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Hi,
I went to my local camera shop and they mentioned that the new Nikon 700s will be released in the uk in around 6 weeks!! He wouldn't have said that if he wasn't sure as he could have tried to sold me the D700 before the price drops when the D700s is released - well that's my thinking anyway.
Here's hoping!
Your dealer probably reads this site, haha. Nikon Rumors has been saying late June or early July announcement for a while now. Same thing happened back in 2008 when the D700 was announced in July. All the rebates end in June and hopefully we'll get leaks a month before like we did back in 2008.
Welcome to the forum MrCod.
I am heading to B&H in New York today to talk about the D700 and any replacements that they might be aware of. Any sense whether B&H has inside info on the 700 replacement or not?
Thanks.
Mike
mtiktinsky said:
I am heading to B&H in New York today to talk about the D700 and any replacements that they might be aware of. Any sense whether B&H has inside info on the 700 replacement or not?Thanks.
Mike
I have this feeling if they do know anything, they probably won't tell you, they are just going to try and sell you what they have. If you are going there to buy one, you may like to know Calumet has it listed for $50 less than B&H in stock. Adorama is is only $5.
It could be true, one dealer here in Canada is listing the D700 for less than $2400 Cdn.
hope they relase some mid range zoom with it :)
Just make sure you have $7000-$7500 saved up, $3000 for the body and $2000-2500 for the lens Jonny. ;-)
If the 24-70 2.8 was updated with VR I'd get that and wait for a while on the body replacement. I do have enough money saved for one or the other and could get both if I drained my emergency fund: Honey, this is a -photographic- emergency—they released the lens/camera combination of my dreams! ;-)
edit: you tricked me on the first read with your "fuzzy math," Rob, but I see now that you overestimated by a couple thousand dollars. Now if I went with the D3s instead...
Wow, yeah... I should have said, $5000-5500. lol
I would be more happy to see d700s with a nice price tag, than a new 24-70 vr.
I hope nikon understands that it's way too late for a Nikon D700s with the D3s sensor...
Mid 2010 means they should already start with the 18mpx sensors. I'm all in for low noise at extremely high ISO but I believe 18mpx on full frame would still give good results.
Also, 1080p.
Perhaps the D700 replacement will have a variant of the D3x sensor? Or is this too optimistic?
Like the Sony A850...?
clilja, that could be possible.
on my side, I'd rather have a 18mpx sensor with high iso performances similar to the D3s (maybe 1 stop worse) than a 24mpx machine with little high iso capabilities... I don't need the 24mpx anyway, I'm not a fan of cropping, I like it wide... If I want the FX sensor, it's not to crop it back to DX after I took the shot anyway.
jbl said:
I hope nikon understands that it's way too late for a Nikon D700s with the D3s sensor...Mid 2010 means they should already start with the 18mpx sensors. I'm all in for low noise at extremely high ISO but I believe 18mpx on full frame would still give good results.
Also, 1080p.
I cannot see Nikon putting a higher end or resolution sensor in the D700 than the D3s. That would mess up their marketing strategy for the pro market, and cause them to lose sales in the higher end cameras. I'm guessing D700s, still.
I agree, even if it makes Nikon look like they're not keeping up, it's not a good idea to release something that will eat your own high-end sales. Since when has Nikon made sure they keep up, anyway?
Canon 1Ds (first full frame by canon or nikon): 2003
Nikon D3: 2007
Canon 5D: 2005
Nikon D700: 2008
Right on the money Jonny. I think Nikon tends to try and get the product right, rather than rushing to be first.
What about the S1000PJ. The worlds first camera with a built-in projector.
Sony already has the "same" 24mp sensor in a camera under $2000USD. So why not put it in a D700 replacement? It's probably because that sensor is not great for high ISO shots or compatible with video.
I'm really fascinated to see Nikon's next move - will they break the 12mp/24mp pattern with a new sensor? If so, won't it be a little weird for them to sell a D90 replacement with a higher mp sensor than the D300s? Admittedly - a situation that wouldn't last long.
Do new Sony sensors ever make their debut in Nikons? Or are we looking at a derivation of one of the current Sony sensors? The 14.2 probably? Will that just be a stepping stone like the 10mp sensor was? (No pro versions? Oops. Forgot about the D200...)
The next D700 will probably still have it's own original Nikon sensor. The current D700 doesn't use a Sony sensor. It's the same sensor from the D3. My guess is that they will go with either 16mp or 18mp with slightly better ISO performance and better dynamic range.
Sony sensors debut on Sony cameras first. Well they do now anyway. Before Sony bought Minolta and started their own DSLR line. Before that they were in Nikon bodies first. If the D90 replacement gets it's own original Nikon sensor (doubt it) then it'll be a huge turning point between Nikon and Sony's partnership.
clillja said:
I'm really fascinated to see Nikon's next move - will they break the 12mp/24mp pattern with a new sensor? If so, won't it be a little weird for them to sell a D90 replacement with a higher mp sensor than the D300s?
Not really. It would explain why the D300S is so heavily discounted along with the D90. Nikon needs to sell as many as they can now before a higher spec and lower cost camera comes out in the new "D90".
It is tough to see where Nikon is headed. If Nikon does not use the same sensor as the D3s in the D700 replacement I'm not sure what they would use other than the 24MP sensor, because unless they get a sensor from Kodak there aren't any other (non-Canon) FX size sensors out there.
As for DX, that is a tough call, I wouldn't be surprised to see the D90 replacement get the 14MP Sony sensor, they don't have a lot of other options at this point. Sony may be working on a more pixel rich sensor, but since the Alfa line was released Nikon always gets them after those models are updated. I was honestly surprised when Nikon didn't introduce the 14MP sensor in the D300 update. I can only reason that Nikon felt that noise on the sensor was worse than the 12MP sensor and thus they are avoiding them. In some ways Nikon is in a tough spot, many of the other manufactures of DSLRs have in house sensor development technology to work with.
Any idea as to what sort of video upgrade will new Nikon models have ? I don't like the colors of 7D although it is a fun camera to shot video. I still prefer the video from my d300s only if it has manual control.
I know I am repeating my self but I want to prepare my self for the next model, If it is something interesting from Nikon in video department I want to get it.
I wish Nikon will improve the video mode a bit especially in new FX cameras and of course the price as well.
Regards
I know it's been over many times, but we don't need more MP's - I would say that most of users on this forum, and generally most of dslr users doesn't have good enough lenses to deliver the quality. sure canon has more mpx's, but who cares? if the outcome from canon 18mpx bodies is similar to this what You get from 12mpx on d300?
I think, that Nikon will launch the d700s, and that it's gonna have exactly the same sensor as d3s.
I hope you're right, Adam, because that's exactly what I want.
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