I'm gonna say we'll see it in February 2011. A D3100 with a tweaked sensor, swivel screen, and better HD video than the D7000 perhaps?
D5100 Coming Soon?
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Interesting . . . but, why would you expect better video than the D7000? The D7000 will likely still have the superior 14-bit ADC, no? Are you thinking that they would've had more development time, and then that we would see a positive result from that? Certainly, a swivel screen would be great for video users! If they include manual ISO and shutter speed control for its D-Movie feature (plus any hopeful, further video tweaks), that'll be a great addition to Nikon's DX V-DSLR line-up.
In fact, if Nikon implements video properly in the D5100, they could really knock this one out of the park, and turn it into a low-cost T2i alternative (hopefully, better than a T2i). Those looking to shoot video on the cheap with a Nikon body (e.g., those who don't need advanced still-only oriented features), would have an excellent option here, especially with an articulated LCD. Plus, there would likely be less of an availability issue with this mid-line "consumer" body. This would also be great for those Nikon filmmakers who need multiple bodies for certain set-ups (stunts, vehicle-mounts, remote cameras, "crash" cameras, etc.).
If Nikon actually makes this, and fills the gap between the D3100 and the D7000 (and your confidence is high, that they will fill that gap, right, Niko?), this may actually be the perfect V-DSLR for someone like . . . me! Reasons why a "D5100" would be a good "fit" for filmmakers would include:
1. Lack of an AF screw-drive is less important here--most filmmakers will be using manual-focus Nikkors anyway.
2. An increased mega-pixel count, also unimportant, since the video is subsampled anyway (a lower-density sensor would actually be preferred for filmmaking for its increased light-sensitivity/dynamic range).
3. Articulated LCD screen.
4. Lower cost than D7000 (able to afford additional, matched bodies for multiple-angles).
5. Greater initial availability than D7000.The biggest downside I can see for filmmakers opting for a D5100 instead of a D7000, would be the lack of weatherizing.
In fact, the more I think about it, the more I want a "D5100." As you may recall, I was fully intending on getting just a D3100 strictly for video, until we learned that there was no provision for any manual control in the D3100's D-Movie mode. A video-savvy "D5100" would be a perfect addition to the 2011 Nikon line.
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Why would you think it should have better video quality than the D7000?,then it would cost more,the D5000 is not the competitor with the D90 stage,its the competitor with the D3000 seriesNikoDoby said:
I'm gonna say we'll see it in February 2011. A D3100 with a tweaked sensor, swivel screen, and better HD video than the D7000 perhaps?
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No the D5000 is it's own "series". It's not suppose to compete directly against the D3000/D3100. I think what Studio said above makes a lot of sense. Nikon needs to fill a pretty big gap and the perfect model to do that would be the D5100 (obviously). But how do you seperate the D5100 from the D3100 and D7000? Eventually the price of the D3100 will fall to below $600 and the D7000 below $1000. So why would I want a $800-900 dollar D5100 instead of buying the D7000 for one or two hundred more? Because the D5100 has to offer something that the D3100/D7000 models don't offer. It has to offer something better. So Nikon can entice a lot of amateur film makers with an inexpensive DSLR in a smaller lighter package, with things like a swivel LCD and faster full-time video AF.
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NikoDoby said:So why would I want a $800-900 dollar D5100 instead of buying the D7000 for one or two hundred more? Because the D5100 has to offer something that the D3100/D7000 models don't offer.
While I think it is quite possible the D5100 would offer video above what the D7000 has, I completely disagree with the reasoning stated here.
The consumer camera (even DSLR) market has proven to be extremely price sensitive. The correct answer for "Why would consumer buy X when Y is only 25% more." is "Because both X and Y are good enough for said consumer's needs and X is 25% percent less."*
Differentiation allows rationalization and quells the concerns of some, and also allows the target marketing towards others. If you're really lucky it creates repeat sales.
*A bit simplistic, perceived status is also a decent factor, as are many other too numerous to list - but the basic issue is that in a price-sensitive market all price categories need populated. If X makes a $500 and a $900 camera while Y makes a $600 and a $1000 camera, studies show the average consumer with a $700 budget is more likely to go with the $600 item than the $500 item. One needs to not leave gaps, regardless if the $700 product is worth $200 more than the $500 one.
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Q1 seems reasonable, in fact if i recall thom hogans 2011 predictions included a possible D5100 this december( as Nikon has a history of December announcements).
Nonetheless the most exciting thing about this possibility for me is that it will almost certainly come with some new lenses. Can't wait
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The idea of a video-oriented model is interesting, but unless there is a very large segment of buyers I'm not sure it flies. The d5100 will either be a 16 megapixel downgrade or a 14 megapixel upgrade. I'm not sure articulation is a guarantee unless it proved popular in the d5000. For example, a 14 megapixel upgrade might just have a 920K LCD and video with a stereo plug -- two good reasons to upgrade over a d3100, but not enough to pull traffic away from the d7000, i.e. go after the d3100 crowd.
A 16 megapixel downgrade, on the other hand, would be more likely to keep the articulation. Think a d5000 with the 16 megapixel and Multi-Cam 4800DX sensors. Again, it would likely pull from the low end, but not keep someone away from the d7000.
Either one works. As for timing, think Spring ...
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If the availability of the D7000, MB-D11, D7000 battery, 35mm f/1.4 are any indication, I think Nikon will announce it now, and have the first batch shipped in April 2011, with full availability Christmas 2011
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I'd say it's a D3100 upgrade (14MPx sensor) and the D400 is 16MPx upgrade.
As for the features..
Plastic body (as opposed to magnesium), no screwdrive, less fps, no top lcd, less AF points is enough to distinguish it from D7000.Gaining manual video controls, more AF points, swivel screen is enough to justify the bigger price than D3100.
Nikon marketing team has a lot of features to choose from. :)
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