So the D7000 will be the D90 "replacement". Maybe I'll add it to my collection and have the D70, D700, and D7000 :^)
Specs:
16.7mp
XX AF points
1080 HD video
X fps
$XX99 body only
XXX-XXXXX ISO range
where there’s smoke there’s forum fire
So the D7000 will be the D90 "replacement". Maybe I'll add it to my collection and have the D70, D700, and D7000 :^)
Specs:
16.7mp
XX AF points
1080 HD video
X fps
$XX99 body only
XXX-XXXXX ISO range
I Closed the other "D90 Replacement Discussion" thread and I'm replacing it with this one. I'll update the specs here as soon as they become "public".
Old discussion can be found here:
http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=2368
You forgot to add D7 :D
looks very promising, although it may also mean the end to d300s replacement, if they skyrocket the parameters. unless they skyrocket the price of d7000 (1299.00 - body only perhaps)
I hope I live long enough to see a D7! ;^)
I think the price will most definitely be more expensive then the D90.
looks very promising, although it may also mean the end to d300s replacement, if they skyrocket the parameters. unless they skyrocket the price of d7000 (1299.00 - body only perhaps)
I don't know about anyone else, but if they did, it would make my life easier ;-) I've been prognosticating for a while over the D90 replacement or D300s. A straight replacement for both would be great - I'd just have to save longer...
I'm quite curious, excited, and a bit apprehensive about the possible merger of the D90 and D300 into one line.
I'm a huge fan of the D200/300/700 body and would be disappointed if it were to die off in this merger. I also fear a divergence in the DX and FX "prosumer" lines. There are very few differences in the D300 and D700 feature set, and I like that too.
It will be disappointing if (IF) the 90 and 300 merge AND IF features such as the expanded bracketing range, mirror lock up, interval timer, PC sync terminal, historic lens metering, etc. go away forever to FX land.
WTF????
Is this true? Are you guys just breaking my balls here? So there will be an "affordable" FX DSLR?
F**cking sweet!!!
Can't wait to see what this baby can do!
While I think it's entirely possible to see a merger of the 90 and 300, I just can't see Nikon shooting itself in the foot by getting rid of the features you listed. I think the pro market for DX (at least as far as Nikon goes) would vanish if they left that large of a divide between DX and FX.
We'll find out soon enough, for better or worse.
It's the D5000 that seems to have no place in the lineup now that the 3000 has been upgraded to a "modern" sensor.
Despite the tilt-screen, I always saw the largest differentiation between the 3000 and 5000 to be sensor generation. Now that the 3xxx is on the new gen I'm curious if:
3000 -> 3100
5000 -> graveyard
90 -> 5100
300 -> 7000
and before anyone says "but, but, but, the D7000 is the D90 replacement" you can view it as:
3000+ -> 3100
5000+ -> 5100
90+ -> 7000
300 -> graveyard
So now I really don't know what to do. On my website, you'll see two things...indoors with studio strobes, and outdoors with available light. I do have an SB800, an SB600, and some Alien Bees with a Vagabond battery pack, but when I'm outdoors, I positively hate having to use lights. I love available light, so the most important thing to me with any new camera is how it performs at higher ISO's. I have a D200 and if I need a back-up, I borrow my son's D80. My D200 is fantastic up to 640 and pretty o.k. at 800. The D3s is out of my range, so I was waiting to see what a D700 would drop to in price when it's replacement came out(which is beginning to seem like it never will!). From what I've read, it sounds like the new D3100 would out perform my D200 in low light, and this new D90 replacement would be better yet. What's your opinion on what I've said, and what price would you guess this D90 replacement might come in at? Thanks.
Jon
Funny thing is, looking at the specs for the 7000 vs. the original 300, a used or reconditioned 300 is starting to look like a really good buy if you don't need video.
D300 (vs. D90)
51 AF points/15 cross (vs. 39 for 7000)
Magnesium-alloy body (same, and hopefully with same level of sealing)
12 MP sensor (16MP sensor)
No video (vs. rumored 1080p)
6 FPS native burst (same)
ISO range: Lo 100-Hi 6400 (lo 100/hi 25600)
920,000 dot VGA LCD (same)
Built in AF motor (same)
Dual card slots (same)
100% viewfinder (same)
Price: $1199 for body only (same)
Assuming the rumored specs are correct, the edge clearly goes to the 7000 on megapixels, video, a newer processor, and also -- on paper at least, though probably also in practice -- in ISO performance. However, in many other respects, they're either identical or the 300 has a slight edge. What am I missing here?
@aslightdelay:
Almost every point in which the 300>90 is a feature w/o a spec rumor yet for the D90. I think it's a bit early to say the edge clearly goes either way.
