I have my eye on these budget priced cards. Any experience with Panasonic Class 10 cards? I will be recording movies as well as taking pictures. Thanks
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I have my eye on these budget priced cards. Any experience with Panasonic Class 10 cards? I will be recording movies as well as taking pictures. Thanks
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Looks like it would be OK. I would just stay away from ones that aren't on the "approved" cards by Nikon. Some people might say otherwise, but my card that wasn't on the list died. I haven't had a problem with my Sandisk one.
I always recommending getting Sandisk but some people swear by Transcend which is also a hair cheaper than the ones you linked.
I've always used Sandisk cards, some other photographers I know use Lexar...I think you get what you pay for as far as cards go and I'd rather pay extra for cards I trust.
The other thing I always say is instead of buying one 16gb card get two 8gb cards, if one goes wrong you not only have another, but you won't loose all your images from a shoot if the worse happens.
The D7000 takes SD, SDHC and SDXC cards and as I said I'd always go with Sandisk.
ask Yourself, is it worth it to spend $$$$ on Your camera and save couple of bucks on Your card. I'll go for SanDisk Extreme.
I've been asking myself precisely the same question for when my D7000 arrives (still waiting!). I'm not rich, so although adamz makes a decent point above, I spent my spare money just getting the D7000 body. I'll certainly be using two 8Gb cards instead of one 16Gb card, it's a better backup and more economical. If I get heavily into the video side of things I can always upgrade later (and memory cards only get cheaper with time).
One thing worth noting- both the Panasonic and SanDisk extreme (http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-High-Performance-Card-SDSDX3-008G-P31/dp/B002GEQDK4/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1287796961&sr=8-7) call themselves "class 10", but the Panasonic claims 22MB/sec, vs 30MB/sec for SanDisk. That's big difference, and one I suspect might be noticeable if you plan to shoot a lot at 6fps. I guess I'll find out when my camera comes :)
There is no card that can stand upto 6 fps RAW ( 100Mb/sec ) or full size JPEG ( 30-40 Mb/sec ) so I don't really see the point in spending fortunes on extra extreme/supreme cards . ( I am shocked to see SD cards arond 200-400 ). If you are not taking videos , the 4 Mb write speed difference between cards makes no difference ( see first sentence ) . Class 6 cards are enough for 720p video on D90 & D5000 - I don't know about HD.
For some pros , getting 20 shots in a row instead of 18 might make a difference and it may be OK to pay $300 for that but for those who can hardly afford a $1000 DSLR ,it is a waste . And if you miss a shot ( or if the card fails ) , believe me the images you lost won't be worth $300 . They go for 25 cents in ShutterStock :-)
The maximum I ever paid for a 8 Gb card is $49 (Just plain Lexar 80 x, 200x or Panasonic Class 6 ... None of them failed and I don't remember a time any card slowed me down. )
You can easily buy a lens or two with that money ...
Bought 2 panasonic 8gb cards @ 29.99/each. I'll update with experience as I use them. The SanDisks were going to run 30 dollars more. The price of a third card.
The manual calls out specific brands of Class 6 cards as adequate for video, stating possible issues if you use lower speed. I'm assuming that will be good enough for 1080p24.
I'm planning to get a 16GB Sandisk Extreme HD Class 6 card (20Mb/s) from Amazon for around $60 which seems a reasonable price. I think I may get some lower speed 8GB cards for photos until 32GB Extreme HD or a Class 6 Lexar comes down further in price.
Not sure I'd agree with Paperman's comments on bad card. If it's a shot you will really like, it's a pain to lose it. I just lost an important negative. Would pay way more than $300 to get it back. I'd stick to brands known for reliability.
The Man From Mandrem said:
Not sure I'd agree with Paperman's comments on bad card. If it's a shot you will really like, it's a pain to lose it. I just lost an important negative. Would pay way more than $300 to get it back. I'd stick to brands known for reliability.
No mention of a "bad" card from me . I haven't suggested use of no name / $10 cards ; I'm talking about class 6 Lexar /Panasonic brand cards which I paid around $30-50 max . I'm just against the $150,$200,$300 super duper cards .
And I'll never pay $300 to get back any image of mine :-))
I'm with Paperman. I think it's a waste of money for the most expensive cards if you even have to think twice about spending that kind of money (and I do).
Yes right now the Panasonics recommended seem the best price/performance ratio at the moment. The 1080p/24fps seems to average 2.6MB/s so even class 4 cards should handle it, but class 10 cards can be have for cheap so don't buy class 4. Also you can set the second card slot to be a backup so even with cheap cards, there is virtually no chance of both cards failing at the same time.
