I found a group of four in the lower right corner doing the live view test (r,r,g,b). Not sure how much I really care about this, or if I should. Whould this necessitate a return, if it were your new camera?
[D7000] - Problems (Bad Pixels)
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NeuroPhoto said:
I found a group of four in the lower right corner doing the live view test (r,r,g,b). Not sure how much I really care about this, or if I should. Whould this necessitate a return, if it were your new camera?If they are visible when you take video, you should return and get another. I did. Very happy I did it too; it was a minor inconvenience.
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Looks like I have 1 relatively dim blue hot pixel at ISO 3200 in video of my lens cap. I have (what I believe to be another) blue hot pixel that shows up around ISO 2000 in still photos...of my lens cap.
Thinking about this, my D40x, D80 and D90 all went back to Nikon at one point or another to get hot pixels mapped out. This camera will too. That's probably a foregone conclusion. If I return this baby to Best Buy now and spend another hour or so...per new camera... testing for hot pixels, I will just need to do this again in a few months when one actually shows its ugly head in a real photo or real video.
F#*k it. I'm keeping this copy.
Edit: Did a second round of testing..photo only...Changed shutter speed to 1 second from 1/160. Changed aperture (why this should matter, I don't know) from f/9 to f/4. Blue pixel gone; smaller white pixel came to the party. This is an especially tiresome endeavor. And, again, as soon as it shows up in a real photo, the camera is making its way to Melville.
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yes, I sent each of those cameras in during the warranty period and received mapping for free (YMMV). I am, in fact, keeping my D90--and planned on doing this before I got the D7000--because I know that each trip to Nikon service takes like, from what I remember, 3 weeks. Major pain in the butt to be without a camera for 3 weeks.
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anjz said:
yes, I sent each of those cameras in during the warranty period and received mapping for free (YMMV). I am, in fact, keeping my D90--and planned on doing this before I got the D7000--because I know that each trip to Nikon service takes like, from what I remember, 3 weeks. Major pain in the butt to be without a camera for 3 weeks.Mine got abouot 4 hot pixel. So remapping should fix the problem. Hmm since i live pretty close to the NY Service center, can I walk in instead of mailing the camera?
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So do you guys think that perhaps Nikon noticed this dead pixel problem and pulled the shipments to try to fix the issue, which of course resulted in this delay?
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Mike Gunter said:
@Metal Bird, at what ISO were you shooting? Was the lighting very low? Bright? Was the camera struggling to produce an image? Do you see these pixels on all videos?
Do you see these pixels on stills?I shot at all ISO and Auto. Obviously very noticeable in dark, all 6 that I could find looking for them. Even in a bright sun lit room that Red one in the center stood out when contrasted with a dark spot, say my daughters hair. I didn't sense any struggle in producing them and it was in all images, at least the main two spots.
I ran to Best Buy to exchange exchange it for the only other one they had there, opened with the customer service guy, did some test shots and ran over to a display Mac and popped the card in there and sure enough, Two hot spots, one very Blue one in the lower left rule of thirds point, so very in a noticeable spot.
So I took that camera and they are sending me to a BB store 60 miles away (in a town that I happen to be going to later this week) and are holding one there for me to test swap.
Playing with it now at home here, there is no getting rid of the one blue spot in the video, all iso and shutters.ALSO I found that blue one to appear in the still images too! Anything over 1600 ISO it appears in.
Very frustrating and disappointing! Totally unacceptable as far as I am concerned. Disappointed indeed.
I am in no dire need for the camera now so it is going back in the box and awaiting yet another exchange. I want two of these to replace the D90 I shoot and compliment the D700 my wife shoots. I want them specifically for the video, if not that then the D90 suites me fine. I hope the one Amazon will send me someday doesn't not have this problem... its looking like a gamble.First adopter or not to the camera, there should not be this many dead pixels in this many cameras! I should not have send a camera in for repair the same day that I buy it! That quality should be there from the get go.
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poster said:
So do you guys think that perhaps Nikon noticed this dead pixel problem and pulled the shipments to try to fix the issue, which of course resulted in this delay?I am hoping so ... but if that is the case wouldn't they tell Best Buy to stop the sales of units already out there, especially when it is even before the release date right?
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Metal Bird said:
I am hoping so ... but if that is the case wouldn't they tell Best Buy to stop the sales of units already out there, especially when it is even before the release date right?I don't know maybe it was already too late to pull the shipment from the route. Once BB got it, the cost of sending all of them would perhaps bee too big of trouble. After that perhaps it became a test batch, just to see what the customer response would be.
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Does the D3100 have this issues for video?
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Luckily I don't have the problem on my camera, everything shoots like a beaut.
