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ShadeofBlue

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jbl said:
Ok so.. here's the picture again:

http://nikonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/nikon-d7000.jpg

This is more like a D90 upgrade that offers more features than expected. Notice the mode dial with the other dial behind it.. that's better than nothing.. but I wish my future camera didn't have those shitty automatic modes that I'll never use.. I use aperture mode at most.

But now look at this. My ISO and WB button are more like the D90... I hoped they kept the D300 way of doing this one..

WHERE IS THE AF-ON BUTTON?? NOOOOO

In order to gain video and better low light now, I lose af-on, my iso and wb buttons, possibly a 100% viewfinder (hard to believe the d7000 will have this).. and what else? I guess I'm gonna have to do this compromise.

I'm sure you will be able to reprogram the AF-L button to be AF-on, even my D60 can do that. Of course if you want both, you'll have to wait for the D400 :P.

Also, I am sure D90s will drop in price. They are already around $650 used, I'd expect them to be around $500 within a few months of the D7000's release. Apparently that is what happened with the D80, anyway.

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i don't see how this will replace the D300s body. . .

a worth D90 replacement, but look at the left knob - it has all the consumer-based settings, so we'll still have a Pro-Dx body (D400) next year. Which is nice.

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shivaswrath said:
i don't see how this will replace the D300s body. . .

a worth D90 replacement, but look at the left knob - it has all the consumer-based settings, so we'll still have a Pro-Dx body (D400) next year. Which is nice.

I agree, it's also lacking the dedicated AF-on button, like mentioned, and a dial for metering selection, and af mode selection (not referring to m/af-s/af-c, but selecting between using all, some or only 1 af sensor, like the D300 and up have). This is definitely a D90 replacement, and with some nice extra features by the sound of it.

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I'm totally new to DSLR and deciding between Canon 60D and Nikon D7000. Either of those will be my first DSLR -- a huge jump from Canon IS S3 series.

I love the articulated screen of Canon 60D, but it seems D7000 has a lot more to offer. Could you guys tell me the pros and cons of these two models? I can't decide which one would be better for my $1500 budget (camera + lens(es)).

Thanks!

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assuming the image isn't a fake (which it would be kind of bizarre if it was...) I wonder if that will be the kit lens? I don't know why it wouldn't be, but I'm still interested.
It seems weird to have a kit with a body this expensive, but the d90 did too didn't it? Do bodies above the d90 level have basic kits? (ie kits from nikon not random cobbled together kits from bh or adorama). It may seem stupid to some people as the glass obviously isn't that great, but for someone like me who is switching systems, but has a large collection of old fmount glass (all manual) having one (albeit cheaper) "all purpose-everyday" type of lens would be nice. Especially when I don't want to take anything heavy or worry about focusing (which I guess now goes for video.

I think when I want to shoot something seriously I would still use my other glass, but it would be nice to have something relatively easy and simple to take around as well.

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I guess I was assuming that I would be able to get the 18-200 as a kit lens with the D7000. Any guesses as to whether that's likely?

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Well sites always sell other "kits", but as far as I know (and I might be totally wrong on this)Nikon generally just has one official "kit". The d90 came with that lens too.

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Wow, that looks like it has way too many buttons and dials for the smaller D90 body, but that's just IMO. As others have pointed out, this likely means we are still going to see a D400, thankfully. Looks like a good upgrade to the D90 though.

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Alastair said:
I guess I was assuming that I would be able to get the 18-200 as a kit lens with the D7000. Any guesses as to whether that's likely?

I'd say it's 18-105 solid. Even the D7k photo shows 105 at the longer end. (if it's real of course). You're always welcome to buy the body only option tho, and get 18-200. :-)

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foofiebeast said:
assuming the image isn't a fake (which it would be kind of bizarre if it was...) I wonder if that will be the kit lens? I don't know why it wouldn't be, but I'm still interested.
It seems weird to have a kit with a body this expensive, but the d90 did too didn't it? Do bodies above the d90 level have basic kits?

