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So it appears that the next generation of Nikon pro cameras *might* have Thunderbolt/Light Peak connections. Although this new connection is FAST, I'm not sure I'm liking the idea of having to keep track of yet another cable in my camera bag. USB, USB2, USB3, Firewire, HDMI, Light Peak/Thunderbolt....
This also means(if true)that we are going to see some interesting advances in DSLR video.
That's cool.
I would have thought (hoped) connectivity would be heading towards some kind of native modular wireless connection. Maybe the tech isn't there yet... I dunno.
This is kind of interesting, and I guess is needed for video, since you should now have enough bandwidth to do 4k video at 60 frames with 12 bits per pixel with 10Gb/s. Obviously less since you have to add overhead, but Intel is saying that there is capability to go up to 100Gb/s which would be crazy.
For stills, I don't think we really need that kind of data transfer rate, unless you are talking about someone who fills their 128G card everyday and has to transfer it in 5 minutes.
I could care less what cable connections they put on a camera - I don't think I have ever hooked a cable (AV, usb or HDMI) up after the first day when I played with the cables on my tv.
I do see the Thunderbolt connection seems like a good idea for video or live view on monitors/computers for those who could find a use for them.
BTW - current max for the tech is 8gb/s. Theoretically it can go higher but there is almost nothing developed to handle much more than 1gb/s. Nonetheless, that is wicked fast. I just want the tech for my external and backup drives.
I couldn't care less, but "I could care less" just sounds wrong to me so I looked it up! Seems there are others who think its not right as well "William and Mary Morris, for example, in the Harper Dictionary of Contemporary Usage, back in 1975, called it “an ignorant debasement of language” " seems the term is only used in america in the last few decades. So after all this rant, I guess I could care less! lol!
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-ico1.htm
lol! sorry for the off topic digression...
I don't like Apple.
Coming from an IT background Apple is just overgloss for the sheeple.
HOPEFULLY this rumor is completely false.
That would basically mean the only computers you could use it with until 2012 is an Apple since they had a hand in creating it with Intel they have exclusivity to it until then.
I mean LaCie will have externals and such but still, come on.
I could see maybe USB 3.0 but not Thunderbolt, initially. I think that will become like Firewire.
It seems like a great way to shoot tethered.
krevlingoodspeed said:
I don't like Apple.Coming from an IT background Apple is just overgloss for the sheeple.
HOPEFULLY this rumor is completely false.
That would basically mean the only computers you could use it with until 2012 is an Apple since they had a hand in creating it with Intel they have exclusivity to it until then.
I mean LaCie will have externals and such but still, come on.
I could see maybe USB 3.0 but not Thunderbolt, initially. I think that will become like Firewire.
Intel has already said that they have no exclusive deal with Apple, just that they will not be building Thunderbolt into motherboards until 2012. The chipset for Thunderbolt will be available to OEMs much sooner than that, should they want to have it on their boards.
krevlingoodspeed said:
I don't like Apple.Coming from an IT background Apple is just overgloss for the sheeple.
HOPEFULLY this rumor is completely false.
That would basically mean the only computers you could use it with until 2012 is an Apple since they had a hand in creating it with Intel they have exclusivity to it until then.
I mean LaCie will have externals and such but still, come on.
I could see maybe USB 3.0 but not Thunderbolt, initially. I think that will become like Firewire.
I also come from IT background and have to disagree with You. I converted to mac four years ago and... it was the best computer related decision I could do. Finally I could concentrate on software not on hardware.
as for Thunderbolt I love the idea, what is the need to put an old/unreliable technology (usb) if You have a new better one already - it's faster than USB and firewire, allows to transfer both video and data simultaneously - no more hdmi and usb, finally native connection :)
as for Thunderbolt becoming like firewire, I doubt. firewire was apple's only while this is intel's.
krevlingoodspeed said:
I don't like Apple.
This is exactly why we can never have Apple photography related discussion because they always turn into Apple "sucks" Linux is "better" or Bill Gates is the Devil and Steve Jobs is God "debates".
So let's please keep the discussion on the new interface and not go into an "Apple" love/hate fest.
elvishefer said:
I would have thought (hoped) connectivity would be heading towards some kind of native modular wireless connection.
Interesting that you mention that. I'm still hoping the next gen pro cameras will have some kind of wireless capability. Point & shoot cameras can do it so why not? I won't hold my breath though.
niko - You will have to wait another 1 or 2 generations to see wireless connectivity
adamz said:
as for Thunderbolt becoming like firewire, I doubt. firewire was apple's only while this is intel's.
Firewire was Apple's name for IEEE 1394, an industry standard. It was never Apple's only, as its creation was a joint venture, and openly licensed. It is actually cheaper to license IEEE 1394 than it is USB, but the silicon costs of implementing USB are far less.
USB and Bluetooth both caught on because, in large part, they were designed from the ground up to be implemented with very little die space, and thus be very inexpensive to build. Just as ATA/ATAPI quickly kicked SCSI out of mainstream PCs for the same reason.
I don't know the details, but hopefully the Thunderbolt team learned their lesson as the specs look great. The Firewire team clearly didn't. Technological superiority doesn't matter if your competition is "good enough" and cheaper.
Even if they didn't learn their lesson, something better will replace it shortly sending more shivers down a nerd's spine. ;)
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