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NikoDoby said:
I would rest easy with that prediction too foofie. The only problem is that the rumored new lenses are FX and geared towards pros. Also the D90 is still pretty much available everywhere but the D700 stocks are disappearing.So that's why we can't be sure about which camera these specs belong to.
Which new lenses are rumored now other than the 85mm 1.4, 200-400 F/4, and 80-400?
The second one is a new category of video centric camera with MB11 for that purpose.
NikoDoby said:
I would rest easy with that prediction too foofie. The only problem is that the rumored new lenses are FX and geared towards pros. Also the D90 is still pretty much available everywhere but the D700 stocks are disappearing.So that's why we can't be sure about which camera these specs belong to.
Given that the D90 sells in MUCH higher volumes than the D700, especially its presence at Bestbuy, walmart, etc the D90 successor could come out next week and supplies would not be indicative.
At the moment i am very confused as to what this camera is... If the battery grip was not there i would say that this is clearly a D90 replacement. But could the D90 perhaps be successful enough that Nikon thinks a official battery grip for its replacement could sell?
Its taken Nikon so long that by the time it releases these bodies to compete with Canon's 7D or mark II the technology will already be outdated. The new D700 whatever is already outdated and I think Nikon missed the boat here. However, their current lineup is great and I guess Nikon felt comfortable enough with its product line.
Gimme my affordable FX camera!
Yeah, gimme jbl's affordable FX camera! (I'll give it a good home, jbl)
Mmmm! Lot's to speculate on!
My guess is a D90 replacement, possibly with a 'new' name and sold alongside the D90. Why?
All those features represent a decent improvement to the D90's specs without being a huge (i.e. costly) leap forward.
Competes better with Canon's EOS 550D, etc.
Distances it from the D5000.
The calendar suggests a D90 replacement is due soon.
Plus, and this is VERY important; I bought my D90 just before Christmas and have been worried ever since that a replacement will be announced that will make me wish I had waited. But with these improvements, good though they are, I shan't be too disappointed.
Looking at Thom Hogan's Nikon product introductions, It looks likely to be a D90 replacement. The D90 AF was under specified from day one. The video (much as I hate to deal with it it) has been thoroughly eclipsed. It would normally be time for a D90s(x) but it seems new sensors are ready, so adios D90... The D5000 pretty much spelled the end.
I hated the idea of video (crappy video, anyway) but several clients have asked so I'm ready to jump. I'm running my shop on two D300 bodies and a D3000 for my personal rig.
Say it's a D7000 (D90 replacement). The 1080i spec indicates 2nd generation video - lets hope they:
*extended the record time from 5 minutes - even a small improvement would be helpful
*new video codec - some flavor of H.264 please
*mic/line audio input
*swivel screen
*better contrast-detect AF for live view and video (I tried out a D90 the other day and man, it just doesn't work hardly at all!)
The new AF sensor will be great - not quite the 51-point D300s - but at least better than my little D3000!
Let's hope they simplify the menus - oh, and don't kill me, but they can leave out the AF motor AFAIC. Never met an AF-s lens I didn't like. Don't be surprised if it happens, Nikon faithful. Prepare yourself emotionally....
I'll buy one because the better video will allow me to occasionally leave my heavy duty Panasonic video rig at home.
Bring it on, Nikon brothers!
CML
It seams to me that low end model will come first and it will be D5000 replacement, something with better LCD and video and that is about it.
D90 sells well as it is and it probably would not be replaced soon, not before the end of this year and most likely around the same time as D300s replacement.
As for the above specs they are just rumors, no better or more acurrate then all the other rumors.
Gotta fight you on that one.
Nikon has already gone on record saying that a d90 replacement (or anouncement, I can't remember which) would be coming very soon. The d90 is also nearing due for replacement, and that's just timewise, not factoring in at all how dated it's become in such a short time as compared to the competition.
The d5000/3000's on the otherhand have been out for a very short time, and not only that, but the d5000 has almost identical specs to the d90... upgrading it would be hard if not impossible to do without outspeccing the d90.
so sir, I must claim your guesses as false.
clillja said:
Looking at Thom Hogan's Nikon product introductions, It looks likely to be a D90 replacement. The D90 AF was under specified from day one. The video (much as I hate to deal with it it) has been thoroughly eclipsed. It would normally be time for a D90s(x) but it seems new sensors are ready, so adios D90... The D5000 pretty much spelled the end.I hated the idea of video (crappy video, anyway) but several clients have asked so I'm ready to jump. I'm running my shop on two D300 bodies and a D3000 for my personal rig.
