Help... I’m after a good quality Circular Polariser Filter … 67mm for a Nikkor 16-85.
B+W MRC Slim or the Hoya HD etc..
Is it worth using the Hoya HD as it’s a quicker than the Hoya Pro1D CPL ?
Seen here.. http://blog.photoframd.com/2009/08/05/hoya-circular-polarizers-pro1-v-hd-take-2/
Or is there other filters that are better altogether… ( without blowing the budget too much )
Thanks for any help…
Circular Polariser Filter
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Posted 2 years ago #
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Sorry, no experience with the Hoya HD. I use the B+W MRC and have had no problems.
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I am not sure the guy in the link knows what he is talking about when he claims the Pro Hoya CP passes 2 stops more light than a regular Hoya CP.
Hoya claims the difference is 25% which should be something like 1/3 stop . The exposure values in the test show same light transmittance for both CP's ( f4.5 - 1/640 vs f4 - 1/1000 )
I am also confused by the fact that the exposure between no filter & CP filter shots are 1/3 stop apart ( f4.5 - 1/1000 ) since most CP filters lose about 1.5 stops - 2 stops depending on the polarization amount/position ( compared to a no-filter situation )
In any case , I say never ever pay $300 for a pro CP unless you own a $5000-8000 camera and go for the reasonable +/- $100 ones . As long as the brand is recognized one like Hoya , it should be OK .
I even used a $20 linear CP ( against all suggestions saying it might not work for digital ) on my old D80 and had no issues .
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I have the b+w pro mrc thin, and everything you've probably read saying how annoying it is to not be able to use your normal lens caps with it is true. Given the choice I would go back in time and buy the regular filter and crop the vignette. The lens cap it comes with falls off all the time.
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I have all Hoya Pro1 polarizers and they work great. I only use them in sunlight and with shooting at 1/100 or much much faster a stop faster does nothing for me. If you are more concerned with reflective surfaces than it may make a difference. What I do know is that cheap CirPols are just that, cheap. It is worth spending the money on at least one size.
The real difference is the HD coating and hardening. I think the Pro1 has basically the same polarizing film.
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I use the 77mm Pro 1 no problem with a lens cap
Do compare prices , in the UK some places are nearly a third the price of othersPosted 2 years ago # -
elvishefer said:
I have the b+w pro mrc thin, and everything you've probably read saying how annoying it is to not be able to use your normal lens caps with it is true. Given the choice I would go back in time and buy the regular filter and crop the vignette.I ran into problems when I screw a 'b+w pro mrc thin' on a b+w clear filter. The two would lock together. Back to the store, they could separate them using rubber bands and special tools. The technician then screw them using very light force and found them locked again. It took him a good 30 minutes and some sweat to separate them. I got it replaced with the regular mount and no longer have this problem.
Posted 2 years ago # -
Hi,
To me it's worth using the best quality you can afford(B+W or Nikon for me) to match the quality of the lens you are using, and getting the thinnest filter to avoid as much vignetting as you can.
You might also get a set of filter wrenches, too. They're quite inexpensive and work fairly well. I've had my for 30 years or so.
You can make a tool that works well using a cutout square from a bicycle/automobile inter-tube (if they make those anymore) perhaps 3 to 4" square so while holding the rubber square in one palm it will 'grip' the filter enough to help turn it while grabbing the lens with the other hand.
My best,
Mike
Posted 2 years ago # -
B&W MRC all the way they are wonderful! :)
Mike as always you post some very cool stuff! Great having you on this forum.
Posted 2 years ago # -
Hi Kanuck,
Thank you so much. A lot of it just comes from being so ol... experienced.
I'm quickly entering my 7th stage and although I still have my teeth, it won't be too long before I'll look at the wrench and wonder what's it for.
My best,
Mike
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I use Hoya's HD CIR-PL filters. As I don't currently use anybody elses, I'm afraid I can't give you a comparison. I chose them instead of the numerous other varieties, because of the stats that said the were the most light efficient (let the most light through) of any on the market. After spending good money on fast lenses, seemed like a good idea to me. What I can say is they a very tough, very resistant to scratching and finger prints/marks and the bezel is unbelievably thin so vignetting has not been a problem in my experience. Sorry I can't give you a direct comparison, but you might also be interested to see what KR thinks about them on his site.
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I have a Nikon CP for my 77mm lenses. I have been very happy with it, but really need to get a filter wrench like Mike suggests. It can be a bear to get off the lens when it has been on there a while (very thin and hard to grip). Never had an issue with the lens cap not staying on. I don't ever put it on top of the UV filter I keep on the lenses, I swap out the CP for the UV and then back. Partly to keep two filters from locking together and partly to reduce the additional glass that I'm shooting through.
For my 67mm and 52mm lenses I have older (and much cheaper) Quantaray CPs that are fine for the low end lenses that they go on. Don't use them a whole lot, but have them if I need them.
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I'll go for B+W, if You are looking for the top of the line get one with MRC (coating), if You want something that's even better get MRC + Kasemann from B+W, it not only polarizes but also adds a nice touch of warmth
as for hoya, both hd and pro are nice, and should work for You
OMT: here's a link to a polish web site, with different tests of cir-pol filters, it's in polish, but use the google translator:
http://www.optyczne.pl/7.1-Inne_testy-Test_filtrów_polaryzacyjnych.html
and here is a quick sum up of this test:
http://www.optyczne.pl/7.4-Inne_testy-Test_filtrów_polaryzacyjnych_Wyniki_i_podsumowanie.htmlPosted 2 years ago # -
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B + W 77mm Wide Angle Circular Polarizer Multi Coated Thin Glass Filter vs B + W 77mm Kaesemann Circular Polarizer Filter in Wide Angle Slim Mount, MRC Coated Glass
What is the difference between the two? I know one has a Kaesemann coating but it is cheaper. I thought that the coating is better for the filter?
Posted 2 years ago # -
Hey Mike don't worry I think photography keeps the soul young :) I think its amazing you have enjoyed it for so long, I only hope I can say the same thing in the future. As far as remembering the wrench and it's use, there is always sticky post it notes! haha I just turned 30, and I use em all the time. Already going soft in the head I guess.
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Potrzebuję translator
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Może powinniśmy rozpocząć nowy wątek w języku polskim? Nikodoby nie wiem czy to było omawiane wcześniej!
Posted 2 years ago # -
Well.. thanks to everybody for their time & effort with fantastic comments...
I was interested in the Hoya HD CPL..
There may be better brands out there.. but based on reviews & price,
I have decided to get the Marumi Super DHG CPL..
( unless more research brings up something I'm not happy with. )
This link below + others above helped me decide..
Thanks again.. well done.Posted 2 years ago #
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