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(Oil Sprayed On) D7000 (Sensor)

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  1. Hidalgo

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    Good morning gosaria Relto a problem that is happening to the D7000.
    This oil is sprayed on the sensor.
    Ja researched on forums and was confirmed by other users.
    What will be the attitude of the workshop on the incident nikon

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  2. NikoDoby

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    Did you clean the sensor before? Might it be residue from the cleaning agent that was used? Does it effect your photos?

    Send it back to Nikon. They will clean it up for you.

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  3. Hidalgo

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    I'm am waiting the response from the store to see if avera exchange or assistance.
    The problem is that the assistance of my closest house is 600 km
    Cleaning procedure did not sure that something of the machine

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  4. rbid

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    Hidalgo said:
    I'm am waiting the response from the store to see if avera exchange or assistance.
    The problem is that the assistance of my closest house is 600 km
    Cleaning procedure did not sure that something of the machine

    Did the camera came to you like this or did you tried to clean it and the result was oil on the sensor?

    Oil cam come from cleaning the sensor with canned air (some canned air contain oil passed by the compressor used to fill the cans.) or by using a cloth that had some oil.

    If the camera came with that dirty sensor, return it.

    Read here, it is a nice thread also related to cleaning the sensor: http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=3524
    - First try the dry method, but with a "Giotto Rocket Blower" (Do not use a cheap one)
    - If this does not help and you want to take the risk, use the "copperhill method" (on your own risk).

    Good luck.

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  5. casperwb

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    guys, I think dust is being interperted as oil, by people who are not aware of what dust looks like.

    my two cents:

    there are complaints that this is on the D7000 and they did not have the problem on their lower end Nikon cameras, this is a result of wanting that 16.2 mega camera that is going to show dust more than a 10 megapixel unit.

    you are just going to have to learn to deal with dust, either how to clean it from the filter, or how to remove it with post processing.

    options:
    use self cleaning at startup and shutdown, make sure the camera is in the correct position or the dust will end up to one side,

    get a good blower

    learn to clean the filter yourself,

    pay to have it done,

    learn to post process it out when it shows up.

    by the way, has anyone seen the fantastic Nikon D3 with monster lens being used at the French open...........ooooooooooooooh

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  6. NikoDoby

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    casperwb said:
    has anyone seen the fantastic Nikon D3 with monster lens being used at the French open...........ooooooooooooooh

    ???!!!

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  7. Michael DeRose

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    yes pic of the nikon at the match please

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  8. casperwb

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    sorry guys, I do not have a picture,

    was taking in the match with Nadal and there was this lady photographer that they highlighted, with a D3, I do not know what lens she was using, but it was a monster, on a monopod, all black, it was a thing of beauty.

    both the lens and camera and the photographer.

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  9. SimoHDK

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    So which one of these :p

    http://forums.sgclub.com/singapore/top_10_most_257023.html

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  10. casperwb

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    SimoHDK said:
    So which one of these :p

    http://forums.sgclub.com/singapore/top_10_most_257023.html

    very nice post Simo, it looked like the Nikon 600

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  11. kshoni

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    It may be the initial burst of the air blown on the sensor from blower/air pressure can.
    any service center can clean thisup

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  12. rbid

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    kshoni said:
    It may be the initial burst of the air blown on the sensor from blower/air pressure can.
    any service center can clean thisup

    It is dangerous to clean the sensor with air pressure can:
    = Some cans contains air that have oil particles
    = The pressure can do damage on the mechanics of the camera (I see the mirror spring flying off the camera)
    Also if you use a blower, use a good one, due that cheap blowers also will add some rubber particles in your sensor. (This I tell you from personal experience)
    .. I'm not so rich to buy cheap...

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  13. DutchNikon

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    Agree totally with RBID, nothing like a good blower.. I like the vissible Dust ZEEION on, because its got in-and out stream filters so you do not suck up dust to subsequently blow it ito yor cam with it...
    It ain't cheap, but it works a treat to me..

