes.
In any case I normally buy new camera equipment from B&H due to excellent customer service and warrantee.
I wasn't missing your point, I was simply stating another point.
tai - and imagine if You could buy from BH without paying taxes and doing the shopping in their shop - is it possible? if so, can someone post a solution - either here or privately :)
thanks everyone for clearing this up for me
I think your both right tai and Gentoo. I personally prefer to buy locally. Not just because I want to support my community, but buying an item like a dslr is a very personal choice. I have to pick it up and try it out before I buy. What's a good match for someone may not be right for me and the only way to know for sure is to browse in person.
But I do buy things like lenses online all the time. Lenses and accessories are less "personal" and more about finding the right tool for the job kinda of a thing.
adamz to sum it up your understanding is basically correct. Except for the company in another state. Same rules apply (more or less) to a company as they do to an individual unless your company is a non-profit. Like a church or educational facility or government office. In which case you don't pay tax at all no matter what state the company or the retailer reside in. And as far as browsing BH and not paying tax it's possible only if you intend to leave the country with the item. I'm not sure how it works exactly but you can get the amount paid in tax back but only after you purchase the item with tax. You have to provide your receipt at a brokerage kinda place that will pay you back the tax.
Well to stop from further hijacking seba316's original post... I'd personally hold off on buying a D200 even as a back up. I was tempted when the D200 was on sale locally for $599US but passed. My reasoning was that I'd rather invest the money in a newer model that gives me better performance. But that's just me :-)
I couldn't make it to the store so no chance to think about buying it... anyway, just got back home and found that the 35mm 1.8G had finally arrived! Soooo happy!! It took about 4 weeks to ship from amazon.
"imagine if You could buy from BH without paying taxes and doing the shopping in their shop - is it possible?"
You would have to be in a state that doesn't charge sales tax. That's if I'm understanding you correctly.
Nikoboy:
You're right about picking one up and holding it. It took me four months to buy my D300. I researched it and read almost 200 reviews. Then I went into a local camera shot to hold one and take a good look at it. However, the local places wanted 200 dollars more for it. Therefore I ordered mine from Amazon.
Comparing D200 to D60 is like comparing Mercedes B170 to A170, more or less same engine, but for the half the price you would definitely go for larger and more comfortable B series right?
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