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nikond

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Kid Krinkle said:
This really sucks Nikon. I sold my 18-105, just checked for stuck pixels in video (daylight not with cap on) and I found one red and one blue in the top left corner.

Anyone think I can just exchange the camera body to possible get one with no stuck pixels?

Sample:
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j219/m3sport/Screenshot2010-10-18at94254AM.png

kid, do you get those two pixel showup staticthroughout the video or it just shows up once in a while?

what happens if you take a picture with caps on? do you see those two pixels in the pitch black picture just taken? thanks.

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JJump

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Dpreview has a post on the same issue:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=36645627

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Kid Krinkle said:
This really sucks Nikon. I sold my 18-105, just checked for stuck pixels in video (daylight not with cap on) and I found one red and one blue in the top left corner.

Anyone think I can just exchange the camera body to possible get one with no stuck pixels?

No. I don't think you can, but go if it bothers you go down and ask them about it.

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Ron

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Has anyone having pixel problems read the D7000 manual to see what Nikon has to say about bright pixels and comapared that to what you are seeing? See pages 54, 59, 102, 103, 140, 205, and 300 or do a search for "bright pixels"

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NikoDoby said:
I must be a psychic. Didn't I predict this would happen. Four or 5 "bad" pixels out of 16 million is NOT a problem. I'm sure many of you have been using a D90 with just as many, if not more, bad pixels and you used your camera for years.

All digital cameras suffer from this. If you look hard enough you will find them. I bet there are even stuck pixels on your computer's LCD screen and you just never noticed them. This is not something that should stop you from buying this camera!

I wonder how many of you would return a Nikon F6 because your photos have dust and scratches on them?

Not a problem for stills, usually they aren't visible and if they are there, 20 seconds in photoshop solves it. Problem is for video. Googled and guy made a plugin that he claims solves this in 1080p, you have to have Sony Vegas for your video editor though. http://www.stuckvideopixelremover.com/ I (now that I exchanged at BB) don't have a noticeable hot pixel nor Vegas, but somebody might find this useful. Also the guy says there's a Vegas SDK that lets you make your own filters if you don't want to buy his.

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Kid Krinkle

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If you have Final Cut Pro, this plug-in looks like it will do the trick:

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Just bought it and I am going to test soon.

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Kid Krinkle

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nikond said:
kid, do you get those two pixel showup staticthroughout the video or it just shows up once in a while?

what happens if you take a picture with caps on? do you see those two pixels in the pitch black picture just taken? thanks.

Yep they show throughout the video, more so in low light darkness. I just took a pic with the cap on and I do not see any hot pixels...

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lightsaver said:
Not a problem for stills, usually they aren't visible and if they are there, 20 seconds in photoshop solves it. Problem is for video.

Not a problem for one or two pics taken sparingly over time, but if you are taking 1000+ pics at a wedding every weekend then that 20 seconds turns into all day. Running filters and correction rendering video should not be necessary for normal imagery. You want to avoid any post production time, time in post is lost time, and time is money.

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JJump said:
Dpreview has a post on the same issue:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=36645627

lol, that's the same post i made here. again, to the people complaining about us 'griping' about some hot pixels, this is a major problem since this mostly appears in video mode. the replacement d7000 i got has maybe two hot pixels in pic mode at high iso, but that's something that can be dealt with. when it comes to screwing up your video i think we're talking a whole new level of pain in the ass.

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Metal Bird said:
Not a problem for one or two pics taken sparingly over time, but if you are taking 1000+ pics at a wedding every weekend then that 20 seconds turns into all day. Running filters and correction rendering video should not be necessary for normal imagery. You want to avoid any post production time, time in post is lost time, and time is money.

if u shoot weddings u probably own either d700 or d3/d3s, dx is not a great format for weddings. as for hot pixels, guys before You start sending Your cameras to Nikon check what's the norm - 2-3 pixels will probably make it in the norm of 16mpx

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NikoDoby said:
I must be a psychic. Didn't I predict this would happen. Four or 5 "bad" pixels out of 16 million is NOT a problem. I'm sure many of you have been using a D90 with just as many, if not more, bad pixels and you used your camera for years.

