D5100 Announcment
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Testing123 said:
Just to be clear:
I didn't mean to say "how many older Nikon cameras..." in an insulting manner like "You must be this tall to ride", but rather as an honest question. ;)No offense taken. I understood where you were coming from (a basis of comparison, versus snark). :)
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bjrichus said:
All I can say about the video is that the samples on the nikonusa web site (as we are not to post external links, go to the product page and under the sub-heading "Full HD 1080p D-Movie with Sound", there is a link called "View D-Movie Samples") are not too shabby at all.Ok, so they had 'actors' and a crew of 36 to set it all up, but the results are not bad, or am I as a "still" photographer, not looking for the right things?
Good question. Let's see if Studio460 weighs in on this one; video's what he does for a living, so if anybody'd know...
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Vimeo is not working for me today so I haven't been able to watch this one, but its from Nikon France, they made a "movie" with the D5100 if anyone would like to see!
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Looks like a well shot video. 60fps is all I ask for...
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bj,
Nikon's video quality is about the same as Canon's, but since it doesn't shoot at 60fps, most videographers would buy the Canon if for no other reason than having the option to use it. While you might think that having autofocus is an advantage, furthermore, it's not quite ready for prime time yet. So no videographer would use it under serious conditions. Even consumers will have a problem with it because the lens motors make a noise when autofocused that's picked up by the mono mic, almost requiring them to get the external mic. And then other complications enter the picture, such as not being able to use the lcd outside without a hoodloupe and needing tripods or some stablilzing device to keep the camera steady, etc.
The bottom line is that video quality is the last issue that counts. Canon matches in video quality and has more options for serious videographers, while Panasonic has solved the autofocusing problems and is a much better buy for high end consumers or travel photographers looking for a mobile solution.
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I'm not going to judge the d5100 until I've sifted through youtube from all its video clips, amateur and professional. But it's frustrating as I'm a photo man myself, but have neither the money nor patience to either buy a dedicated video camera or wait for the next upgrade. I'm in need of an upgrade so will wait and see..
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Can the D5100 autofocus the older AF-D lenses? I don't think the 5000 could but was wondering if they upgraded this for the newer model.
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looks pretty sick imo
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just watched the official video on the nikon page.
they say there is a stereo mic, but I read on this page it's mono (what sounds ridicoules...)Posted 2 years ago # -
aslightdelay said:
Good question. Let's see if Studio460 weighs in on this one; video's what he does for a living, so if anybody'd know...I would guess that the video "quality" of the D5100 is likely similar, if not identical, to that of the D7000 (same CODEC, identical sub-sampling, etc.). All else being equal, the camera with the lowest noise, "wins." If manual ISO and shutter speed control is available on the D5100 (is it?), then, for those shooting mostly video, the D5100's moveable EVF is a huge ergonomic advantage over the D7000's fixed rear LCD screen. I haven't caught up on all the specs or demos yet, but at first glance, I would suggest that if you're a filmmaker, get the D5100. If you're mainly a still photographer, opt for the D7000.
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Studio, I have a technical question. If you're likely to need a hoodloupe outside and would probably have a tripod inside, why is the articulating screen so useful? Is it for low angle shots, etc when the camera isn't at eye level?
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@Caz: It's good for odd angles, but it's also good for discretion. If, for instance, you're doing street photography (or much of anything else where you'd rather not call attention to the fact you're taking photos), you can angle it to shoot from waist level or thereabouts rather than having to use the eyepiece.
And it can be useful even on a tripod. If you don't want to be, or can't be, behind the camera for some reason, it still allows you to see what the camera's seeing.
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TheCaz said:
Studio, I have a technical question. If you're likely to need a hoodloupe outside and would probably have a tripod inside, why is the articulating screen so useful? Is it for low angle shots, etc when the camera isn't at eye level?Mainly because you're often not shooting at a lens height which happens to be at your particular eye-level. [The following assumes all shots are from a tripod.] For example, when shooting a seated subject, you're often standing while operating, and your lens height will typically be just above the eye-level of the seated subject; which, when standing, would place your EVF somewhere between your abdomen and your sternum. In this case, you'll need to tilt the EVF upward. If the subject is standing, again, your lens height is typically just above their eyeline, and if they're taller than you, you'll need to articulate the EVF downward.
For over-the-shoulders, you'll need to adjust your lens height to either lower or raise the foreground subject's height in relation to the featured subject's height (to make one player appear taller, shorter, or the same height). The specific lens height which accommodates this relationship varies depending on the height of the two players. Of course, huge variations to the above mentioned subject/lens-height relationships are dependent on the specific dramatic or directorial intention of the shot.
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TheCaz said:
Studio, I have a technical question. If you're likely to need a hoodloupe outside and would probably have a tripod inside, why is the articulating screen so useful? Is it for low angle shots, etc when the camera isn't at eye level?I found it indespensible when needed (almost always indoor shots where space is tight), but that isn't too often. Given the choice, if I was buying a D7000, I'd choose it over video any day.
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spraynpray said:
I found it indespensible when needed (almost always indoor shots where space is tight), but that isn't too often. Given the choice, if I was buying a D7000, I'd choose it over video any day.I would say you would be amazed at how people's fat heads get in the way :x
I don't use it too often, but there have been several times I couldn't have taken the picture without a movable screen and I would assume the same for video. When holding it high or low.
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So is anyone getting this camera?
Or would you guys rather jump for the D7000?
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I should've waited for the D5100, rather than buying the D7000, since I'm now using it solely for filmmaking purposes. The articulated EVF alone is worth its weight in gold for shooting video, and is far more filmmaker-friendly than the fixed rear LCD of the D7000. I had completely forgotten about the very similar D90/D5000 product introduction sequence and timing.
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NSXType-R said:
So is anyone getting this camera?Or would you guys rather jump for the D7000?
I'm NOT worried about movies or any of the special effects (I post process effects on the computer much more accurately and under better control), so cutting those out of equation so long as the image quality is equal with the same sensor and processor, the 5100 represents better "value" (as its cheaper).
I suspect it's going to be more available due to the lower price, yes - it's cheaper, articulating screen, smaller (both good and bad, but 'just' good)... there are bad things to a 5100 too. It looks a little like a Canon, it's smaller, lighter (so is not a big masculine "pro looking" camera - both good and bad), no top screen, possible different (fewer or less accurate?) features of the processor, cluttered buttons which only makes it easier for those of us with small hands and so on.
While I will probably buy a 5100 body to replace my older 3000 backup body I really want to have an hour shooting both my 7000 and a 5100 side by side and then as long as it takes in CS5 post-processing before I decide an answer to your specific question.
But then, as I'm not a pro, it's money out of my post tax income not a tax write off or anything, so unless I can find a D7000 body for under $1000 somewhere, sometime soon...
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