The camera can be fun high IQ with a prime lens, with high ISO, DR etc, that no compact can do, and you can have a camera that is actual smaller than lets say a Nikon P100 with some zoom
But I'm honestly more interested in the Camcorder version
Pete
Sony NEX 3 & 5 "EVIL" Cameras Officially Official
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jonnyapple said:
I don't think an APS-C 'compact' is for you, then, NSX. These lenses are probably pushing the limits on size for lenses that can cover that image circle.PB PM said:
Thats what I find funny. People are asking for these EVIL cameras with APS-C sensor, but they also want smaller lenses? That does not work, it is a matter of physics, the glass has to be that big to cover the image circle without too much vignetting. If you want smaller lenses, you need micro 4/3s or a point and shoot.But I never said I wanted a APS-C sensor sized camera to begin with.
I know bigger sensors need bigger lenses, just look at FX.
I've said in the past, I like the Canon S90 or the Lumix LX3 because it's a good compromise. I don't want to invest in a new system.
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Another feature that will be a first for a "DSLR/EVIL" camera is the great panorama feature. It works very well on their point&shoots and it should be a lot of fun on with quality glass. AND it'll be in 3D!
The NEX series will also have auto HDR mode and combine pictures with up to 6ev difference. So you'll be able to shoot HDR pictures straight out of the camera.
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NSXType-R said:
But I never said I wanted a APS-C sensor sized camera to begin with.I know bigger sensors need bigger lenses, just look at FX.
I've said in the past, I like the Canon S90 or the Lumix LX3 because it's a good compromise. I don't want to invest in a new system.
Those are point&shoots with typical terrible high ISO performance. You'll get noisy pictures from ISO 400 and up. Forget about getting up to 3200 or 6400 much less 12800!
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NikoDoby said:
Nikon has patents on lenses that would use a sensor about the size of old 110 film. Slightly smaller than m4/3rds. So if Nikon takes those patents into production then they will have very small lenses on a small camera but with a small sensor too. Even the old 110 film was pretty noisy when you'd make enlargements so I'm not thrilled of the idea of such a small digital sensor. Think COOLPIX, think typical point&shoot :^(And it might not have alot of megapixels. Notice how the m4/3rd cameras are all pretty much "just" 12mp. But if Nikon works it's magic and gets awesome image quality then we will see how things fall into place.
Here's a list of the lenses with a 2.5X crop that Nikon has patents on.
32 mm f/1.2
14mm f/2.8
18mm f/1.4
30-107mm f/4-5.6
10.5-107mm f/3.3-6
10.5-108mm f/2.8-6
9-42.6mm f/2.8 – 5.6
10.5-107mm f/2.8 – 5.9This would without doubt be a very cute camera and lens set, but would you buy it in comparison to what Sony has made with APS-C, I think the smaller sensor could make a great G11 killer P6000 replacement with app 3-4 power zoom
Pete
And BTW thanks again for your Apology, the Pro Flash is next
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NikoDoby said:
Nikon has patents on lenses that would use a sensor about the size of old 110 film. Slightly smaller than m4/3rds. So if Nikon takes those patents into production then they will have very small lenses on a small camera but with a small sensor too. Even the old 110 film was pretty noisy when you'd make enlargements so I'm not thrilled of the idea of such a small digital sensor. Think COOLPIX, think typical point&shoot :^(And it might not have alot of megapixels. Notice how the m4/3rd cameras are all pretty much "just" 12mp. But if Nikon works it's magic and gets awesome image quality then we will see how things fall into place.
Here's a list of the lenses with a 2.5X crop that Nikon has patents on.
32 mm f/1.2
14mm f/2.8
18mm f/1.4
30-107mm f/4-5.6
10.5-107mm f/3.3-6
10.5-108mm f/2.8-6
9-42.6mm f/2.8 – 5.6
10.5-107mm f/2.8 – 5.9This would without doubt be a very cute camera and lens set, but would you buy it in comparison to what Sony has made with APS-C, I think the smaller sensor could make a great G11 killer P6000 replacement with app 3-4 power zoom
Pete
And BTW thanks again for your Apology, the Pro Flash is next
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@Pete - A typical "pro flash" like an Ailen Bees or Norman unit definitely has a fan. Just sayin'...
@NikoDoby said: "I'm not thrilled of the idea of such a small digital sensor. Think COOLPIX, think typical point&shoot..."
Agree generally, but even a 2.5 crop sensor is much larger than what one would find in any current Coolpix or "typical point & shoot"...
...but also true that F mount lenses aren't going to be very useful on the new baby Nikon...should they go that route...
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Dead season for Nikon rumors for some time so everyone is trilled about this Sony newborn, cute camera. Now we have Samsung and Sony EVEL thingies with better APS-C sensors, it seams μ4/3 killers are here.