All digital cameras suffer from this. If you look hard enough you will find them. I bet there are even stuck pixels on your computer's LCD screen and you just never noticed them. This is not something that should stop you from buying this camera!

I wonder how many of you would return a Nikon F6 because your photos have dust and scratches on them?

Ugh, Niko statements like this really bother me. Look I am all for making sure this isn't being overstated, but going to the other end of the spectrum and ignoring facts is just as stupid. Yes a huge part of this is people not knowing what to expect. But obviously if cameras are turning up like Studio's first body with a large dead blue pixel dead center at iso 3200 (and other dead pixels showing up at iso !250!) then it is a problem.

You can say that obviously all dslr's have dead pixel and hot pixel issues, but if it were the case to this extent, then all this commotion wouldn't be happening right now. It IS happening because this is a much higher frequency than normal and in a worse way than normal.

I'm totally with you in that a lot of people are freaking out over this for no reason, but that's not reason to spread disinformation the other direction as well. So far Studio's posts in this thread have shown the most accurate information. He has posted what problems he has had, how he has tested it, and why it is an issue/not an issue.

"5 bad pixels out of 16 million is not a problem" -- well yeah it is if that is a blue pixel dead center in your frame. Also remember this is pertaining (mostly) to video, if it was stills obviously it would be fixable much more easily, if not automatically (maybe it is actually).

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adamz said:
if u shoot weddings u probably own either d700 or d3/d3s, dx is not a great format for weddings. as for hot pixels, guys before You start sending Your cameras to Nikon check what's the norm - 2-3 pixels will probably make it in the norm of 16mpx

I do, my wife has a pair of D700 cameras as the primary, I shoot candids mainly, the DX crop is great for that extra reach of capturing emotion without being in their face. D300 is a great cameras as far as I am concerned for my use in that role. Before FX the DX was a great format for weddings, before DX the Film was a great format for weddings... get the point... While I agree the FX cameras we have are amazing, the DX is still great, don't belittle it as a format for pro use.
I want the D7000 for the 1080 video, and that is where the two units I have had in my hand are showing to be unacceptable for my use.
I do videography (weddings, corporate, freelance...), so hot spots in videos don't fly for me or my clients. I am due to upgrade my camcorders and add on more units. I have been holding out for this camera for video use hoping I could kill two birds with one stone. I hate to say it, but I shoot Canon camcorders and was really hoping to not have to buy more of their camcorders and just invest in one type of imaging system. Now I have to decide if I continue to search and hunt for 4 units with no obvious defective pixels, pass on the D7000 all together and buy camcorders, or hold out on any purchases and continue to wait for improvement in Nikon DSLR video capture.
I may do both, get a couple camcorders and keep faith in Nikon. I was really hoping for 1080 30p or 60i as options in this camera too since some work I do can be benefited buy those rates, this is turing out to be the decider for me to wait.
Please forgive me if I seem like I am whining and disappointed ... To each their own...

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foofiebeast said:
Ugh, Niko statements like this really bother me.

I wasnt aware I couldn't give my opinion on this subject. I dont understand why you are so offended when someone doesnt agree with you. GROW UP!

If bad pixels are the end of the world for you then dont buy a D7000. Buy something else. Problem solved.

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My D7000 has like 8 hot pixels. However, only 1 or 2 are noticeable in anything other than shooting video in literally pitch black (I'm talking with the lens cap on). Once even a bit of light enters the picture I can only kind of see a couple of them. Turn a 60 watt light bulb on in the room and I can't see any.

I also fail to see any hot pixels in my photos regardless of how dark it is (even with the lens cap on). I wonder if that has to do with the jpeg compression? I would be curious to see if they show up in raw.

