With Kodachrome all but dead now, what film do you guys and gals still use and why?
(FX: quietly goes to check on his stash of PANF and FP4)....
Such an outstanding pair of very fine gradation films ... Grain? WHAT GRAIN?
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With Kodachrome all but dead now, what film do you guys and gals still use and why?
(FX: quietly goes to check on his stash of PANF and FP4)....
Such an outstanding pair of very fine gradation films ... Grain? WHAT GRAIN?
Ill be using Astia and Provia for slide. Mostly 35mm and a few 120. Just for natural skin tones for more portaiture. I have yet used Velvia, but i heard it is compared to kodachrome for color
Edit: Ive been using alot of TiP PX100 PUSH! film for my sx70 :).
Haven't used film in a while bjrichus, but when I did it was Fuji Provia 100F and 400F for colour, and Ilford PanF Plus, FP4 Plus and HP5 Plus black and white.
Sometimes Agfa APX100.
Have a look at Silver Efex Pro for digital black and white, after some tweaking you can get some stunning results.
Provia and Velvia
Ilford Pan F and FP4. Hate all the t-grain films.
I shoot them because of the grain. I don't normally like a lot of grain, so I don't shoot anything faster than FP4 (unless I'm going all out and pushing to 800 or beyond (and normally in a more lithographic style photo)). but I like "traditional" grain, which is why I hate t-grain (Delta / TMAX) films.
I ... sniff sniff ... was ... sniff ... using .... Booo-hooo .... Kodachrome. Haven't decided what to do next with film.
broxibear said:
Haven't used film in a while bjrichus, but when I did it was [...] Ilford PanF Plus, FP4 Plus and HP5 Plus black and white.
Oh just a little "thing" here... back in the day Ilford used to have it's location in... wait for it... a town called Ilford on the border of north east London and Essex. My parents had moved to another town just up the road from there and then when I was a young child (like aged about 5) I recall my mother and I going shopping at a small collection of shops almost across the road from the factory and smelling the unmistakable smell of photo chemicals in the air. They soon put a stop to that leak, but it was a big one and a bit of local scandal at the time.
Ilford Films as they were called (now "Ilford Photo") moved out of town in what year now??? It was a defining moment in the town's history - it changed it's name to "Redbridge" more of less in protest at one of the town's main employers leaving. The others being Plessey Electronics and British Railways (they had a service depot for trains there).
I think they went through a buyout or something to avoid being bankrupt, or was it Harmon doing it? Can't remember now, it was too many years ago!
Live over the pond in the USA now. The ONE photo store in my city that isn't a national chain store stocks all sorts of supplies with the familiar Ilford logo on :)
I can't get away from my childhood, having photography in my life, now can I?
Ahh well. Memories...
warprints said:
I ... sniff sniff ... was ... sniff ... using .... Booo-hooo .... Kodachrome. Haven't decided what to do next with film.
Take it easy - don't forget to use a box of Kleenex, I don't think the Nikon Rumors web server disk drives can work with all those tears... ROFL...
A sad day indeed. :(
I am a Panf and fp4 shooter as well... I also use provia (from my secret stash Muhahaha!!!) an Agfa asa 100 stuff. There is a little bit of velvia and reala tossed in too...
bjrichus said:
Oh just a little "thing" here... back in the day Ilford used to have it's location in... wait for it... a town called Ilford on the border of north east London and Essex. My parents had moved to another town just up the road from there and then when I was a young child (like aged about 5) I recall my mother and I going shopping at a small collection of shops almost across the road from the factory and smelling the unmistakable smell of photo chemicals in the air. They soon put a stop to that leak, but it was a big one and a bit of local scandal at the time.Ilford Films as they were called (now "Ilford Photo") moved out of town in what year now??? It was a defining moment in the town's history - it changed it's name to "Redbridge" more of less in protest at one of the town's main employers leaving. The others being Plessey Electronics and British Railways (they had a service depot for trains there.
