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Nikkor 50mm 1.8 AF-S

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  1. jerl

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    Well, lenses with spherical elements can have spherical aberration which often manifests itself as a cloudy, low-contrast image (since an ideal perfect lens shape is not quite spherical, but spherical lenses are MUCH easier to make). In the 150 years or so of lens design, lens designers have figured out ways to use multiple spherical elements to reduce spherical aberration, so it's not as big of a deal than it used to be. Still, though, aspherical elements are still necessary in many lens designs (every modern ultra-wide zoom has at least 1 aspherical element), and a quite a few high quality wide-aperture lenses have them too (the very expensive Leica ASPH lenses come to mind). Letting the lens designers use an aspherical element gives them another variable to play with to optimize the lens design, and could improve the overall quality- not only in terms of resolution, but also correcting other aberrations.

    But ultimately, it will be the performance of the lens that will determine whether or not it is better or not. Having an aspherical element is not a guarantee it will be sharper. It is a guarantee that it will be more expensive though.

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  2. poster

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    Interesting. Thanks for schooling me up on this, much appreciated.

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  3. TaoTeJared

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    Agreed, just makes the design sharper than without it, but not necessarily sharper than a lens without an aspherical element. It also can allow for fewer lens elements saving cost, size and complexity. The new 1.8 has 7 Lens Elements in Lens Groups 6 where the 1.4G has 8 Lens Elements in 7 Lens Groups.

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  4. casperwb

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    Amazon is now taking pre orders

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  5. alchse

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    Not sure weather to get this or try to find the 50mm 1.4 AF (non S) for under $300?

    Or just get the 50mm 1.8 af (non s) for around $100

    Decisions decisions

    Any thoughts?

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  6. 88888888

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    Do people that preorder faster, get their ordre earlier on amazon?

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  7. shivaswrath

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    the faster you place a pre-order, the quicker you'll get (they usually drop ship the same day). . .

    when I pre-ordered the 50 1.4G back in the day,
    I placed it with JR and Amazon. . .I got it from JR first, and cancelled Amazon, it took longer. . .

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  8. NikoDoby

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    88888888 said:
    Do people that preorder faster, get their ordre earlier on amazon?

    A pre-order guarantees nothing. Just read through some of the discussions in this thread when people pre-ordered the D7000:

    http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=2643

    People who walk into a store usually get the item before those who pre-order online. However sometimes it's the other way around and pre-orders ship first. You just never really know for sure.

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  9. TaoTeJared

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    alchse said:
    Not sure weather to get this or try to find the 50mm 1.4 AF (non S) for under $300?
    Or just get the 50mm 1.8 af (non s) for around $100

    As long as your body has the AF motor to drive the lens then either are a good buy. I like the 1.4 more because of the bokeh but the 1.8 might be a better investment since it will probably sell used for almost the same you purchased it for. And you could have it now rather than months down the road.

    The new 1.8 will be very hard to come by for probably 6 months if not more even if the earthquake didn't happen. This will be a very popular lens for sure.

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  10. kanuck

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    This lens has a new auto focus motor so depending on the camera you have now the choice is up to you. This G lens will work on all current DSLRs. Its super cheap too which is amazing for a G series lens. I agree with you TaoTeJared that baring any barrel or sharpness problems, this might be one of Nikon's best selling lenses for years to come. Possibly an instant classic. The D should be in the hall of fame thats for sure.

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  11. alchse

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    TaoTeJared said:
    As long as your body has the AF motor to drive the lens then either are a good buy. I like the 1.4 more because of the bokeh but the 1.8 might be a better investment since it will probably sell used for almost the same you purchased it for. And you could have it now rather than months down the road.

    The new 1.8 will be very hard to come by for probably 6 months if not more even if the earthquake didn't happen. This will be a very popular lens for sure.

    yeah...my camera has a motor.....might as well use it and get a non S lens for less....right?

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  12. gelu88

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    NikoDoby said:
    A pre-order guarantees nothing. Just read through some of the discussions in this thread when people pre-ordered the D7000:

    http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=2643

    People who walk into a store usually get the item before those who pre-order online. However sometimes it's the other way around and pre-orders ship first. You just never really know for sure.

    Good point, but i would imagine that it will be much less of an issue with a consumer prime than a blockbuster body.

    made in thailand or china anyway, supplies should be relatively plentiful.

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  13. TaoTeJared

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    alchse said:
    yeah...my camera has a motor.....might as well use it and get a non S lens for less....right?

    There are a lot of great deals on the AFD lenses. 50mm, 60mm, 85mm 1.8 and the older 105mm all are surpurb and can be had each for around $250-400 on ebay!

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    gelu88 said:
    Good point, but i would imagine that it will be much less of an issue with a consumer prime than a blockbuster body.

    made in thailand or china anyway, supplies should be relatively plentiful.