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  14. Hidalgo

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    Was asked to send the machine shop, but not stated that it would be replaced by another.
    I have 99.9% certainty that the fault of the machine and I say this because I had a D3000 and never had this problem, after two years of photography experience overall I think I have enough to take care of equipment.
    Thanks

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  15. Hidalgo

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    If not changed the machine I'm thinking of doing the cleaning censor myself, I intend to use methanol.
    WHAT you guys think of this?

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  16. TaoTeJared

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    It does not sound smart to me. Depending on coatings, methanol can eat away a hell of a lot stuff that you didn't intend to. If you have oil, it really is best to send it to Nikon to take care of it. Cheaper too - especially if something goes wrong.

    Look up "Smear Away" from VisibleDust. They make the Arctic Butterfly as well. I have been to a handful of shops that use and swear by this system. I don't think you need a full system so it may cost $120usd (they ship every where in the world.) A full "Pro" kit of theirs is $400+ but that is what the shops have to handle anything.

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  17. Keith Moseley

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    The problem is real and it isn't dust. I bought a D7000 4 weeks ago and immediately fitted a 28-300mm zoom. It never came off and so no dust had a chance to get in. I was therefore surprised to see circular out of focus smudges on my images, mainly in the bottom right corner. I then took a de-focused shot at high aperture number of a sheet of white paper. Sure enough I found about 30 circular dark blobs showing in the image (see image at http://www.flickr.com/photos/imagined_horizons/5795633705/in/photostream). One had a halo around it, suggesting liquid. I looked on the internet and found other D7000 users with the same thing. I've returned my D7000 for a refund and won't buy another until I can establish whether this is common or rare. Nikon won't say and I wonder how many of us have yet to discover the problem; I didn't at first. I don't want to have to return another D7000 and the nearest Nikon service centre is just too far away...so I'm holding off for now.

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  18. casperwb

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    Keith Moseley said:
    The problem is real and it isn't dust. I bought a D7000 4 weeks ago and immediately fitted a 28-300mm zoom. It never came off and so no dust had a chance to get in. I was therefore surprised to see circular out of focus smudges on my images, mainly in the bottom right corner. I then took a de-focused shot at high aperture number of a sheet of white paper. Sure enough I found about 30 circular dark blobs showing in the image (see image at http://www.flickr.com/photos/imagined_horizons/5795633705/in/photostream). One had a halo around it, suggesting liquid. I looked on the internet and found other D7000 users with the same thing. I've returned my D7000 for a refund and won't buy another until I can establish whether this is common or rare. Nikon won't say and I wonder how many of us have yet to discover the problem; I didn't at first. I don't want to have to return another D7000 and the nearest Nikon service centre is just too far away...so I'm holding off for now.

    yes it is dust

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  19. rbid

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    Agree with casperwb.
    Your shot was taken at f/25, which will show all dust on your camera. I guess that if you do the same with other digital cameras, you may find also some dust in the sensor. The spots may not visible if you do take photos with a faster aperture (below f/8).

    For checking when to clean the camera I do: (before/after sensor cleaning)
    - Put the camera in aperture mode ("A").
    - If it is a zoom lens, use the largest focal length (usually it has the smallest F number)
    - Close the diaphragm to the largest F number. (f/39?)
    - Use manual focus to infinite.
    - Set to a fixed ISO (100)
    - Use a white smooth wall with the camera located at 1 feet (30cm),
    - No flash, no shadows on the wall
    I guess it will take longer than 1sec for the exposure time, during that time, move the camera (to blur any detail on the wall).

    Look on the result, you may use the on-board display by zooming and panning the resulting shot, but it is best to download the photo to your computer and do an Auto-levels operation.. and walla, you will see all the dots accentuated.

    Remember, these dots will be visible only using a large F-Number (Above f/16).. or if you have elephants on your sensor, they may be visible at f/8 already.

    I do this before cleaning the camera, and if dots appear, I use a "Giotto Rocket Blower" to clean it (google videos and you will find a lot of tutorials how to do it), and I re-check after cleaning as well.

