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Hello,
After a long photo session on a remote location, I found out that most of the shots have a wrong WB settings.
Is it possible to copy the WB from one NEF file into another?
The WB is a custom preset WB captured by the camera for IR photography. I noticed that most of the tools do not allow to go down to IR WB settings.
Thanks in advance
what post production software do you use ?
with Lightroom it is very easy
In the develop module
correct one
select all
hit Sync button
tick W/B
and its done
That is why I love Lightroom!
Yeah love the synch feature on LR.
Only problem I am having with it is inconsistency of colour compare to VN2. Sometimes it is pretty accurate, other time it just way off.
sevencrossing said:
what post production software do you use ?with Lightroom it is very easy
In the develop module
correct one
select all
hit Sync button
tick W/Band its done
I tried with Nikon Capture 4.4 (yes, the old one), with Nikon ViewNX2, Photoshop CS3.
I will try with Lightroom as you mentioned.
What I want to do, is to copy the WB that exists on one photo into a bunch of photos I took on the same series before I noticed that I had a bad custom WB settings.
The custom WB was done by using the camera to measure it, by pointing the camera to a neutral green piece of ground (grass under the sun), with the Hoya R72 filter on and measure a custom WB.
The tools usually copy the fixes, not the settings.. (or I'm wrong?).
The additional problem (that I had with all the tools) is that you can not set the temperature in the WB below the logical limits the manufacturers gave, usually Infrared WB is below these values.
I guess that this problem will lead me to write a program that will do that, although currently I do not have the spare time to deal with it. (I guess I can get the NEF file format from somewhere in the Internet, if you have any information regarding NEF files format that can help me, drop me a note, or here in this thread or via a PM)
Have a nice day to all.
I THINK
LR3 will ignore the camera WB and just work on the, selected, original RAW file
Click on the candidate first , then the others, In Grid view the candidate will highlighted
I just gave a try in LR3.
First of all, I see that the IR photos are slightly different as displayed by ViewNX, or Nikon Capture 4.4 or when I open the RAW file with CS3.
Copying the WB settings in LR3 from one photo into another does not the job as I expect.
LR3 copies the WB changes the user has done on a photo and does not copy the original WB settings the camera stored on a photo. The only way to copy a WB settings in LR, is to set the WB to custom on the good photo (without doing any other manipulation), then copy the WB settings via Settings -> Copy Settings dialog (marking only WB), go to the target photo and paste the settings... but for some weird reason, it does not like my IR settings. :(
Question: What is the WB temperature and Tint of a well exposed IR photo taken on a Sunny16 situation?.
That is, if you open in LR3 a raw photo taken with an IR filter. (before any other manipulation you do like levels and channel swapping.
Thanks in advance.
Yeah I have the same issue with IR as well. I just figured that the program is designed with limits for regular photography and since IR really pulls to the extremes or when you cross channels it is outside the parameter limits of the program. Many software packages have this issue.
@TaoTeJared: I just played a little bit with RawTherapee under a Linux(Ubuntu) environment, and it seems that it allows to play with WB below 2000K.
I did not see an option that allows to copy the WB custom settings, but I guess that a learning curve is required with this free tool. (Looks similar to LR3).
Just wanted to update you with this findings...
Linux - The whole reason I have never done anything other than play with Linux distros is because of my photography. I have just used Gimp but others I have looked at seem to be fairly good but for my photos, I really don't have time to learn a whole new environment and I find it worth the cost to buy PC or Apple.
It will be interesting to hear how it works though. I have been wanting to find some new software for my IR.
TaoTeJared said:
Linux - The whole reason I have never done anything other than play with Linux distros is because of my photography. I have just used Gimp but others I have looked at seem to be fairly good but for my photos, I really don't have time to learn a whole new environment and I find it worth the cost to buy PC or Apple.
Back in the 80s or early 90s I was an expert Unix user, my friends called "Another Unix Hacker".. then I left for embedded programming using other platforms.. and when digital photography started, I had at home only M$Windows PCs, therefore I used the tools I could get/purchase for playing with photos as a nice hobby. Now, in my new workplace (in Given Imaging), I went back to Linux and I was surprised that the tools over there are not so behind as I thought... but still, I agree with you that it may not be appropriated to do the switch, tools are not still mature for me over there.
I still think that is to early to leave the PC world and move into Linux for my digital photography games..
TaoTeJared said:
It will be interesting to hear how it works though. I have been wanting to find some new software for my IR.
That is the reason I'm giving a try, at least I will have an alternative to do some raw fixes on my corrupted IR photos..
BTW, I just went to the RawTherapee site and they also have binaries for Micro$oft Windows and for Mac.. .. but I'm not sure how stable they are.
I saw that! Depending on the D400/D800 release, I need to update my computer systems as well in the next 18 months. Apple will be one for sure but I will still have my PC box that will need a new life - maybe it's time for a dual boot again.
There is light at the end of the tunnel with Adobe tools and IR photography, read here: http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_Profiles:Editor#Tutorial_4:_Infrared-Modified_Cameras_and_Unusual_Lighting (or Google for "Tutorial 4: Infrared-Modified Cameras and Unusual Lighting")
Just wanted to share my findings..
Have a nice day!
Thanks for posting the info. I hope it comes!
Just while there is mention of Linux here:
UFRaw:
http://ufraw.sourceforge.net/
diyphotobits.com - tethered shooting app for Nikon. Works with my D7000 perfectly.
http://www.diyphotobits.com/2008/05/23/free-tethered-shooting-script-for-nikon/
Hey there, thanks for all the great leads guys (and gals)! rbid, that adobe link you provided is excellent, but I am shooting IR video with my D7000, rather than stills. Does anyone know of a way to reproduce these WB settings on video files, either in photoshop, after effects, or FCP X? Right now I am merely shooting with an unmodified D7000 with a Hoya R72 filter, but I plan on modifying my friend's D7000 (with his permission) for IR shooting in the near future. Any advice or leads would be hugely appreciated. Thanks everyone.
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