I have a friend who worked there his entire working career. It is pretty interesting reading on how things have changed in the processes in the book he gave me on the company (I'm not that old :()
Film???
kyoshinikon said:
I have a friend who worked there his entire working career. It is pretty interesting reading on how things have changed in the processes in the book he gave me on the company (I'm not that old :()
I'm certain it is interesting - the industry is exactly that - an industry. Never mind that it is (was?) stuffed full of enthusiasts, there is something called the profit motive that needs to be satisfied. We "enthusiasts" often forget that...
By the way, I don't think I'M all THAT old either (am 55), but the years do add up. :(
bjrichus said:
Is it really better than using the regular B&W setting in PS?
It's stunning compared to any other plugin I've come across.
You can choose the film type you want ie TriX, then still keeping the film characteristics get rid of the grain structure completely, infact you can tweak all the channels, grain etc to however you want.
You tend to find a particular look and feel you like and use it as a starting point, well worth getting.
I have used a lot of Reala, Fujicolor, and Velvia when I was also shooting Kodachrome. My feeling is that although the Fuji films are not as archival as Kodachrome (check out the rating from the Wilhelm Color Permanence Institute aka Henry Wilhelm) the Fuji films are pretty good.PROBLEM is you still have to scan them to get to most current uses. That is why I stopped using film and a Nikon D700 will equate wonderfully well to the best of films.
SkintBrit said:
Film???
LOL!
Note: this may be a little off topic but still underfilm. It just hit me that when I was young... I'd always remember big blue and red packs at the local cvs when ever my father went to get film developed, also at other stores such as SAMs club. It wasnt till now I realized those were boxes of Polaroid film.
I just find it so weird that those boxes are gone so easily and a legacy is gone, and now kodachrome. Two of the most popular films when you were growing up for alot of people. I just hope there isn't that many changes in the next 10 years like there have been this last 10 years.
bjrichus said:
Take it easy - don't forget to use a box of Kleenex, I don't think the Nikon Rumors web server disk drives can work with all those tears... ROFL...
My despair bringing on a frenzied bout of delerium, I frantically searched my office for any signs of unused Kodachrome, weeping profusely at the though of never having an exposed positive created from it's wonderful emulsion again. Alas, I have found several rolls - one with an expiry date of 12 years ago !!!
broxibear said:
You tend to find a particular look and feel you like and use it as a starting point, well worth getting.
Broxibear...
Looks like I'll be heads down for a few days getting used to it then!
I am going to be on location for a few days next week where there are a LOT of old warehouses and abandoned factory type buildings. Sounds like a good chance to mess about making some moody B&W shots using it.
Thanks.
smarterchild said:
I just find it so weird that those boxes are gone so easily and a legacy is gone, and now kodachrome. Two of the most popular films when you were growing up for alot of people. I just hope there isn't that many changes in the next 10 years like there have been this last 10 years.
The rate things are going, the next ten years' worth of change will come in five.
What does anyone use for 1600 or 3200 film? - BW / Color. Any drawbacks on processing?
There's only one ISO 1600 film currently available, Fujifilm's Superia 1600, and it's being discontinued. It's a C-41 film so any pharmacy or supermarket photo lab can process it in an hour. Not very many 3200 films left either. Don't expect smooth noise free photos like from your D3S or D700 at that ISO. Film at that speed is very grainy but then that's why they are appealing.
My favorite films are basically anything from Kodak. I prefer their color rendition to Fuji's. I like the usual films from Kodak such as all of the Portra films (I haven't tried the new Portra 400 yet), all of the E100 series and Elite Chrome slide films, and I like Ektar 100. I have recently been shooting a lot of the Ultramax 400 and 800 films. They are "consumer" film but to me they give pro results and they are very easy to buy locally at my corner pharmacy. It also helps that they've been on sale for several weeks now too. It's great film at a great price.
I like shooting old expired films too. I recently bought a bunch of bricks of expired Lucky and Solaris film. For B&W I like too many to list.
I just like film :^)
Oh and software doesn't even come close to the actual "3D" feeling film can give you. There's more to it then just running your digital files through a plug in to give them the "film look". Nothing beats the real thing.
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