    Good Luck.

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  20. NikoDoby

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    Keith that's dust not oil. Your photo was taken at F25! Any little spec will appear as a huge blob at that aperture. Even if you never take your lens off your camera dust will still get sucked in because very few lenses are sealed. Whenever you zoom in or out with the 28-300mm dust will get sucked into your camera through the openings of the lens like a straw.

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  21. Keith Moseley

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    I was not surprised by the replies that followed my original posting. I got the same on Flickr...it must be dust...and, by implication, it must be your fault and not Nikon's. Evidence is mounting to the contrary.

    No, it isn't dust; the spots are all round, the spots are much larger than typical dust motes, the spots are concentrated in one corner of the sensor (all victims of D7000 oilers find this, the spots appear mainly bottom right of images) and some of the spots have rings around them. Also, the camera had no change of lens from the time I started using it to the time I sent it back. I agree that zooms suck in air but I've been using cameras for years and I have never seen 30 spots appear in a few weeks and nearly all in one corner of the image. My other DSLR has fewer spots after 3 years of use and the spots are essentially randomly scattered, as one would expect. Something else, which is often overlooked, I live in Britain where dust is usually kept firmly on the ground by continuous rainfall! Seriously, apart from house dust, we really don't see a lot of dust here.

    To answer some further points; the spots appear smaller, albeit darker, on higher f numbers, not larger...because they are better focused. At lower f numbers they diffuse into large grey blobs and can be distinctly seen right down to f4. It isn't a pixel-peeping issue then.

    Thanks for the advice about imaging contaminants on the sensor using a plain surface and high f number. Someone looking in may find this useful but following the link in my original post will show I have already done this. I had the same on Flickr; people telling me how to do something I had already done. Well meant and thanks anyway.

    Some D7000 users have some real beauties on their sensors and I advise a look at these webpages:

    http://www.flickr.com/groups/d7000-oil-on-sensor

    and

    http://www.flickr.com/groups/d7000-club/discuss/72157625681752931/

    By the way, Canon had the same problem with the EOS 1 MkIII but they came clean (no pun intended). See:

    http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/news/EOS_oil_spots.do

    This is my last word on the matter. Go look for yourselves. Most will find nothing, I hope.

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  22. casperwb

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    Keith Moseley said:
    I was not surprised by the replies that followed my original posting. I got the same on Flickr...it must be dust...and, by implication, it must be your fault and not Nikon's. Evidence is mounting to the contrary.

    No, it isn't dust; the spots are all round, the spots are much larger than typical dust motes, the spots are concentrated in one corner of the sensor (all victims of D7000 oilers find this, the spots appear mainly bottom right of images) and some of the spots have rings around them. Also, the camera had no change of lens from the time I started using it to the time I sent it back. I agree that zooms suck in air but I've been using cameras for years and I have never seen 30 spots appear in a few weeks and nearly all in one corner of the image. My other DSLR has fewer spots after 3 years of use and the spots are essentially randomly scattered, as one would expect. Something else, which is often overlooked, I live in Britain where dust is usually kept firmly on the ground by continuous rainfall! Seriously, apart from house dust, we really don't see a lot of dust here.

    To answer some further points; the spots appear smaller, albeit darker, on higher f numbers, not larger...because they are better focused. At lower f numbers they diffuse into large grey blobs and can be distinctly seen right down to f4. It isn't a pixel-peeping issue then.

    Thanks for the advice about imaging contaminants on the sensor using a plain surface and high f number. Someone looking in may find this useful but following the link in my original post will show I have already done this. I had the same on Flickr; people telling me how to do something I had already done. Well meant and thanks anyway.

    Some D7000 users have some real beauties on their sensors and I advise a look at these webpages:

    http://www.flickr.com/groups/d7000-oil-on-sensor

    and

    http://www.flickr.com/groups/d7000-club/discuss/72157625681752931/

    By the way, Canon had the same problem with the EOS 1 MkIII but they came clean (no pun intended). See:

    http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/news/EOS_oil_spots.do

    This is my last word on the matter. Go look for yourselves. Most will find nothing, I hope.