But I am personally looking forward for something pocket friendly and this Sony, no matter how slick it is, is far from it if you attach the lens and it does not even have a built in flash.
I would kind of really like new Nikon 1/2.5 crop camera to show up, I know ISO performance would not be as good as APS-C but if you look at Canon S90 or G11 they give pretty decent images up to ISO 800 and this Nikon would have 33% larger surface sensor (hopefully back illuminated) so it should be at last as good but with more pixels (12Mpix Nikon traditional ;). Just imagine S90 sized body with built in commander flash (and hand grip please) with small, light, interchangeable Nikon lenses, yummy!Posted 3 years ago # -
mb said:
Nikon would have 33% larger surface sensor (hopefully back illuminated) so it should be at last as good but with more pixels (12Mpix Nikon traditional ;). Just imagine S90 sized body with built in commander flash (and hand grip please) with small, light, interchangeable Nikon lenses, yummy!
Actual it would be app 300% larger, Canon G11 is 23MP/cm2 at 10MP and Olympus Pen is 5MP/cm2 the new Nikon Sensor should be app 6.25MP/cm2 both at 12MP
Pete
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mb said:
Just imagine S90 sized body with built in commander flash (and hand grip please) with small, light, interchangeable Nikon lenses, yummy!There is only a 6mm difference in depth size between the NEX 3 and the S90! If you want something like an S90 then just buy an S90.
NEX3 111 x 59 x 38mm
S90 100 x 58 x 31mm
From your description you are asking for a NEX camera.
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You're welcome canon is a perfect match for you
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No it is not, that is why I am still consider it, the other reason is ridiculously high price (over 500$ here in Europe).
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Lets just say I don't want to remove the lens every time I need to put the camera in the pocket.
On the other hand I thought somehow that we are allowed to state our opinions here.
I would prefer smaller Nikon camera than this Sony NEX and that is my opinion. You prefer Sony NEX and I respect that opinion. How am I trolling then?Posted 3 years ago # -
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guys, if You don't like the NEX don't buy it, if You like it than You know what to do. if this camera is too big for You mb, than there's plenty of other options on the market.
anyway, I'm waiting to see what Nikon will show us. maybe it's gonna be even smaller than the sony one with the same specs.Posted 3 years ago # -
Apparently sony NEX 7, a more serious, fully manual camera, is going to be showcased in September.
I wish Sony would start shipping the cameras quicker. Adorama says that they will start getting them by the end of July. Whhaat? I want one to start my vacation off. Kind of sucks.
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I heard July too but for the NEX5. I don't remember where but I heard the NEX3 will be shipping out in June. I think perhaps Sony's website will be shipping out there first before other retailers. Yes there is also a "pro" version NEX7 that will be supposedly out at the end of the year or early next.
Here's some more hands-on stuff.
http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/sony-nex-5-analisis-fotos-videos,1_6335Dpreview has full size sample images and a HD video sample from a production version of the NEX5.
http://www.dpreview.com/news/1005/10051202sonynex5samplesgallery.asp
I'm surprised there are so many full size image samples available already. Sony must be pretty confident, and judging from these photos they should be.
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I was really excited to preorder one of these puppies, but seeing that they will only ship out in that timeframe, I can probably just buy it myself. Last time I check Sony doesn't have problems with producing enough units to satisfy the demand.
I am really excited to see how it works.
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Found a test video on Vimeo of the NEX-5 which might interest some of you. Looks pretty nice considering it's hand-held, although the wind noise is a bit irritating:
(Click to the button to watch in HD)
Niko, reading the forums you've talked a bit about these evil/M4-3 cameras. Specifically, the Panasonic GF1 and the Olympus E-PL1.
Question is, how do you think the Nex-5 will compare to these? It would seem, on paper at least, to have a lot going for it. Now that the Nex 3/5 announcements are out, have you been put off completely from buying an E-PL1 for your wife? :)
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I only hope that someone from Nikon is at this moment begging on their knees that Sony will make them a Nikon version of that Camcorder model
Pete
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Gosh.. I must be really slow but I just realized that Nikon's next DX cameras could have this sensor therefore Nikons next dx cameras could probably have better capability than the NEX cameras.. wouldn't that be just lovely! What do you say? Is the NEX sensor capability better than the D700 ?
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praying for a Nikon NEX with an F-mount - WOOT, would be awesome to have continuous AF with my 35 1.8 lens.
Maybe that's why nikon is updating all their lenses with an AF-S motor . . .keep it fast and silent?
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I doubt that is the reason. Nikon is upgrading all lenses to AF-S so that they can at some point remove the focus motor from the higher end models, forcing people to buy new lenses when they upgrade camera bodies.
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