    Plentiful like the 35mm f/1.8G DX lens? :|

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  15. JJump

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    Photozone just did a full frame review on this lens, and reportedly, bokeh got a little better, and border resolution improved. However, center resolution doesn't quite reach as high at mid apertures as the D does, and the barrel distortion (which was next to nothing on the D at .3 %) jumped to 1.1%. I'd personally rather have sharper center and lower barrel distortion than slightly better bokeh and border resolution. I'm sticking with my D.

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  16. CaryTheLabelGuy

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    JJump said:
    Photozone just did a full frame review on this lens, and reportedly, bokeh got a little better, and border resolution improved. However, center resolution doesn't quite reach as high at mid apertures as the D does, and the barrel distortion (which was next to nothing on the D at .3 %) jumped to 1.1%. I'd personally rather have sharper center and lower barrel distortion than slightly better bokeh and border resolution. I'm sticking with my D.

    I wouldn't take too much stock in a single review. They could of gotten an average copy or even a pre-production copy. Of course we all care about center sharpness at mid apertures. I care even more about sharpness, wide-open. I doubt the new lens will perform worse than the 50mm 1.8D, which is VERY soft @ f/1.8 and suffers from severe ghosting and CA as well as loss of contrast, until about f/2.5-2.8, not to mention nervous/jittery bokeh(which I actually like for certain things). This is great for some artistic shots and artsy portraits, which is what I use my 50mm 1.8D for and I wouldn't trade my 50 1.8D for the world. But, I also need a 50mm 1.8 prime that I can shoot wide-open in ultra low-light, that is sharp(wide open), doesn't suffer from severe CA, ghosting and loss of contrast and has more neutral bokeh. I LOVE my 35mm 1.8G DX lens for this very reason and the new 50mm 1.8G lens should perform about the same, if not better.

    I should get my copy as soon as they ship, we shall see if am correct in my assumption that this lens will be a real winner.

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  17. JJump

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    I've never shot any lens wide open, ever, except in test shots. There's just never been a situation that I've ever needed to. Center resolution was just about the same for both lenses wide open, but the borders were better on the 1.8 G. From their test results, $200+ dollars is not going to get you much better wide open sharpness, except maybe at the borders. Also, notice that both lenses scored nearly the exact same resolution numbers at F8 for center AND border.

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  18. crocodilo

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    I'm finding my 50 1.8G quite similar to the 35 1.8G except for the following:

    - a little better bokeh;
    - less distortion;

    Quite pleased with it, sharp as a tack and reasonably fast (aperture and auto-focus). I just did a 14-hour photographic marathon with just these two lenses, and they were both a joy to use. On a D7000, the 50mm is great for portraits and street shooting (people), while the 35mm is more of a general-use lens. The primes of this focal distance give you a satisfying feeling of what-you-see-is-what-you-get while out and about on an urban scenario.

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  19. NSXType-R

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    crocodilo said:
    I'm finding my 50 1.8G quite similar to the 35 1.8G except for the following:

    - a little better bokeh;
    - less distortion;

    Quite pleased with it, sharp as a tack and reasonably fast (aperture and auto-focus). I just did a 14-hour photographic marathon with just these two lenses, and they were both a joy to use. On a D7000, the 50mm is great for portraits and street shooting (people), while the 35mm is more of a general-use lens. The primes of this focal distance give you a satisfying feeling of what-you-see-is-what-you-get while out and about on an urban scenario.

    I would seriously be more interested in this lens if it didn't come in an oddball filter size. But I guess it's not a bad bargain just for the AF-S and better performance characteristics.

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  20. PB PM

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    crocodllo, sounds good to me. If the new 50 F1.8 is as good as the 35mm it should be a dream to use.

    One thing that kind of confuses me is why it is shipping in some areas and not others?

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  21. kanuck

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    I knew it would happen there is more barrel distortion thats too bad just like with the new 50mm 1.4 G. They got lazy! And as Jjump mentioned, according to the review, the bokeh is better with better borders. The new 1.8 G is also supposed to be bigger and noticeably heavier so I might take a pass on this lens afterall. Disappointing...

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  22. PB PM

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    What did you expect? They had to put a AF-S motor in it.

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  23. crocodilo

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    It is lighter than the smaller 35 1.8. People, you're splitting hairs if you're complaning about a couple of grams on a lens of this class. Sigma 50 1.4 are the ones who should cry (although those seem to be blessed with very good IQ, from what I hear).

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  24. kanuck

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    Yes the Sigma 50mm 1.4 is huge compared to Nikons. I also heard its the best 50mm 1.4 autofocus on the market now. PBPM are you going to give this lens a shot?

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  25. PB PM

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    Yes, I have a pre-order in, just waiting for them to start shipping. Going to do a head to head comparison between it and my current F1.8D. I'm betting the old 1.8D will be on ebay within short order.

    Posted 2 years ago #

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