    It is so sad that these people know everything.

    It is a waste of time trying tell them it is dust, because other people post of the web that it is oil, and they are convinced in their head that it is oil.

    tilt the camera everytime you turn it on and the dst will collect on that side when the camera self cleans.

    you may have been using cameras for years, but, not a camera with so many pixels jammed in to such a small space.

    Oh well additional post will just fuel the fire, so if you think the camera has a problem with oil, just return it, get a point and shoot, it will never have dust.

    dont buy a Ferrari, it is too fast, you will just crash it, maybe they should ban all sports cars. It is the cars that cause accidents, not the people.

    same with cameras, it is the camera at fault, not peoples understanding of them and how they work. everyone who has a DSLR will have to clean the sensor filter or have it cleaned some time.

    the higer the resolution, the more the cleaning.

    never argue witha fool, people may not be able to tell who is the real fool.

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  23. iris chrome

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    Let me just start by saying I'm sorry if I offend anyone and if I do it certainly is not my intention here but I do think that Keith MIGHT have a valid point in regards to the spots being oil albeit he's probably blowing things out of proportions a little bit.

    It is entirely possible that his D7000 has somehow gotten some oil in it during production or is leaking oil from one of it's internal components. The fact that he got this many "spots" after only a few weeks (probably a month since he was still able to return his D7000) supports this especially since he never changed lenses. Yes, true that zooms do suck-in a certain amount of dust from the air but to cause this many spots within less than a month? I doubt that. Also, the fact that this occurred with the Canon 1D and 1Ds line speaks about the possibility of the spots actually being oil spots. Also reportedly somewhere some time, Pentax users complained about this problem too.

    However, all this is just one single defective D7000 within a small batch of other defective D7000's within oh so many beautiful and fully functional D7000's. I use a D7000 myself so I should know. I've owned it for three months now and I'm always changing the lenses. I've changed lenses indoors as well as outdoors. So far I can only see two little specks of dust that are barely visible even at f/22.

    Keith, my recommendation to you is to buy and try another D7000. The D7000 is one kick@ss camera, it's such a shame to dismiss it after one bad defective unit. After all, defects do happen with all brands and makes nowadays (sad but true) and your case is nothing more than that.

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  24. CassiusRoads

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    I can tell the difference between oil and dust. I own a D200, which sometimes gets dust on the sensor, never oil - I clean it with a blower or an arctic butterfly. My father owns a D7000, I thought he had dust spots in his photos, so I went to clean the sensor and it was very clearly oil after the blower didn't work and the arctic butterfly smudged a drop of oil - dust doesn't smudge. Looking at the photos again I can see the difference between dust spots and oil spots as well. He took it in for a warranty cleaning - but it happened again - so they sent it to a Nikon service centre and it has been okay since - hopefully the problem is fixed. Maybe some people are confusing dust for oil, but what I know is that my father's D7000 had oil on the sensor - so I'm inclined to believe other people who have reported this issue. I've heard of this occurring with the D3, so I don't consider it a great stretch of the imagination that some D7000s somehow flick oil onto the sensor.

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  25. casperwb

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    rabbits

    here we go again, I thought it was not possible to add anything to this discussion.

    I had what looks like oil on my sensor filter.

    using the in camera cleaning did not help

    using the blower brush did not help

    wet cleaning did remove it and it has not reappeared.

    It is my belief that the very high resolution packed into the small sensor is causing the dust particles to show up in different ways.

    some like black spots and some like drops of oil or moisture when the camera photographs light backgrounds.

    you guys should do one of the following:

    a] learn to clean your sensor filter.

    b] buy cameras with lower resolution

    c] stick with sealed point and shoot cameras.

    about using the Atric Butterfly, if it is not clean, or you touched it by mistake, or came back for a second or third swipe, then you are going to get results that look smudged.

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