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shivaswrath

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The D400 will have significant gains over the D7k, we just can see it now. . .

1. AF Module will certainly be enhanced and trump the D7k. Look at the D200->D300, HUGE leap. . .The D4 and D400 will invariably have the same module, ovbiously DX/FX differences, but will more than likely have larger VF coverage. D7k has only 39 points.

2. AF Speed associated with new module.

3. FPS and shutter life - I suspect the D400 will be on par with the D4, offering 300k shutter life and close to 9fps ungripped.

4. Dual CF (far faster/better than SDHC, I don't know?!)

5. Full weather seal.

6. Exotic body materials - those rumors of CF wouldn't surprise me; instead of plastic, use high-tensile-CF, rubber, and mag alloy?

So I think the needs of a pro will be demand a D400. . .I certainly to miss the DX POV

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Good post shivaswrath. Frankly guys, most of you who say there is no need for a D400 are the same people who thought there was no need to get the D300s over the D90. It's just aimed at a different group of users, and there is nothing wrong with that.

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PB PM, I hope I wasn't misleading. I do see a need for a D400, a DX D400. I just hope that shiv. and myself are correct in our speculations. The D400 is the camera I'm waiting on really. Until something like it comes out, there not much incentive for me to upgrade from my D300 at the moment.

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Gentoo: To both your point, and PB PM's, it's not much of an "upgrade" if, even though it's improved in some respects, it's still missing stuff that's present on the model you've got.

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PB PM

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Gentoo: I was thinking more in terms of TaoTeJared's post and should have made that clearer. To suggest that the D7000 is direct competition to the 7D is a little much. Like the D300s, the 7D has stuff the D7000 just doesn't, like a PC sync port for studio work. Yes, I hear the voices saying, nobody who works in a studio uses crop cameras... blah blah. Seriously? Not all studio photographers are loaded and have FX cameras, maybe in big cities like LA and New York, but in small towns many studio photographers I know shoot with crop sensor cameras.

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TaoTeJared

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shivaswrath is probably close. AF points on a d300/s are 51 already with 3d tracking. I bet we will see a new metering system, AF drive system, battery, FPS in the 9-10 range (with handgrip), and new CF high speed formats. I'm thinking there will be something new with the CLS flash system that hasn't had a major overhaul for 5+ years?

I love DX! 70-200mm VR turns into a 105-300mm 2.8! 85mm 1.8mm turns into a 128mm 1.8- for $350 bucks you can buy the lens. AND you use the sweet spot of the lenses! Both DX and FX have their pros/cons and each has their place. The way I look at it, Noise handling and light gathering will always become better but a 300mm VR 2.8 will never drop to $1,700.

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aslightdelay said:
Gentoo: To both your point, and PB PM's, it's not much of an "upgrade" if, even though it's improved in some respects, it's still missing stuff that's present on the model you've got.

The D400 would be missing things the D300 has?

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PB PM said:
Gentoo: I was thinking more in terms of TaoTeJared's post and should have made that clearer. To suggest that the D7000 is direct competition to the 7D is a little much. Like the D300s, the 7D has stuff the D7000 just doesn't, like a PC sync port for studio work. Yes, I hear the voices saying, nobody who works in a studio uses crop cameras... blah blah. Seriously? Not all studio photographers are loaded and have FX cameras, maybe in big cities like LA and New York, but in small towns many studio photographers I know shoot with crop sensor cameras.

Oh how right you are. In fact, even in some big cities, DX type cameras are often used. D200's and D300's I've seen used before. Especially those photogs who "bring the studio to you. Even wedding photogss sometimes use them so I'm in total agreement with you.

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aslightdelay

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Gentoo said:
The D400 would be missing things the D300 has?

No, I mean if you're talking about "upgrading" to a 7000 for the things it does better than a 300/s.

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Man... Anyone think Nikon will release D400 by March? I'm traveling on March and I'm craving to upgrade from D80... I looked at D800 but it seems to be too much for my needs (just armature, hobby photographer). But D7000's already outdated by Expeed3... I know photographer's skill determines the picture not the camera spec. But its still electronic device and I don't want to spend the same amount of price 2 years ago.
Any rumor yet?

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zlik

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blckcat, the D7000 is already outdated by Expeed3 ? What are you talking about ??

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TaoTeJared

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Announced maybe - released to the public - not a chance.

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blckcat

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zilk - D7000 have Expeed 2. I'm not sure why I put "already", but anyways Nikon upgraded the Expeed 2 to process data better and probably have better algorithms to improve whitebalance, colors and such. I'm just saying it feels like outdated. Think like computer - which are also electronics - D7000 has Core2Duo while the upcoming models like D800, V1 have i7. Because DSLRs are also electronic it just feels outdated and when it's feels outdated, i feel hesitant to buy it.

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I'm also really looking forward to a D400 announcement, but I'm lucky to have the luxury of waiting. Just like computers, you have to buy the best option available when you need it, because there's always going to be something better around the corner. The waiting for the perfect upgrade can be paralyzing, and you could miss out on valuable productivity by waiting for the next cycle (in this case, missing shots you might have gotten with better equipment). If you need a new camera by March, neither the D400 nor the D800 are really options since it seems to take about a month after the announcement to start shipping.

The D7000 is a great camera, but you really just have to decide for yourself if you've got the time to wait for the next generation or not.

As for the processors though, a 16 megapixel camera really doesn't need the same processor as a 36 megapixel one. I'm just guessing, but I would think the D800 would be crippled by the older processor, but the D7000 would only see a marginal improvement with the new one. A new censor and software upgrade will have more of an impact than the processor.