Say it's a D7000 (D90 replacement). The 1080i spec indicates 2nd generation video - lets hope they:
*extended the record time from 5 minutes - even a small improvement would be helpful
*new video codec - some flavor of H.264 please
*mic/line audio input
*swivel screen
*better contrast-detect AF for live view and video (I tried out a D90 the other day and man, it just doesn't work hardly at all!)The new AF sensor will be great - not quite the 51-point D300s - but at least better than my little D3000!
Let's hope they simplify the menus - oh, and don't kill me, but they can leave out the AF motor AFAIC. Never met an AF-s lens I didn't like. Don't be surprised if it happens, Nikon faithful. Prepare yourself emotionally....
I'll buy one because the better video will allow me to occasionally leave my heavy duty Panasonic video rig at home.
Bring it on, Nikon brothers!
CML
Hey, welcome to Nikon Rumors!
It seems like a D90 replacement too, the D90 is the oldest camera body in Nikon's lineup, seems like it's overdue for a replacement.
Yeah if admin gives it 75% then I'd say thats better than any other rumor that came before. Don't worry he'll be saying more soon I'm sure.
The D700 was announced before the D90 originally. They were only announced about two months apart. So I don't see why the D90 replacement has to be announced first now? Perhaps Nikon could even make a joint announcement for both at the same time ala D300/D3 press release.
Another factor in announcing a new "D800" 1st versus a "D7000" is the FIFA world cup in June. That would make a perfect place to show off a new DSLR.
clillja 39 AF points versus 51 isn't necessarily a bad thing.
We shell see ;)
I also doubt Nikon will release better AF with more cross points on the lower priced body, we will have to wait D4 for that. If there will be 39 AF points it could be lower cost with 9 instead 11 AF cross sensors for example.
It doesn't make sense that it might be a D3000 or D5000 replacement. Those cameras are too new. With the ISO 6400 spec, I think it must be a D90 replacement. The D700 replacement would be inheriting the ISO 12,800 performance from the D3s, not continuing on with the same performance it already has. What incentive would there be to upgrade from the D700? "Oh, you get the same ISO performance but with some more pixels! (big deal)... Okay, well you also get FEWER AF points! (uh... that's supposed to make me want to buy it?)" Come on, get real. The only problem is that the new specs would make it better spec'd than the D300s, but that's too new to be replaced as well. Maybe the D90 will be replaced and a new model line introduced as well, like the D300x perhaps? It's hard to say, but I can't see it being a new full frame... maybe it's a DX-FX in-betweener... like, a 1.25X crop or something...
Hmmm...
In any case, I don't buy it as a D700 replacement.
wasn't there talk of a 1.25 or 1.2 crop nikon some time ago? I would be keen on that. as I could use most of my DX lenses on it :-)
+1, mb. Besides, there's more pressure on the low-end models to keep up in the numbers game, so it makes sense to release more frequently even if the changes are more incremental. If the D5000 replacement out-MPs the higher-end bodies the pros will yawn and the consumers will take out their wallets.
The new models are apparently going to be a D3000 "replacement" (D4000?), the D90 replacement (D7000?), D700 replacement (D800/D750?), and a D3XS.
The D3000 is apparently on a one year replacement cycle. I still think a "D4000" might just be an additional model and not really a replacement for the D3000. The D90/D700 are on schedule to be replaced (2year) and the D3XS adds HD video.
So now, which comes first?
I will be consistent, D5100!
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If you look at how cannon slaughtering Nikon with pixels for dollars and if you look at how many nikon owners out there with lenses for full frame cameras logicaly It has to be a D700x with the same ccd now found in the D3x. The F3x is too expensive to have two of and lots of pros need to have two bodies. So what they should do if they want to stop losing ground to Canon is make a D700x with a 24 megapixel sensor. And price it about the same as a D3s. The people who want the wanky video gimick can get a D3s and pros who want tow study workhorse bodies will buy D700xs. Unfortunately what I fear is the gimick mongers win out and the new camera is a D700s with a wanky video facility. If that happens I am going down the Sony/Ziess Rd at least for my underwater work. Underwater housing for a D700 would fit a D700x both aquatica and Subal (and Ikelite if you like plastic) have them and they are much cheaper than D3/D3x housings. Sony Alpha 9000 gives you a 24 megapixel full frame camera with VR built in to the body $2600 Us and you can get adaptors for the old ziess contax lenses as well as the superb ziess lenses made for the sony itself. And underwater you don't need a lot of lenses just a 50mm macro that does 1:1 and a good 17 to 35 wide angle zoom or even just a fisheye. Try one out then take the memory card home and be amazed.
I must say I was tempted and envious of the sony offerings.. till I had a play with one.
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