Maybe not Merc and Audi.. (dont know them well ) but Fords use mazda engines and frames and a few other korean manufacturers. and they all have pretty much interchangeable parts.
This is why DSLR have to become modular
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Expeed is not a CPU, it is a software that runs on a couple of CPUs, Nikon does not have a resources to build a dedicated CPU.
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heartyfisher said:
Maybe not Merc and Audi.. (dont know them well ) but Fords use mazda engines and frames and a few other korean manufacturers. and they all have pretty much interchangeable parts.That's because Ford owns Mazda. Well they own less of it now but that's why you see Ford parts on Mazdas and Mazda parts on Fords. Plus many parts are built by third companies that often times manufacture cheap parts and sell them to multiple car manufacturers.
If Nikon were to make a modular camera they wouldn't allow others to build parts for it. Nikon would be the sole manufacturer. So it's not a good analogy at all. Car companies are owned by other car companies. Very few actually build their own parts that aren't shared.
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And computers...
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kyoshinikon said:
The cost essentially being a designers salary who I'm are sure are prone to procrastinate.LOL I think "designers", like absent minded professors, tend to be a bit less than "commercial" in their use of time. Thats not to say that they are procrastinating! I am sure they are working as efficiently as possible, its just that something in the brain cannot be seen by anyone else :-)
Look, I think we can all agree that generally modular systems are much more efficient and agile to changing environments. Most modular systems occur in mature product lines. eg The Old film SLR, Cars, PC, Shelving. The thing is, the DSLR has not been a Mature Product and hence the lack of true modularization. But it is getting mature fast and we will likely see modularization within 10 years.
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heartyfisher said:
Shelving.I love it, hearty!
I'm not going to disagree with you about modularity in general, but in my opinion DSLRs are already modular in the most important ways (standard memory cards, standard lens mount, standard hotshoe). As much as I would love to have a modular camera, I don't think most of the market would like one. Not every photographer likes to know as much about their cameras as the people on this forum do. Most just want a reliable machine that will do what they want, the same way most people just want to buy a complete computer system and forget about specs and components—some of my favorite people can't even be bothered to find out which cables plug in where in their computer, let alone to find out anything about what's happening "under the hood." I can't see a modular Nikon being a commercial success.
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jonnyapple said:
I love it, hearty!I'm not going to disagree with you about modularity in general, but in my opinion DSLRs are already modular in the most important ways (standard memory cards, standard lens mount, standard hotshoe)..
LOL! Standard Hotshoe ! I wanted to lend my friend my Flash, SB-800, and he could not use it.. "ITS A SONY!"
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Only 3rd party manufactures seem to take advantage of the "standard" hotshoe...
My cheesy Sunpak auto 2000 DZ works great on Nikon, Sony, Minolta, Pentax, Canon, Olympus, Sigma, and Leica cameras with no modification... Plus It holds strobe "transceivers" up pretty well too like the pocketwizard.
I still see what you mean about incompatibility especially because the SB-800 (or any SB-3 digit for that matter) does a much better job at strobing than any 3rd party could do...
If only everyone shot Nikon, Hearty... If only :^)
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Ok, have to disagree that computers have become more modular over time. As they have matured they have become less modular and more designed to purpose.
If you doubt that, when was the last time you re-timed and reset the 0 track on a hard drive? When was the last time you swapped out a bad capacitor on the mother board? I used to do all of that for a bank I worked for a few decades ago. Now you just buy a laptop or an iPad and it is what it is. When it becomes obsolete you move on.
While tinkering with modules on a camera might seem fun to the .01% of the users, it would never be a profitable segment unless you could sell all those same parts to camera builders that just built finished units.
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Nikon F was more modular than later models, you could choose from couple of prisms, motor drives, backs and film cassettes so the maturity has nothing to do with modularity, on a contrary (F5 for example has only LED back as an add on). This is an example of Nikon F with replacement prism and motor:
And here is a totally different set:
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I think those are more like add-ons or accessories rather than modular units. The prism and motor drives were useful but you could buy the camera as a single "unit" and not worry about ever having to buy separate pieces to make it work. My D70 can take more photos then that film cassette ever could. Other than the CF card and the camera, I didn't have to buy anything else. Why would I want to?
Also those "add-ons" were pretty expensive and only a very small group of photographers actually bought and used them. Now we have all the features those items provided straight out of the single modern camera body. I can imagine modern versions of those big bulky accessories would not be profitable because to the building cost and low unit numbers.
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"Add-ons" or "modules" Nikon dropped them from production for a good reason, no market and no profit.
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In case you missed it on the main page, this is what a modular "D4X" would look like...a monstrosity - YUCK!
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I said it before and I'll say it again... that not fully unergonomic "D4x" looks like a lazer printer and a maymia ZD had a baby...
lets name it TONY!!! :^D
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hhahahah. Well said Kyoshi !
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