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  1. TaoTeJared

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    bjrichus said:
    I personally use Postimage ...

    On a slightly different issue if I may, I wonder if any of these services for image sharing is less or more likely to be where people find they get pictures ripped off?

    Without doing a forum search, I wonder if this is a new topic?

    Please NOOOOOOOO! ;) lol

    Actually I was thinking of two ideas:
    1) Wondering if Brands use drive what sharing sites users use the most. (Hypothetical example: Do Canon users use Pbase more and Nikon users use Flickr more.)

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    2) Considering a world view, certain brands do sell better in different parts of the world/countries. In different parts of the world/countries do they have a stronger preference towards particular sharing sites. (Hypothetical example: Nikon sells better in the UK and UK users are more apt to use Flickr. Canon sells more in the US and US users are more apt to use Facebook rather than Flickr.)

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    Ade Barkah said:
    @shutterdancer:

    Yes I'm aware of EXIF and data collection mechanisms, etc.

    All I'm pointing out is that the Flickr data as presented counts use by "percentage of members", and NOT "share of pictures". I'll highlight the relevant portion of the top-line statistics below:

    What does "% of members" mean?

    TechCrunch says that stat means "the most popular camera used in terms of pictures taken that are uploaded to Flickr". Wrong. We'd need camera models correlated to number of pictures taken (not simply % of members) to get that stat.

    Adamz says that stat means "they count what camera model submits most of the pictures". That's the intuitive conclusion but also incorrect, equivalent to TechCrunch's interpretation above. The stat has nothing to do with which camera submits the most pictures.

    It might well be that the iPhone is the most popular camera on Flickr in terms of number of pictures taken. Unfortunately, we CANNOT conclude that fact from the statistics we have so far.

    This debate is starting to get a bit outlandish....I know that I'm an old fart.....but have they stopped teaching reading comprehension in schools lately?

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  3. bjrichus

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    TaoTeJared said:
    Please NOOOOOOOO! ;) lol

    OK, point taken! ;)

    You remarks about geographical issues is very well made (to me anyway).

    We certainly do see a cultural bias in product design and use, which will come as no surprise to anyone with a marketing background. If you have traveled the world any (I know many of us here have), then you will know how different "favorite" things are in different places. Some countries/cultures/continents seem to prefer pastel colors, or perhaps bland colors or maybe even primary colors, rounded edges not sharp edges etc on exactly the same thing.

    This also extends to software.

    I have a career which over 35 years, has seen 50% of my time working in universities and several (15?) years ago I recall a GUI design course (about the items like graphic entities on screens - lines, corners etc) were called "widgets", which is a term that has taken on a different additional meaning these days. I remember one of the lecturers going on at incredible length about this.

    He had a printed book (yes, really - it was a huge one of those bound paper media printed with ink things and sold in stores - LOL), which was a catalog of different character sets, preferred colors and layouts for use in different parts of the world. The thing was HUGE and had been deeply researched and was the subject of lots of post-graduate work. Amazing stuff!

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    Whoops... Double post.

    Hope the new version of the forum software will have the ability to delete your own posts...

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    bjrichus said:
    It's photographically a low quality device, used primarily by the 'unwashed' majority (by which I mean the great masses - simply because there are so many more untrained people than trained people), to produce (mostly) pictures that are snap shot in quality and scope. Poor composition, bad color balance, no reflectors to counter too deep shadows, the list goes on...

    Now don't get me wrong... I'm not saying that the iPhone is somehow "bad" or insulting the great god Steve Jobs or anything, just that compared to the average dSLR...

    Ok?

    (some Apple Fanbois need to be told this or else they get all huffy)... ;-)

    Chill.

    I'm a bit late on this discussion but here's my idea-

    If your composition is going to be terrible, a D7000 isn't going to save your rear end. It makes no difference.

    Also, transferring and sharing images from an iPhone is way easier than transferring and sharing from a DSLR, which is why it's more popular. If it were easier to share photos, I would bet other cameras would be up there too.

    Besides, many people have an iPhone, but not everyone has a DSLR.

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  6. bjrichus

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    NSXType-R said:
    If your composition is going to be terrible, a D7000 isn't going to save your rear end. It makes no difference.

    That's true.