The Nikon d7000 supports the new SD 3.0 specs which has 'Ultra High Speed Interface' (UHS-i) which enables up to 104MB/s SDHC and SDXC cards.
Toshiba announced its SDHC 3.0 cards with UHS104 enter mass production beginning with the 32GB card in November, featuring 95MB/s read, and 80MB/s write. They say the 16GB & 8GB cards will start mass production in December.
So by January-February there might be fast cards that actually let you shoot *.NEF at 6FPS.
Beezer94 said:
The Nikon d7000 supports the new SD 3.0 specs which has 'Ultra High Speed Interface' (UHS-i) which enables up to 104MB/s SDHC and SDXC cards.
Toshiba announced its SDHC 3.0 cards with UHS104 enter mass production beginning with the 32GB card in November, featuring 95MB/s read, and 80MB/s write. They say the 16GB & 8GB cards will start mass production in December.
So by January-February there might be fast cards that actually let you shoot *.NEF at 6FPS.
The indicated speeds are maximum and not the minimum . There are currently 400x & 600x / 60 Mb & 90 Mb/sec cards at $200-300 or so but they are all rated Class 10 as they have a guaranteed write speed of only 10 Mb/sec. They probably can hit 30,60,90 Mb temporarily but that speed can not be relied on so the rating is still class 10 . It is also common that Class4 cards perform at 7-10 Mb/sec speeds but again - no guarantee .
Paperman said:
The indicated speeds are maximum and not the minimum . There are currently 400x & 600x / 60 Mb & 90 Mb/sec cards at $200-300 or so but they are all rated Class 10 as they have a guaranteed write speed of only 10 Mb/sec. They probably can hit 30,60,90 Mb temporarily but that speed can not be relied on so the rating is still class 10 . It is also common that Class4 cards perform at 7-10 Mb/sec speeds but again - no guarantee .
http://www.toshiba.com/taec/news/press_releases/2010/memy_10_600.jsp
They are called class 10 because their is not a higher class yet on official SD specs (www.sdcard.org), but the 1 with the U around it is the designation of UHS-i support.
actually:
http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/speed_class
"UHS speed" is the new speed class.
What I'm saying is there are currently 400x ( 60Mb )- 600x ( 90 Mb ) cards in the market just like the 80-95 Mb/sec cards of Toshiba you mentioned .
The new one announced by Toshiba is 104 Mb/sec .
So I don't see any difference that should change things dramatically - unless they indicate the MINIMUM write speed which they seem to be totally avoiding .
I don't think a single manufacturer lists a minimum speed. Sandisk 30MB/s cards are max speed, like you said the class 10 designation is the only "minimum" in any spec for any card anywhere.
Please link an SDHC card that is 60MB/s or 90MB/s (also its MB not Mb, MegaByte vs Megabit, as 8Mb equals 1MB). There are "600x" CompactFlash, not SD.
Thanks.
Here you go ...
This one is XDHC but it is already here ...
http://www.kingston.com/flash/sdxc.asp
And plenty of CFs rated 90MB/sec ... And they also are no match for 6 fps on my D300 .
You don't have to pay $300-$400 to get decent speed. Get sandis extreme 8gb for app $40 and be happy with it. Maybe on d7000 You will not see a difference, but on d90 it was pretty visible. I could shoot continous jpg's on my sandisk, although couldn't say the same about kingston card I own.
adamz said:
You don't have to pay $300-$400 to get decent speed. Get sandis extreme 8gb for app $40 and be happy with it. Maybe on d7000 You will not see a difference, but on d90 it was pretty visible. I could shoot continous jpg's on my sandisk, although couldn't say the same about kingston card I own.
Where do you get it for $40, The cheapest I see is $75 and over.
Amazon has the class 6 8gb for $33 shipped. Class 10 are $48.
Well Wouldn't a $30 class 10 panasonic be faster than a $33 dollar Class 6 SanDisk? I could have 3 class 10 panasonics for the price if 2 San disk cards of the same type.
butkusrules1985 said:
Well Wouldn't a $30 class 10 panasonic be faster than a $33 dollar Class 6 SanDisk? I could have 3 class 10 panasonics for the price if 2 San disk cards of the same type.
It depends, some class 6 can be faster then Class 10, it just depends on the quality of the card.
If you are going to shoot video - definitely go with class 10. If not and you don't need sustained 6 fps - class 6 will do you just fine. In fact if all your are going to shoot is portraits/landscapes or other things that stay still - write speed is irrelevant.
As far as brands and reliability. I have only used Sandisk and have had no problems. Experience is your best measuring tool for this. Is Sandisk worth the price? Well compare spending more on your memory and having higher reliability vs. saving a few bucks in the beginning and loosing all your clients images. I guess if you are not shooting professionally this just a matter of your own opinion.
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