So, can someone convince me not to buy D300s over D7000? or maybe D300s replacement? :(... I think i'll be using whatever I buy for next two years. I have 70-200 VR 1, 35mm f 0.8, & 16-85vr. Purpose of buying above cameras?: just hobby, but a little serious hobby :) I want power.
Drab said:
It's the D5000 that seems to have no place in the lineup now that the 3000 has been upgraded to a "modern" sensor.Despite the tilt-screen, I always saw the largest differentiation between the 3000 and 5000 to be sensor generation. Now that the 3xxx is on the new gen I'm curious if:
3000 -> 3100
5000 -> graveyard
90 -> 5100
300 -> 7000and before anyone says "but, but, but, the D7000 is the D90 replacement" you can view it as:
3000+ -> 3100
5000+ -> 5100
90+ -> 7000
300 -> graveyard
May be the reason for Nikon to remove a line up is to add a new line up like D0.1? (AKA MEDIUM FORMAT FLAGSHIP?! ...sry bad joke)
Sometimes Mr. Thom Hogan just scares me how accurate he is.
"D7000--update the D90." Original post: 7/13/2009
http://www.bythom.com/nikonroadmap.htm
Don't be so quick to give TH credit Jared. TH's "source" is often times Nikonrumors :^)
Plus in that same post he also "predicted" the "D2000" and "D4000" would have been here already. And the I believe he also said Nikon would bless us with a "D10" which never happened either.
And before anyone gives TH credit for "predicting" the "D800", that number was originally rumored over two years ago for what eventually became the D700.
AslightD, your comparison doesn't make sense because the original D300 didn't have dual card slots nor did it have a price of $1199 body only. The D300 was originally $1800 when first introduced and that was for body only!!!
No doubt it’s listed somewhere on NR.. but have just jumped on this post in a hurry.
When will the D7000 hit the streets. ??
All of the talk of the D90 & D300 merging is as likely as Nikon starting to sell vacuum cleaners.
Reasons: 1. Their body lineup matches Cannon's to be able to compete in the market
2. There has always been 5 main price points/ Body designs for Nikon. One more
were added to compete with Canon's 5D line but I consider that with the D300
since they basically share the same accessories and body design.
3. Canon added the 7D to compete with the D300 gap that Nikon owned since the
D100. Canon would not have added it if there wasn't a market for it and I
doubt Nikon would just "give up" without going head to head.
Now the line up looks complete and lines up (With canon adding the 7D) with Canon.
Low Consumer (D40, D3000)
Consumer(D40x, D5000)
Hobby(D70,D90, D7000)
Prosumer(D300)
Pro Small body (D700)
Pro High speed(D2H, D3, D3s)
-Pro High Res (D3x)
Maybe the "D4" will actually be the D7 and will be released with an F7, as well. Just so you could add that to your list. Think of the marketing leap over Canon when canon eventually decides to climb out of the 1D naming hole they've dug for themselves:
Canon: announces 2D (or why not just skip to 2D mark II? Either way...)
Nikon: announces D7. Yoinks! That's, like, 5 better, Scoob! And for dessert, the F7 and D700x.
Okay, seriously, it's not so unbelievable that they'll skip D4, though. Isn't '4' a homophone for death in one of those Asian languages?
"Jinkies!" But Shaggy they didn't skip the F4 and that's one of their best cameras.
@Jared
1. Nikon's line up never really went directly with canon. The 10-50D line of cameras never really competed against the D100-300. Until as you point out canon brings out the 7D. And what does canon do with the 60D? They strip it of it's metal body and put it up against the "D90" but Nikon is the D7000 really a 60D competitor or is the 7D?
2. The D300 was never meant to compete against the 5D. The 5D was "unchallenged" until the D700 showed up.
3. True canon made the 7D to head off the D300 but that's perfect for Nikon to bring out a "D500" full frame for the same price! That would really stick it to canon!
Do the specs of the D7000 really sound like a "hobby" camera? Sounds more like a "prosumer" to me.
jonnyapple said:
But would you have said a week ago that it's likely that the D3000 and D5000 would be merged? We shall see what we shall see.
Not a chance. Two years ago both Canon and Nikon users were complaining where each had product lines that didn't match. Now they match and if you look at it, which two still don't have a mirror-less cameras yet either. As much as people compare the differences, these two are much closer than anyone wants to admit.
I don't think the D3000 and D5000 will merge. I think the entire DX000 line is already a line. The D3100 can be followed by the D3200, D3300 etc. the D5000 will be replaced by the D5100 etc. This gives Nikon a few more numbers to play around with since the DX0 line is out of numbers and the Dx00 DX line "only" has the "D400" and "D500" before things start to clash with the FX line of D700. Besides the D700 is "just" a D100 series camera with a full frame sensor right?
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