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What does your workflow look like for ... ?

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  • Started 3 years ago by jonnyapple
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  1. jonnyapple

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    Pete has guilt-tripped me into starting a thread. So what does your workflow look like for different situations? I thought it would be fun to find out how some of you keep pictures straight, decide on keepers, etc.

    Here's my workflow for event photography. It is mostly Lightroom-based.

    -Synchronize the time on both cameras to make file naming work later. (If you forget to do this, Lightroom will let you change the capture time of all the pictures from one of the cameras. To do it you open the metadata browser, filter by the camera serial number and edit the capture time.)

    -Shoot the event. During downtime I chimp and delete obvious non-keepers while still in-camera.

    -Convert to DNG on import to Lightroom. They are imported into a jobs folder and the naming scheme is YYYYMMDD HHMMSS, which means that they are sorted chronologically no matter the camera that took them.

    -Mark pictures to remove and rate favorites. 'x' flags pictures for deletion in LR and you can always go back and make sure you meant to delete the ones you flag. I star favorites 3, 4, or 5 stars (by pressing the '3' '4' or '5' key). Normal ratios for me are about 1% 5-star, 5% 4-star, 10% 3-star, and 60% flagged for deletion (missed focus, weird expressions, duplicate of a keeper, and camera shake are the common reasons).

    -CA corrections. I filter by metadata and know what the chromatic aberration sliders should be for my lenses at different focal lengths. I wish LR would let you filter further—by a range of focal length used for each lens instead of just lens used.

    -Edit 5-star photos. Sync settings from 5-star photos to other photos captured under same circumstances.

    -Edit 4-star photos. Sync settings to similar photos.

    -Edit 3-star photos. Sync settings.

    -Review photos flagged for deletion, unflag some, and delete the rest. This delay gives me a chance to sleep on my delete decisions.

    -Edit the rest of the photos.

    -Touch up select favorites in Photoshop.

    -Select 5-star photos and rename to JOBNAME NNN or JOBNAME NNNN.

    -Select 4-star photos and do the same, starting after the last 5-star number. For example, if there are 8 5-star images, the 4-stars pick up at JOBNAME 009.dng

    -Ditto for 3-star

    -Ditto for the rest. Renaming this way makes the deletion transparent to the client and makes it easy to find my favorites.

    -Upload a web album of photos rated 3-stars and above for online proofing. (LR saves the day here! It's easier than Picasa, IMO, and you have a lot more control.)

    -If the client has edit requests, edit based on those (typically, people just say they look great and I'm on to the next step).

    -Export all photos to jpg in a folder called (creatively) jpg within the original folder.

    -Burn all jpg and DNG to DVDs and mail to the client. Burn a copy for myself for backup.

    -Format memory cards.

    -Find creative ways to spend money.

    -Repeat ad nauseum.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  2. bmxdad

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    Way to go Jonny, my work flow is on the 1 star level, I might try some of above ideas, thanks for sharing

    Pete

    BTW when are you going to get on the Flickr thingy

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  3. gelu88

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    Nice, Mine is very similar, though i find i end up with quite a few 4 and 5 stars, im too uncritical, i think.

    i do 3-4-5 star rating and edit pics ad hoc as i see flaws. i'm not as systemic. Though my "pro" stuff is for the school paper, which i know they will edit on their own to match their printer profiles. So i just do croping and some exposure stuff.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  4. heartyfisher

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    Thanks for the post.. I am looking for a good work flow..Yours gives me some ideas.
    At the moment Mine is very adhoc. I just copy them all into a directory named by date and event. Then quickly browse through them with a viewer. Copy the ones I like to another directory. And PP. adding a p Prefix for the ones I have PP. ( back up all photos to an external big usb drive, auto sync )

    recently I have been using DigiKam as my viewer and that makes a few things easier including putting stars so I now don't copy to another dir. I use 1, 2 and 3 stars 3 being best..hoping one day to find a 5 stars picture ! :-) )

