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Problems with (D7000) SCENE mode??????

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  • Started 2 years ago by sjbgarden
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  1. sjbgarden

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    On the occasion that I use the sport mode, I find that the way I hold the camera , I move the main command dial and therefore constantly change the mode to close up - missing action shots. The placement of this dial is different than other Nikons and therefore I am not used to it.

    Does anyone know if there is a way to lock the mode? Yes, I was being lazy, I know I should use the P, S, A or M mode, but I was shooting a skiing event and the sun was coming in and out of the clouds and I didn't have time between racers to change things around.

    Any suggestions? THANKS!!!

    sjb

    Posted 2 years ago #
  2. scoobysmak

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    Just for your information, the title and your post does not say the type camera your having a problem with but, I did notice that this appears under the D7000. I have not played with a D7000 (yet, just got it yesterday) but nice to know I might need to look at this as well.

    Not sure if it would if that is an option or maybe similar to the other DXX00's series cameras.

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  3. JorPet

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    Not to be overly sarcastic, but you need to change the way you hold your camera.

    Just google "proper technique for holding a camera" and you will see that your left hand should never be near the mode dial while shooting.

    On a side note, I have not had any issue with it while shooting it the last week.

    P.S. - For shooting skiing try setting it to Aperture priority. Then set ISO to 200, aperture to around f/5. That should get you shutter speeds above 1/1000 in most conditions. If it is truly overcast, adjust your ISO upwards a couple stops until you see the shutter speeds you want. Typically anything approaching 1/1000 will stop skiers.

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  4. jonnyapple

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    sjbgarden said:
    Does anyone know if there is a way to lock the mode?

    Tape? ;-)

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  5. sjbgarden

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    Thank you for your input, and JorPet, thank you for the suggested settings.

    The left hand is not the problem, it is the right hand, which I hold near the "Main Command Dial" (not the "Mode Dial" on the left side). When I look up how to hold the camera, I am holding it correctly. I did not have this problem with the D5000 or the D90, just the new D7000. My husband has the same problem- so it is not just me.

    I thought of tape too :)

    Does anyone else have this problem?

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  6. jonnyapple

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    Sorry, I thought you meant the mode dial but I see you mean the rear command dial. I guess you wouldn't want to tape over that, and even in the other modes I think that will give you issues. Sorry I'm not more help.

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  7. casperwb

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    modes?

    hands moving things in error?

    I cannot duplicate the error, think you need to spend some time with someone who will show you the correct way to hold the camera.

    my suggestion :

    put it on a tripod and use a remote to trigger the shutter, that will ensure that things do not move.

    mix up a batch of epoxy and pour on the dials, blinking usless primary and secondary wheels anyway, who uses them.

    shutter piority, who needs that,

    P7000, better camera, less complicated, get one.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  8. JorPet

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    sjbgarden said:
    The left hand is not the problem, it is the right hand, which I hold near the "Main Command Dial" (not the "Mode Dial" on the left side). When I look up how to hold the camera, I am holding it correctly. I did not have this problem with the D5000 or the D90, just the new D7000. My husband has the same problem- so it is not just me.

    Hah, now I know how to change the scene modes... I hadn't really looked and had not checked the manual as I don't normally shoot in that mode. Just looked and see what you mean, and yes, I can now see how you could accidentally change it. I thought you were moving the selection dial off of the SCENE setting. My rear command dial is pretty stiff to turn though, not sure it would move without me intending it to move.

    Would still go with aperture mode (I shoot a lot of skiing). In A mode that dial is inactive, which explains why I haven't had an issue as I shoot about 80% in aperture priority.

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  9. sjbgarden

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    Casperwb- If you hold a D7000 differently than I, let me know. My right hand is on the grip - which is where is is supposed to be. If you look , the "Main Command Dial" is in the area where my thumb rests. Maybe my dial is easier to move than it should be. I bought the D7000 because it is easier to shoot in A or S mode, but under these circumstances, I had to move too quickly to make the necessary ISO adjustments. Regardless of my choices, I just wondered if anyone else had that problem and if so, how to avoid it. My husband has larger hands than I and is not comfortable in A mode, so it was more of a problem when he took over.

    JorPet, thanks again for the suggestions- shooting ski racing and ski jumping has it's challenges as you know.
    Thanks again.