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I actually had a second check up and I did notice one blue dot and some yellow pixels (around 5). Four to the left top and one to the bottom right of the liveview & video & still picture (while capped) but I do not see those yellow pixels on any other pictures that I have taken in normal manner. (actually I found one white dot on my high ISO picture just now ...) I'm confused. DO you guys think I should return my camera or will Nikon fix this up when I bring my d7000 to Los Angeles Nikon service center? I'm just afraid that I may get even worse camera when I return this one.
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blckcat said:
I actually had a second check up and I did notice one blue dot and some yellow pixels (around 5). Four to the left top and one to the bottom right of the liveview & video & still picture (while capped) but I do not see those yellow pixels on any other pictures that I have taken in normal manner. (actually I found one white dot on my high ISO picture just now ...) I'm confused. DO you guys think I should return my camera or will Nikon fix this up when I bring my d7000 to Los Angeles Nikon service center? I'm just afraid that I may get even worse camera when I return this one.Hard question--only you can really make that call and balance the pros and cons. I can volunteer more details about my issues, if that helps any (although, I did return mine) . . .
Of the six dead pixels in my D7000, at ISO3200, only the blue pixel was clearly visible. The other five were perhaps 40% as "bright" as the blue pixel, and therefore appeared "smaller" as well (I don't know if they're actually smaller or just dimmer). If I had only the five 40%-bright pixels, I probably would've kept the camera. Even on a 52" screen, you have to "look" for the five less-bright pixels; however, the blue one is very prominent--you don't have to "look" for it at all. The blue pixel appears twice as big, and is almost dead-center in the frame.
I actually expected to see some dead pixels at some point--I just didn't expect it to happen as soon as ISO3200. That said, I also observed that at ISO1600, no dead pixels were visible under normal lighting conditions, shooting mid-tonal range subjects (had I photographed a darker scene at ISO1600, perhaps the blue pixel may have still been visible, but fainter).
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My D7000 only has 1 blue pixel, and its all the way at the bottom right. Its has about 2 "hot" pixels, but they're absolutely tiny and also way off center. I literally have to go to almost or to 100% to even see them. *AND that's only when I take a picture with the lens cap on at 6400 or less so at 3200 ISO.* At any kind of normal ISO, none of the hot pixels show up at all. I really don't see what the big deal is. The second I upload them with Lightroom 3 it automatically removes hot pixels anyways. My D40 had a few hot pixels at high ISO, so maybe I'm just used to it.
Now of course that doesn't help with hot pixels in video mode. I tried a test video with the lens cap on at 6400 ISO and just general live view with the lens cap on at 6400 ISO, and I'm glad to report that I didn't see any hot pixels.
Granted, some of the pictures that have been posted are bad, like the one where you can see the giant blue dot in live view on the monitor at normal magnification, but I feel like this whole issue is being blown way out of proportion by the D7000 frenzy. How often are you really gonna shoot at 6400 ISO in pitch black anyways, and even if you do, like I said most RAW programs edit them out automatically anyway.
I feel like a couple people reported serious, legitimate flaws, and now everyone with 1 hot pixel at 6400 ISO in a pitch black frame is in a state of panic wondering when they're gonna return their "defective" cameras back to BestBuy...
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TickleMyElmo said:
I feel like a couple people reported serious, legitimate flaws, and now everyone with 1 hot pixel at 6400 ISO in a pitch black frame is in a state of panic wondering when they're gonna return their "defective" cameras back to BestBuy...Thanks for adding that. I feel that I had a legitimate issue worth returning. I also know that these posts may have caused undue concern for some. I tried to keep my posts balanced, and hopefully everyone can judge the severity of their own issues with some perspective.
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Normally I wouldn't care about dead pixels. like you said Lightroom removes them automatically. But I wanna give a more serious go for the video making. So i don't want to end up with a pixel situation as studio460 did.
And I agree it's a frenzy out there.
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studio460 said:
Thanks for adding that. I feel that I had a legitimate issue worth returning. I also know that these posts may have caused undue concern for some. I tried to keep my posts balanced, and hopefully everyone can judge the severity of their own issues with some perspective.Yea my first edit was being a little too harsh but not saying what I wanted it to so I added that. I think its more about a bunch of people sitting at the edge of their seat reading NikonRumors cringing, expecting for their to be some massive flaw, and now that you and maybe one or two other people posted one mishap, everybody has flown into a nervous breakdown, like "OMG, that guy has some serious dead/hot pixel problems! I better check my camera with the lens cap on at 6400 ISO on a pitch black frame......Oh...is that...a....RED SPOT! OH MY! THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLLLLINNGGGGG!!!!!!" then proceeds to print out their return shipping label for immediate overnight delivery to Nikon haha...