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  5. Treckie

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    Lightroom makes the workflow very intuitive and hence my flow is similar to Jonny. I import via Lightroom, backup to another drive via lightroom and sort keepers from trash. I do not use the rating systems aside from marking a "six star" rating to the once in a lifetime shot. six star has a colored frame around the thumbnail. My thought is I will either sell the image or not. if its not at least a 4, its trashed, so no reason to assign codes. (imho). When finished sorting I delete the non keepers and empty the recycle bin to keep Lightroom working at peak performance. Next I process photos and syncronize the final output to my backup drives. From this point images are prepared for client use either as prints or electronic format. I should add that my processing workflow follows Lightroom's sliders top to bottom.(color correct, adjust exposure, fine tune and local corrections). If needed, I can jump from within Lightroom to CS4 make whatever corrections and jump back into lightroom and move on to the next image.

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  6. kyoshinikon

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    View NX to Pshop Cs3

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  7. kellenfreeman

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    dayum johnny, that's time consuming. but hey, if you're getting paid then it makes it worthwhile.

    as for someone who doesn't get paid:

    shoot event, gathering, whatev
    dump on computer into library -> year -> YYYY-MM-DD Event name folder with copyright info
    reject (x) bad shots, flag good shots (or if a hierarchy of good to real good is needed, ill sometimes use 3, 4 and 5 stars)
    clear rejected photos
    process good shots
    -CA is a big annoyance to me and always gets fixed on the photos i really like
    add keywords (if i'm smart)
    export to show off :P

    Posted 3 years ago #
  8. NSXType-R

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    Yeah, I need serious help with work flow.

    I just started editing my first batch of RAW photos the other day, culminating in a grand total of just one total edited file.

    I first converted the RAW to JPG, looked through them to see what I liked and didn't like, and then edited it with Camera RAW.

    I am using Photoshop CS2.

    On the plus side, I liked the results. The minus side- I took nighttime shots with a D40 and it came out incredibly noisy.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  9. adamz

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    NSX - shoot RAW+JPG, You will skip one time consuming part of converting to jpg's as for the rest, use noise ninja or any other photo to remove noise (as it's very visible on Your photo), You can also play a little bit with colors (as most of the times noise is reddish, so just try to minimize the red color saturation), as for this particular photo, get rid of the white dot (center - right, on the sky), apart from that nice composition (that's NYC?, ain't it?)

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  10. jonnyapple

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    A little more advice... ;-)

    I'd shoot ISO 200 unless that's a problem (for example, if you're shooting handheld). I think the sky could be mostly cropped out, as well. And if you dial in exposure compensation, try positive before negative—it doesn't matter if you get clipping on some of the lights.

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  11. bmxdad

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    NSXType-R said:
    Yeah, I need serious help with work flow.

    I just started editing my first batch of RAW photos the other day, culminating in a grand total of just one total edited file.

    I first converted the RAW to JPG, looked through them to see what I liked and didn't like, and then edited it with Camera RAW.

    I am using Photoshop CS2.

    On the plus side, I liked the results. The minus side- I took nighttime shots with a D40 and it came out incredibly noisy.

    Great picture, here is after a bit of dfine work
    Not taken by me, edit with define to remove noise

    Pete

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  12. NSXType-R

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    Yup, this is NYC, from up on top of the Empire State Building. I shot this photo from the 86th floor. I also went up to the 102nd floor. Although the view is wonderful up there, keep in mind that you will be shooting through glass- it's fully enclosed, unlike the 86th floor. But the 86th floor, there's also a lot more people, and it was incredibly windy, another reason for the high ISO.

    RAW + jpg would be a good idea, but it's a slow camera as it is.

    Yes, I used a high ISO because I had to shoot hand held- also because I screwed up- I left auto ISO on, and it picked 3200. That was a bad mistake. I tried to prop the camera against the railings as it is.

    Cropping out the sky sounds like a great idea, but wouldn't that end up in a weirdly shaped photo that would end up more like a panoramic photo?

    One more thing- any recommendations on lenses? A long zoom would be nice. The one bad thing is that they don't allow tripods. I took this with a 35mm 1.8 at F/4.5.

    Still need to learn a lot about Photoshop, thanks a lot for your comments!