I can see how this would be a large problem for some people who are going to shoot a lot of video and never want to have to deal with this, but as I will only shoot the occasional video, and rarely when it is pitch black, it really doesn't bother me at all.

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NikoDoby - I'm 100% with You, 5px out of 16 million is NOT a problem; guys whatever You think of d7000 it's a consumer camera - amateur family not PRO!!! don't expect it to behave like a pro camera and consumer price at the same time! this ain't gonna happen, at least not too soon.

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Niko,

Are you buying the D7000? I am and don't share your cold detachment. For video, hot pixels are a pain to deal with and hard to ignore. On Amazon an owner of other video capable DSLRs gave the D7000 4 out of 5 stars because his first copy had dead pixels and he had to get a replacement to address it (I assume he buys at BB). There seem to be more reports of the issue than people reporting not seeing the issue, in contrast with the sharpness issue where more people are posting to dispute it. It's a small sample size, but you can see what appears to be a high frequency of issues in video.

If the batch from B&H has the same issues, I'd rather they fix it before shipping rather than wasting our time and money shipping the cameras right back. I texted their sales group on this but the guy who replied didn't think there was issue and said that no recall of D7000 occuring. B&H's shipments should reach in time for Halloween, so I expect alot of people like me will be following their kids in the dark. If there's an issue people will probably notice it then.

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The Man From Mandrem said:
Niko,

Are you buying the D7000? I am and don't share your cold detachment.

Cold detachment? I started this thread. Sometimes I get to "play" with new gear before any one else. Sometimes I get to keep it once I'm done "playing" with it sometimes not. I started this thread to hear about D7000 problems. So far all I'm reading is hysteria from people like you who don't even have a D7000 yet.

The fact that people are linking to other forums by the SAME poster and claiming a major problem means to me this is getting blown out of proportion. It's funny that I originally (jokingly) titled this thread "D7000 light leaks" and then suddenly people started threads in other forums asking about the "D7000 light leak problems".

Bad pixels happen. They are NOT an exclusive problem to just the D7000. If you shoot at ISO1600 with the lens cap on you will find them. I understand if you shoot video and get a bad pixel dead center of your screen then yeah that's annoying, but there are ways to get rid of it.

Anyway let's not turn this into a back and forth. If you want a back and forth "discussion" with me then just PM or email me otherwise those post will be deleted.

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Damn guys, even the SONY DSLRs (all of them) have a pixel remapping feature. It's automatic, too.

WTF, Nikon!?!?!?!?!?!?

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thinkthis

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It's possible they release a software update to pixel remap.

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Jumbonas

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Kid , how did that software work? Did anyone personally have any luck ever sending a nikon in for pixel remapping? I have 1 pretty bad green stuck pixel about 1/3 of the way down, right in the center of the frame GRRRRR! I tried sensor cleaning like 10 times, and going from bright to black reptitively to get try to "unstick it" but to no avail. I may go to BB tomorrow to try and swap it, but I wonder what to do if they dont have any in stock, as they have a 15% restocking fee on their cameras.

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Thinkthis. I hope you are right, but I am not hopeful it will happen. the stuck pixel issue is old.

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OneSix

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Do you guys think if i take it to the Nikon Service center they can fix the hot pixel problem by remapping it?

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Jumbonas said: I tried sensor cleaning like 10 times,

Only risking a scratch with that

Jumbonas said: and going from bright to black reptitively to get try to "unstick it" but to no avail.

Your camera sensor is not a LCD. All you are doing is (even if ever so slightly (as I have no idea of the light intensity you're using)) is prematurely aging your sensor.

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I am buying the D7000 and I am with Niko and Adamz on this. Lightroom takes out stuck pixels in zero seconds, I have shot weddings on two D90 bodies and both had stuck pixels. They were never a concern. High ISO noise reduction will also take them out. If you're selling video I could see how it could be a problem.

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Jumbonas

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Drab,
Thanks for the advice, I'll knock it off. :)

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