Half the images in this thread are incredibly minuscule problems. I dont know if its from people that don't know to expect this kind of thing or what. Just a shame that they'll spend hours at a best buy (if they can find one with some in stock) searching for one with 1 or two hot pixels instead of *gasp* four...not to mention all the hassle associated with it, for something that's automatically removed in post anyways, and something that won't even be there when they shoot any kind of semi-normal scene anyways.
I'm just seeing this "hot pixel issue" pop up on a few other sites now, even review sites from people wondering if they should buy the D7000 with the "hot pixel issues" and I just feel like its getting blown way out of proportion by people that don't know any better.
I think once everybody starts to get their D7000 pre-orders, the masses will realize this is not a major issue, and was limited to only a select few like yourself, as with any new camera release, not some massive defect that'll be on recall in two weeks.
I think another issue is people not realizing the difference between a dead pixel and a hot pixel. A hot pixel (or even 4 or 6) at ISO 6400 in pitch black, not a big deal. 4 or 6 dead pixels, and you have a real problem on your hands...
I mean really, if your photographing pitch black frames at 6400 ISO on a normal basis, I'd say you'd have to worry more about finding something legitimate and interesting to photograph instead haha...
Same thing with video, you probably shouldn't be doing video at 6400 ISO in the dark either, sure you can, but you have to realize 6400 is the D7000's realistic max ISO, so people shouldn't expect miracles.
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I must be a psychic. Didn't I predict this would happen. Four or 5 "bad" pixels out of 16 million is NOT a problem. I'm sure many of you have been using a D90 with just as many, if not more, bad pixels and you used your camera for years.
All digital cameras suffer from this. If you look hard enough you will find them. I bet there are even stuck pixels on your computer's LCD screen and you just never noticed them. This is not something that should stop you from buying this camera!
I wonder how many of you would return a Nikon F6 because your photos have dust and scratches on them?
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The only problem I have with my D7000 is it costs $2400 here ! so unfair!
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Thanks Studio.
My other question was that whether if I can go to LA's Nikon Service center to get this hot or stuck pixel mapped out? I don't care about the still's hot/dead/stuck pixel but I do see one semi-clear white dot on my video recording that was done on average lit indoor (Checked on my 22inch monitor and I was able to discover without much attention). Anyone had experiences with LA Nikon Service Center?
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In my case, for the record, I didn't know of any defective pixel issue until I unboxed mine and took a few shots with it. I could even see in the little screen on the camera the two glowing bright spots, I was un aware and not intentionally looking for them, just doing the cliche thing of following the kids around the house and I never walked into a black room. then throwing it onto the computer is was blazingly obvious and more, fainter but present, spots were noticeable on the big screen at normal size.
After that then did I search Google for this and found this ongoing thread here, along with at other forums out there. So my undies were in a bunch before I got onboard here knowing about it. And the hot spots I have on mine are unacceptable... they might be to some people, but to them I offer to trade ... as I will continue to do that with BB until I get a good and acceptable unit, even if it means waiting till the third or forth batch to come around.Posted 2 years ago # -
OneSix said:
Mine got abouot 4 hot pixel. So remapping should fix the problem. Hmm since i live pretty close to the NY Service center, can I walk in instead of mailing the camera?Maybe. I'm not sure whether Nikon permits you to wait while it maps out pixels. Also, I saw on another photo website that PERHAPS free repairs are only done if you have some threshold number of bad pixels...in addition to being within the warranty period. You may (or may not) want to call Nikon prior to sending it in to see if the repair will be free. I frankly don't remember how many pixels I had mapped when I sent my cameras in.
As soon as this becomes an issue for me in real shots (no offense intended to anyone that has a real issue now), I am going to call a local Nikon authorized dealer (in NYC) and see if they have while-you-wait service and what the cost is. If the cost is is not too bad, I may do that instead.
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This really sucks Nikon. I sold my 18-105, just checked for stuck pixels in video (daylight not with cap on) and I found one red and one blue in the top left corner.
Anyone think I can just exchange the camera body to possible get one with no stuck pixels?
Sample:
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j219/m3sport/Screenshot2010-10-18at94254AM.pngPosted 2 years ago # -
Suddenly, the Pentax K-5 at $1599 doesn't seem outlandish anymore, especially since it has in-camera pixel mapping. Run that program, and all dead/hot pixels are gone.
Pentax has had this feature since at least the K20D, which was two models before the K-5. I believe Olympus cameras have had this for a few years now, too. Not sure why Nikon can't add this feature at this price point. Let's hope the D800 will have it!
Being able to do it at home, in camera vs. sending it out is a near priceless feature.
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