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  13. bmxdad

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    If you do this again, your lens is very sharp at f2 this and at that distance I think your DOF would still be OK. This would allow a lower ISO setting.

    Just bought the lens, like the lens actually

    Pete

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  14. adamz

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    have to agree with our Golde Child, that it would look nice after cropping - use the 16:9 format, w/o changing the base - it would look very good

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  15. NSXType-R

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    Thanks a lot for the tips and the critique guys.

    How exactly do I get DFine? Is it a plugin for Photoshop?

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  16. jonnyapple

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    Just google nik dfine to find it. It's $100, though, and yes it's a PS/LR/aperture plugin. Try the noise reduction sliders in lightroom beta 3 v2. It's free and it's pretty impressive.

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  17. jonnyapple

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    I processed it in LR3beta2 (I have to say that I'm on my laptop outside, so I wasn't sure I could see it very well. It looks like Pete's to me):

    I'll bet LR3 will be out next month (June) and it's only $100 for students.

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  18. NSXType-R

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    Hmm... $100 is quite a lot, let me play around with Photoshop a bit longer and let's take a look in a bit.

    Thanks a lot!

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  19. ChrisLange

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    My workflow is as follows:

    If black and white, process exposed film myself in suitable chemistry (Acufine or DD-X for pushing, D-76 for standard, Perceptol for pulling and ultra fine grain) , if color, take it to CRC for either E6 or C41 processing.

    get back chromes/negs

    evaluate them on a good light table, outline promising frames in red china marker on the printfile sleeve or on the contact sheet if I've bothered to make one.

    make work-prints on 5x7 RC paper/ make decent scans of selected frames, perform any color correction or contrast balancing in PS.

    digital:
    If destined for digital printing, save out full size tiff file at roughly 6000x4000px for 35mm, or larger for medium format, if intended for web use, resize long edge to 1920, high-pass sharpening, upload.

    traditional:
    evaluate work print, make variations on other 5x7s, pick the best work print for upscaling into an 8x10 or 11x14 finished print

    if on RC, adjust f-stop timing to suit the new enlargement size, perform any dodging and burning necessary which has been predetermined by work prints, and dev,stop,fix,wash,dry. Then mount or file in archive.

    if on fibre, adjust the f-stop timing, dodge, burn, slight edge burn, dev, stop, fix, wash, fix, final wash, toner, final rinse/dry. flatten and mount, done.

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  20. jonnyapple

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    I have to admit that reading your workflow makes me think I'm missing some kind of connection to my photos, Chris. It makes me nostalgic for working with slides on a light table with my dad as a kid. If I am ever filthy rich, maybe I'll buy a darkroom, etc. (not for chromes, probably... ;-)

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  21. ChrisLange

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    It is a process I prefer more to simply downloading CF cards, jonny, and while I don't particularly enjoy doing the darkroom work nearly as much as I do shooting my film, it still gives me a little bit of a connection with my photographs :)

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  22. scoobysmak

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    Well I haven't started a "work flow" per say but I am wondering what people would think about the following:

    1. Use NX2 to open the files and adjust any camera settings that I might have messed up then transport to LR 3
    2. Use LR to finish processing and have DXO as a plug in to correct lens and chromatic problems (according to DXO website it can be used like a plug in but would love to hear from someone that uses this setup).

    My question is if DXO is used as a plug-in to LR will it have all the features or will I miss something. Am I better off using NX2, send to DXO, then finish with LR. My main question would be if DXO can open the file that NX2 has put out. Maybe I am thinking to hard but any advice it appreciated.

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  23. NikoDoby

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    Like, Zoinks Scoob! You don't need to run every photo through DXO. Lightroom alone will do just fine. Download the free Lightroom 3 Beta and try it for yourself.

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  24. jonnyapple

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    NikoDoby said:
    Like, Zoinks Scoob!

    [jonny rolls eyes]
    Yes, lightroom should be plenty, especially the production version that corrects geometric distortion (the beta already corrects CA).

    DxO: and I would have gotten away with it, Niko, if it weren't for you meddlin' kids. (couldn't help myself)

    Welcome to the forum, scooby.

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  25. shineofleo

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    Very informative. Thanks!

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