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NikoDoby

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This newly announced camera was hijacking another thread (http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=2550#post-43513) so I think it obviously deserves it's own thread. So here you go. It has a 12mp APS-C sized sensor, fixed focal length and non-removeable 23mm f2 lens, and it also has both an electronic and optical viewfinder! You can switch between the two. I suspect the sensor is the "same" Sony sensor found on the D90/D300/Leica X1 even though Fuji says its there own.

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Here's a shot of what the view through the finder looks like
http://enticingthelight.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Fuji-X100-at-Photokina-06.jpg

The bad news is that it's expected to be priced around $1500USD! :^(

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I wonder if you can turn off that electrical overlay from the viewfinder.

sigh.... Can't afford it.

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NikoDoby

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I'm guessing no, but I'm not 100% on that. It's a very nice pocketable "pro" camera. It's slightly bigger than the Leica X1 but if you can afford it's rumored price then your pockets are already plenty big :^)

Fuji says this camera delivers the greatest image quality in the history of their Finepix camera line! Although it's a Fuji so that's not really saying much :^) Just kidding Fuji, kinda.

Do ya think Nikon would ever give us such a "compact" camera?

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LOL way to dis Fuji. That made me burst out laughing. Good one Niko!

You know I am kind of tempted to get it. But the price is killing me. I could get myself a fine Nikkor lens with that money. Arghh... It would be a fantastic camera for street photography.

I don't think Nikon would deliver something like this to us. We would probably get another Coolpix super zoom compact camera. =[

Also i love the fact that it has a hotshoe!

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Really great design and interesting choice on the fixed lens, wasn't expecting that at all. Certainly absurdly out of my price range though, to the extent that I feel weird even discussing the camera.

EDIT: I guess I should say, well out of my price range, for what it is.

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Would love one :-) its just about perfect for me.. maybe a 28mm lens instead of a 23mm but that is ok because the size is smaller I think.. but price is a bit steep!

Still it sure puts a glimmer of hope in the appearance of a DSLR S5pro successor...

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$1,500!? what the...

Why not just get an EP-2

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Wow, I was expecting $800-1000. Then again it is a tough metal body, is made in Japan, and has a fast somewhat wide angel lens.

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I think I know why I have such an affection for this.. I loved my old pen...

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adamz

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it looks great, but in this price range I'll go for leica, certainly it's not nex killer - not to mention the fact that it has non removable lens. as for the sensor I wouldn't be surprised if it's not sony's but fuji's own.

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The styling of this camera is all out sexy. I love Nikon's DSLRs, but as a compact this one is amazing. Price is a bit steep, but since my next major photo purchases won't be until next March, maybe it will come down far enough (say sub $1,000) to make it something I would pick up.

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On the other thread we were hijacking we got to discussing the +/-2 compensation. I still find this a bit funny to even have on camera that can easily be full manual. From the control set up it is obviously designed to shoot in full manual mode as a primary use.

I spent most of my years shooting a Canon AE-1, so I am used to doing manual compensation. Compose, meter, compensate, compose, shoot. Pretty simple. This looks like the same set up with the advantage of immediate feed back on how the compensation worked.

I think Nico was right, people just look for one thing on each camera to complain about. Design is all about compromise. A camera with no compromises would not make anyone happy and would cost the same as the space shuttle. People would still complain.

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I like it a lot too. Too bad I can't afford it. If I were to get a new body, it'd be the D7000 for sure.

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Hi,

It looks cooler than anything, but my 'needs' verses 'wants' thing can't jump it on my list.

My best to all,

Mike

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Looks like there may be some dispute over the price, Engadget is reporting that it will be only $1000 US, not $1500. Still steep, but not as bad.

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The Fuji rep that Engadget spoke to said they were hoping for a March 2011 release. He didn't want to talk about the price but when they persisted he gave a vague answer that the camera would be near $1000. So that could mean $600 or $800 but it also could mean $1200 or $1400 too. This camera will probably have very limited production numbers so I'm going to guess it'll be above $1000 dollars.

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I can understand Fuji being a bit skittish; they mentioned not being sure of the demand for this kind of camera, which is why they're keeping production numbers low, and having fixed versus interchangeable lenses. With that said, I only hope that they don't produce 500 of these, and then not produce more and/or bring the price down because, "Well, we only sold 500 of them."

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500 is too small of a production number. The viewfinder seems complex and they'd have to sell more than that to recover their R&D and manufacture cost. I think Fuji has been caught off guard by the positive reaction that camera is getting. They might boost production numbers to lower the price a bit than what they were planning. That's probably why they don't want to talk about the price because they were waiting to judge consumer reactions first.

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Sorry, should've been clearer; my point wasn't that they'd literally produce that number, so much as lowball their production numbers then complain when they "only" moved that many units.

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Yeah that's what I meant too. They want to see what the interest is before they start talking price and production numbers. Unless someone else like Panasonic or Nikon make a similar metal body with similar styling but in an EVIL format I think Fuji will sell a lot of these cameras. I have a feeling we will see that dual viewfinder technology in more cameras.

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i was gonna post in here but thought as it's not nikon i shouldn't.

from my post on photo runours;

this looks very interesting.

Just need to see how it performs wide open at iso2000.

no-body else seems to think this is important.

i need a small camera that performs well (better than anything small available now) at high iso’s.

the oldskool iso dial is a great idea if it’s Great at iso 2000 and very good at iso4000. otherwise i will sorely miss all of those little stops in between.

why is it f2

because almost no-one who is not very good with a camera will be happy shooting f/1.4. I am pretty sure they don’t want complaints from people who don’t know how to shoot f1.4, and i’m sure a lot of those people will buy this camera.

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That dual VF is one of the coolest things about the Fuji (and probably one of the things contributing to its cost). Well, that and the body design, which I really like. While I like innovation when it comes to the guts and the performance, I'd love to see Nikon's EVIL camera draw on their rangefinder heritage, at least from an aesthetic standpoint.

EDIT: If Sigma can get $700 for the DP2s -- and its "14 MP" sensor that's actually, what, 4 MP and some change -- with no VF, no titanium, et cetera, I'm thinking there's not a snowball's chance in hell this will come in under $1000.

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JorPet said:
On the other thread we were hijacking we got to discussing the +/-2 compensation...

I spent most of my years shooting a Canon AE-1, so I am used to doing manual compensation. Compose, meter, compensate, compose, shoot. Pretty simple. This looks like the same set up with the advantage of immediate feed back on how the compensation worked.

In spot meter mode - and knowing you want to put her hair highlights in zone 8, dial in +3 EV compensation, center spot on highlight, lock EV, compose, shoot.
Four steps, and more importantly, four steps you can do quickly w/o looking at any numbers during your shooting.
To each there own, but...

JorPet said:
I think Nico was right, people just look for one thing on each camera to complain about. Design is all about compromise.

I don't see how this is a design compromise, it is a deliberate withholding of functionality. Functionality which is free on an electronic camera. Where does the design need to change to allow a full five stops of compensation?
It wouldn't be a deal-breaker for me on a "carry around" camera, but it burns my ass that companies play the artificial market segmentation game like that.

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I love the design and if I win the lotto I would buy one but the single focal length is limiting.

Give me something that looks like this, with replaceable primes with f1.8s and camera + 3 primes (35,50,80 ff equiv) for $2k total and that is something I would get.

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Nice retro look and I hope they sell a ton of them,giving Nikon a little shove maybe ;)...I personally would have no use for one unless I was a collector.

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