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blckcat said:
zilk - D7000 have Expeed 2. I'm not sure why I put "already", but anyways Nikon upgraded the Expeed 2 to process data better and probably have better algorithms to improve whitebalance, colors and such. I'm just saying it feels like outdated. Think like computer - which are also electronics - D7000 has Core2Duo while the upcoming models like D800, V1 have i7. Because DSLRs are also electronic it just feels outdated and when it's feels outdated, i feel hesitant to buy it.

If you are comparing the camera to a PC, and make purchases based off of that, you will always have outdated technology. No matter when you finally decide to buy. If you chase the technology then you will:

a) Never be happy
b) Go broke

Going from a D80 to D7000 will blow your mind.

Later,
Jeff

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Def +1

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So how about a D800 in DX mode ?

Yes probably more expensive than a D400

but you could

upgrade from Dx to Fx at the touch of a button

you can take full advantage of your all your wide angle Fx lenses and be less critical when framing, if you shoot in Fx mode

the 800 is just 3oz heaver than the 300s

For professional use I can little advantage of a D400 over a D800

if you are not a profession and on tight budget the D7000 seem to be pretty good

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spraynpray

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As an amateur with a few DX lenses seven, I can see around a thousand reasons for getting the D400 over the D800 plus all the 'reasons' I would spend changing those lenses!

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As a many times published amateur with many DX and FX lenses I can see a thousand reasons for getting the D800 over the D400 and using the 16 mp DX subsumed inside the 36 mp FX sensor when desired. With a D800 I can use both my DX and my FX lenses as desired. I can boost the reach of my FX lens by simply "pushing a button" to go into DX crop mode. For example, I can put my 28-300 FX zoom on and transform it into a 42-450mm zoom anytime I want that much reach. And this comment is entirely factual, not philosophical or theoretical.

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I think as an amateur I am more excited for the D400, but I am hoping it is DX and not possibly FX like some thing it might be. But since we haven't seen any features or anything yet I don't have any idea if it would be what I really needed. I don't think I want to move to FX just yet though.

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spraynpray

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I'd bet the D300s replacement (D400 as we are calling it) is DX. Doesn't make any marketing sense for it not to be.

donaldejose: The D800 is too rich ($) for me plus I don't want huge files to store the pics from. 16mp is perfect.

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blckcat

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JForhan said:
If you are comparing the camera to a PC, and make purchases based off of that, you will always have outdated technology. No matter when you finally decide to buy. If you chase the technology then you will:

a) Never be happy
b) Go broke

Going from a D80 to D7000 will blow your mind.

Later,
Jeff

Hey, I did consider D7000. In fact, I used to own one but returned it after 3 weeks of use. I had a second thought of returning it and investing a little more later and get D400. So... I know how it feels like to use D7000. And yeah, comparing camera to computers are quite a distance but both have one common ground: Digital product. Digital product will get outdated eventually as you said. That's why I want newly released camera; not the one that had been released nearly two years ago so that I'd be happy I have new tech. I'm just being careful and try to get every bit of money I spend since near $2,000 is a lot of money for me... a college student.
BTW thanks for the advice. D7000 did blow my mind back then. But my greed tells me I need to get D400........

D800 seems too much for my needs. It does have competitive edge over other DX cameras for the professionals.. but not for me. Also having some DX lenses, I will have trouble getting rid of them... I don't think I'd want to use DX mode a lot with FX camera. That just throws away the purpose of buying FX...

I hope Nikon release D400 soon though.. Until then I guess I'd stick with my good ol' D80.. which is perfectly fine during the day.

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I felt the same about the D800 and was waiting for a D400. If the D400 had come out first I would have bought it. But I am just too enticed by various blog comments, for example this one: "After spending a month with the D800, I'll never be the same again. I will now think differently about the images I make, and perhaps that is the best compliment any photographer can make. http://jimbrandenburg.blogspot.com/ Brandenburg's credentials cannot be beat. And the full size images I have seen from the D800 are most impressive.

If 16mp is perfect you have that now with the D7000 and the D5100. Likely the D400 will be more, such as a new 24mp DX sensor. So you will have larger file sizes to deal with no matter what you do. Shoot your everyday pics in JPEG basic and you will get vastly reduced file sizes.

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blckcat

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I am willing to pay more for better ergonomics, slightly better ISO, white balance, AF, and faster continuous shooting. Which I believe D400 will have.(may be not the ISO) I don't mind it being DX nor FX.. If its FX and price is low, I'll buy it ;)

I'll have my bet on it being $1999.99.... may be Nikon might release D400E as well since its DX flagship?

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Nikoner

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As a primarily sports photographer, I too was waiting for D700 replacement or a D400 whichever comes first, but after looking at D800 specs/reviews/pictures I have changed my mind. I am willing to realign my shooting/post-processing habits to suite D800, and in exchange I will liberate D800 from a cookie cutter stereo typing so common only in America.

/Rant On.

Started with Ford T only comes in black
boys wear blue (else you are gay)
girls wear pink (else you are a tomboy, thus lesbian)
If you go shopping for a shirt, your choices are: stripes or checkers or plain (and that too only certain colors dominate)
If you are corporate kind, then either a black or dark blue suite for you.

WTF America, Individuality is only touted but hardly practiced, they actually strip you off your individuality and turn you into a zombie.

/Rant Off.

Posted 1 year ago #