If the image is real, the fact that it's pictured with an 18-105 might be a decent indication of what the kit lens would be. The 90 had it, so it's logical in some sense that its replacement might use the same kit lens. Consider:

*The 18-55 might be viewed as a sort of step down for a more advanced body (I know, it's a good lens, but it might be looked at that way by some people)

*There hasn't been anything announced in a likely DX "kit" range for the upcoming lenses

*I'm thinking if there wasn't going to be a kit lens with the camera, they might've pictured it with a non-zoom lens (say, a 35 or 85) so as not to give the impression it would sell as a kit.

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Welcome to the forum, paeataa.

If it were any other two cameras, I'd say that you'll probably get people advocating for Nikon on the Nikon board, and Canon on the Canon board. :) However, I've been looking at some of the feedback on the Canon boards and it looks like there're some seriously disappointed people over there re: the 60D.

With that said, some of the disappointment comes from the fact that the 60D is a step down in many respects from the camera it's replacing. I think you'd probably be hearing a similar wailing and gnashing of teeth hereabouts if the D7000 had been missing features the D90 had, versus having upgraded them. So a bit depends on where you're coming from. Coming from a P&S as you -- and I -- are, it's a bit different than if you're waiting for something to be an upgrade of the DSLR you've already got.

My advice, for what it's worth: unless you need it yesterday, wait 'til both cameras actually hit the stores and have been reviewed. One or more sites will likely not only review the cameras on their own, but also head-to-head. Also decide which features are most important to you (for example, if it's video over stills, Canon's probably the way to go, but even then, the T2i may be the better bet from what I'm hearing). You may also decide that another camera in either manufacturer's line is worth a closer look because of cost, ergonomics, et cetera.

Hope this helps a bit.

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I, myself was considering going for Canon 60D as my first DSLR (going from superzoom type compact), until I seen the specs. It's not that it's a bad camera (it's actually very good!). It's just way too expensive for it's features. If you're not interested in video, than a WAY cheaper and better option is the 50D.

Hence the "step back" from Canon.

Quite the opposite happens (will happen?) with Nikon. They've gone up with the price AND the specs. From what is seems this will be a little more expensive than 60D with much better features (at least on paper). I think I just found my first DSLR :-)

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Frontal pictures are on the blog ... man that is a good looking Nikon AGAIN !!! I also like the new SB-700 ...

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Vall said:
I, myself was considering going for Canon 60D as my first DSLR

You know Vall, those are fighting words in these parts. :-)

The D7000 looks like a great camera, but is it a D300 series replacement, I doubt it. Much can be improved upon in a D400 DX camera. This camera appears to be a home-run for a D90 replacement, but for a D300s, I'd say it is a disappointment. It is missing the focus button and focus selector switch, 39 point AF vs. 52 point AF is a letdown as well, and no compact flash. Rumor also has it that the D7000 will not have a focus motor for non-AF-S lenses which is also a huge negative. Maybe Nikon does plan to merge the two, but not in this go-around, the market will support a $1,800 DX camera.

My thinking as to why Nikon increased the price, and feature set the way they did is because they discovered there were many photographers who did not want to pay the D300 price, and bought the D90 instead. I personally know several who did exactly that, and they figured to capitalize on the trend.

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pabnj said:
You know Vall, those are fighting words in these parts. :-)

I suppose they are. :D

But the truth is, I waited for both, Canon and Nikon to show their best at the top-consumer level. Now at least I got a clear sign what to buy. ;-)

And I do hope the AF motor is present in D7000! Would be an enormous minus.

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aslightdelay said:
Welcome to the forum, paeataa.

If it were any other two cameras, I'd say that you'll probably get people advocating for Nikon on the Nikon board, and Canon on the Canon board. :) However, I've been looking at some of the feedback on the Canon boards and it looks like there're some seriously disappointed people over there re: the 60D.