    SJB

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  10. jonnyapple

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    Okay, I think I might be able to suggest something useful, sjb. Not about the dial, which sounds like it may be defective if you're familiar with the D90. My D7000's is identical to what my D90 felt like.

    Check out custom setting d3 (ISO display and adjustment). I keep it set to "Show ISO/easy ISO". Not only does this let you see the ISO value displayed in the viewfinder instead of pictures remaining, it also lets you adjust ISO sensitivity with the 'other' command dial—the one that's not controlling aperture or shutter speed when you're in A or S, respectively.

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  11. JorPet

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    Another option is how I keep my D700 and D7K.

    Under the Shooting Menu > ISO sensitivity settings > Auto ISO sensitivity control. Set it to ON and Maximum sensitivity is set to 3200. Then in Manual mode you can set the aperture to two stops up from the bottom (that is f/5.6 on my f/2.8 lenses). Then set your shutter speed to 1/1000. Now as the sun goes behind the clouds or comes back out, the camera will shift the ISO for you and keep you shooting at the speed that you need and an aperture that will keep your shots sharp.

    Just checking a series I took last spring at Sun Valley. Heavy overcast, but still able to shoot f/10 at 1/1000 at ISO 800. At that time I was using my 80-400, so f/10 is generally two stops up from wide open. Pictures have enough DOF that focus wasn't a problem.

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    Wow! I've never even looked at my camera's "scene" mode. Little "pictures" in a menu display! "Pet portrait?" "Blossom?" "Child?"

    Anyway, not to make too light of the scene mode, FWIW, my thumb rests between the command dial and the LiveVIew switch. I have my D7000 programmed to adjust aperture with the main command dial, since I shoot virtually 100% in aperture-priority mode. I also changed the direction: turning the wheel to the right, opens the aperture to its maximum opening, which somehow makes more ergonomic sense to me than the default direction, which seems "backwards." Anyway, I'm constantly thumbing the wheel subconsciously to the right to "try to let in more light" while shooting (90% of the time, I'm shooting wide-open). What I'm saying is, the wheel is in constant contact with my thumb, and my thumb knows it's there, always adding slight pressure to the right, to ensure my widest aperture is "set." This "presence" (both tactilely and mentally) seems to keep the dial in check. Once in a great while, I may have bumped it inadvertently to an f-stop I wasn't wanting, but it seems, rarely.

    If I'm shooting at a stop other than wide-open, then my thumb seems to "know," and seems to instinctively lean more toward the LiveView switch, away from the command dial.

    This doesn't address your specific question, but if I could make a suggestion: that you consider weening yourself off of the scene mode, and try shooting in aperture-priority mode for a week (perhaps even setting the command dial to control aperture, if desired), and see how you like it. Other than that, tape always works for these kinds of issues. In my TV job, some people tape a plastic water bottle cap onto switches we're not supposed to change inadvertently.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  13. rbid

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    Just thinking loud.. there are two custom settings the user may use, you can configure them to suit your needs and then you are not affected by the dials. (I guess, I did not check that on my D7K). RTFM for U1 and U2.

    RTFM = Read The Fantastic Manual ... :)

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  14. casperwb

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    sjbgarden said:</cite My right hand is on the grip - which is where is is supposed to be. If you look , the "Main Command Dial" is in the area where my thumb rests. Maybe my dial is easier to move than it should be. JorPet, thanks again for the suggestions- shooting ski racing and ski jumping has it's challenges as you know.
    Thanks again.

    SJB

    try practing applying very light pressure with third, fourth, and fifth fingers of the right hand, therefore the the camerais not held with the thumb but the pad underneath the thumb.

    Also, concentrate on supporting the camera with the left hand, it should rest in the palm of your hand with the fingers around the lens for zooming or focus. This hand takes the weight and supports the camera, the elbow and upper part of the arm should be against your body, and control of your breathing will control movement and shake.

    The right hand should be very relaxed, 3rd,4th & 5th fingers just there for stability, orientatin and very light control. Should your right hand grip be too tight you will get camera shake when you press the shutter.

    Use a telephoto lens to see how breathing affects the movement of the camera, and remember relax the right hand.

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  15. sjbgarden

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    These are great suggestions, THANK YOU!

    Posted 2 years ago #

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