    NSXType-R said:
    Also, transferring and sharing images from an iPhone is way easier than transferring and sharing from a DSLR, which is why it's more popular. If it were easier to share photos, I would bet other cameras would be up there too.

    That's also true.

    It also something that speaks to the core of the issue - what is easier for non-photographers to do is going to sell the product, rather than anything photographic in nature... "Oh look - that picture of the baby is so cute." Never mind the poor composition (smile), lens flare, color cast, shake, or that it is out of focus...

    You and I (and most others here) know better, but for most consumers, mediocre results are just fine and *that's* why it's so sad.

    NSXType-R said:
    Besides, many people have an iPhone, but not everyone has a DSLR.

    High quantity is not a reliable indicator of high quality... but I do hear what you are saying, sheer market momentum means there will be more low-end camera phone pictures than anything else and that means we will see (on a quantity comparison alone) Nikon, Canon, etc as losers in that particular race.

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    NikoDoby said:
    I think consumer DSLRs and point & shoots really need built-in wireless connectivity to keep up with the next gen of high megapixel mobile phones.

    http://www.flickr.com/cameras/

    Whenever anyone asks the question of what features you want added to DSLR's, I've been saying for a few years now that bluetooth would be nice. Now, mobile phone instant flickr sharing goes beyond that. When will the real cameras step it up? I think most DSLR users who get paid to do shoots, would rather look over their shot on a computer or large screen prior to sending it to a client, but what's the excuse for P&S's? Seems like that would have been the way to go already.

    With camera phones as good as say the Nokia N8, it almost makes some point and shoots obsolete.

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    No doubt more cameras will be wireless.

    Specifically on Flickr, however, the proportion of people I know who upload mobile phone pictures to Flickr is virtually zero. Yup, practically none.

    Instead, mobile phone pictures are going to Facebook, instagram, twitpic, tumblr and the like.

    If I were Flickr, I'd be worried. Very worried.

    Ironically, in the long term small dedicated cameras might well live on (with various enhancements); it is Flickr which may languish.

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    shutterdancer said:
    This debate is starting to get a bit outlandish....I know that I'm an old fart.....but have they stopped teaching reading comprehension in schools lately?

    In 10 years working as an analyst I have seen a general understanding of statistics out of college grads become weaker and weaker. Talking to friends who teach math in schools tell me maybe a Jr in high school may get two weeks of Stats. I think it is really sad - especially since I learned Stats in 7th grade. School boards and politics seem to be tying the teachers hands in what they can teach. There seems to be (my experience in the US) a shift that statistics are somehow made up and are just opinions not factual, scientifically gathered information.

    bjrichus said:
    He had a printed book (yes, really - it was a huge one of those bound paper media printed with ink things and sold in stores - LOL), which was a catalog of different character sets, preferred colors and layouts for use in different parts of the world. The thing was HUGE and had been deeply researched and was the subject of lots of post-graduate work. Amazing stuff!

    That actually sounds quite interesting. Oh and I do remember what a "Widget" used to be as well. ;)

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    TaoTeJared said:
    That actually sounds quite interesting. Oh and I do remember what a "Widget" used to be as well. ;)

    That book was at least 16x20 in size and several hundred pages. It was something that in today's world would be very un-PC. Things like defining the "correct" mix of colors for printing pink for female (which was subtly different in tone from one continent to another) and so on... Wish I had a copy now... ;-)

    As for 'Widget' (I think) it was something stolen from the realm of economics, meaning any kind of significant component to a device or gadget, specifically, something that can get used in several places. I first came upon the use of the term when I was learning to program on the GEM graphical user interface in the late 1980's. ... OUCH! Nearly 25 years ago!!! How time flies when you are having fun!!! ;-)

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  11. shutterdancer

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    TaoTeJared said:
    In 10 years working as an analyst I have seen a general understanding of statistics out of college grads become weaker and weaker. Talking to friends who teach math in schools tell me maybe a Jr in high school may get two weeks of Stats. I think it is really sad - especially since I learned Stats in 7th grade. School boards and politics seem to be tying the teachers hands in what they can teach. There seems to be (my experience in the US) a shift that statistics are somehow made up and are just opinions not factual, scientifically gathered information.

    Amen brother!

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