With that said, some of the disappointment comes from the fact that the 60D is a step down in many respects from the camera it's replacing. I think you'd probably be hearing a similar wailing and gnashing of teeth hereabouts if the D7000 had been missing features the D90 had, versus having upgraded them. So a bit depends on where you're coming from. Coming from a P&S as you -- and I -- are, it's a bit different than if you're waiting for something to be an upgrade of the DSLR you've already got.

My advice, for what it's worth: unless you need it yesterday, wait 'til both cameras actually hit the stores and have been reviewed. One or more sites will likely not only review the cameras on their own, but also head-to-head. Also decide which features are most important to you (for example, if it's video over stills, Canon's probably the way to go, but even then, the T2i may be the better bet from what I'm hearing). You may also decide that another camera in either manufacturer's line is worth a closer look because of cost, ergonomics, et cetera.

Hope this helps a bit.

Thanks!

My major concerns are photos taking at a very low light scene. I've been told that Nikon does a better job on noise control than Canon. But the video feature with articulating screen of the 60D are very nice!

Anyhow, I'll wait to try both of them in a store and read more reviews about them before making a final decision. Hopefully, the prices go down a bit around Thanksgiving so that I can afford either of them with a lens. :)

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Vall said:
I suppose they are. :D

But the truth is, I waited for both, Canon and Nikon to show their best at the top-consumer level. Now at least I got a clear sign what to buy. ;-)

And I do hope the AF motor is present in D7000! Would be an enormous minus.

I hope it is, too. They've upgraded so much else on this camera it seems counterintuitive not to have an AF motor.

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aslightdelay said:
I hope it is, too. They've upgraded so much else on this camera it seems counterintuitive not to have an AF motor.

True. But that could be yet another feature avalible only for pro level DX dslrs..
I don't really imagine that, but I'm a bit afraid of it.

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So far I am liking what I am seeing posted on the blog ... especially the magnesium alloy body is a plus ... as far as the full specs, I guess we'll have to wait a couple more hours lol ... (hopefully only a couple more hours)

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Vall said:
True. But that could be yet another feature avalible only for pro level DX dslrs..
I don't really imagine that, but I'm a bit afraid of it.

but it would be strange given that it WAS present in the non pro d90. That would be a pretty big dissapointment. We'll know soon enough.

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foofiebeast said:
but it would be strange given that it WAS present in the non pro d90. That would be a pretty big dissapointment. We'll know soon enough.

aslightdelay said:
I hope it is, too. They've upgraded so much else on this camera it seems counterintuitive not to have an AF motor.

That is probably how they made the room for the magnesium alloy body since it does not appear the body is any bigger than the current D90, but we'll know for certain in a little over 6 more hours.

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Few more hours until we find out if it has fine tuning as well.. That would be a big plus. But from what I'm reading so far. Impressive as it is, this is the one option that I think would shoot it closer to pro and I don't think they want it to go that far so I'm not gonna get my hopes up.

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hey all time is getting closer to the release...is there any rumour on the weight of the body...i hope its not heavier than d90...if its the same weight i am sold for this camera

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Hey folks. been following this for a while but this is my first post here.

Looking at things that are known in size, such as the hot shoe and the screen, this is definatly bigger than the d90 in every dimention, however it is not a staggering increase in size. Most of the increase is in the height of the camera, and the thickness of the camera. It also appears to be a tiny bit wider, but not much.

it is definatly smaller than the D300s.

I dont think fitting an AF motor in this will be that big of an effort. Even with the magnesium body.

What i would be suprised with though is if it actually has a 100% viewfinder coverage. Cause that DOES require a larger prism and would make for a larger body.

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Workodactyl said:
Few more hours until we find out if it has fine tuning as well.. That would be a big plus. But from what I'm reading so far. Impressive as it is, this is the one option that I think would shoot it closer to pro and I don't think they want it to go that far so I'm not gonna get my hopes up.

what exactly is fine tuning? This will be my first nikon (digital) body, so a few nikon features are new to me.

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