Prepare to drool... its a shuttle flow Nikon F3HP modified for NASA « Nikon Rumors Forum

The new Nikon Rumors Forum is now live at http://forum.nikonrumors.com/discussions. This forum is now in "read only" mode until I figure a proper way to import all data over to the new platform. Please register over at the new forum.


Nikon Rumors Forum

where there’s smoke there’s forum fire

Register or log in - lost password?

Nikon Rumors Forum » Nikon Film Cameras

Prepare to drool... its a shuttle flow Nikon F3HP modified for NASA

(16 posts) (5 voices)
  • Started 3 years ago by spudpotatohead
  • Latest reply from NikoDoby
  • Related Topics:
    1. NASA Photographs and Nikon
    2. Nikon D4 workflow
    3. NASA captures the earth at night with Nikon D3S
    4. "Nikon prepares for PowerShot G11 battle" in AmateurPhotographer
    5. Best Nikon RAW converter & workflow

Tags:

  • nikon nasa f3 small camera modified space shuttle endea
  1. spudpotatohead

    member
    Joined: Feb '10
    Posts: 13

    offline

    Here it is ... an ultra rare Nikon F3HP modified for NASA and flown on two shuttle missions (sts-49 AND sts-63) including the maiden voyage of Endeavour.

    [IMG]"http://host.spudstravels.com/F3-Endeavour-Front.jpg"[/IMG]

    Ever since seeing an ad back in the 80s for Nikon promoting their F3 and the space program, I have wanted a real space flown camera. Even though this particular one has flown twice, it is in remarkably good condition and the shutter is strong.

    I've got my feelers out compiling more information about this model and am in contact with a few folks at NASA and have even reached out to Nikon's Japanese division to learn more since the camera was built in the Ohi plant in Tokyo.

    I must admit it feels fairly odd to be holding it in my hands knowing its place in history. Not only is the body modified, but the lens, a 35mm F1.4 AI-S, is custom as well. It weighs about twice that of a standard consumer model. Numbers are large for easy viewing. Distance scale is in feet only. Screws cover holes on the focusing ring to accommodate the instalation of a multi armed focus bracket to enable easier focussing wth (big) gloves on. Too cool! I've had it in my hands for just over 24 hours and I can't take my eyes off it.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  2. Skid

    preferred member
    Joined: Dec '09
    Posts: 242

    offline

    Spud- No image.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  3. wafwot

    junior member
    Joined: Mar '10
    Posts: 6

    offline

    Hmmm

    Posted 3 years ago #
  4. NikoDoby

    The Terminator
    Joined: May '09
    Posts: 6,598

    offline

    Spud DO NOT put a link to your ebay site! If you do I will delete this post! You only post when you find a "rare" camera and then proceed to sell it. DON'T!

    As far as I know "real" NASA F3s that flew into space are still with Nikon HQ or still with NASA. The few that are out on "ebay" are actually surplus cameras that were used for testing or training flights and not on actual space flights! So despite what a piece of paper taped to the grip says I'd be very suspicious of spending big $$$ for a "real" one.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  5. spudpotatohead

    member
    Joined: Feb '10
    Posts: 13

    offline

    You know what NikoDoby? Why don't you just delete this posting then?

    You seem to have it stuck in your head that every post I do I'm going to sell (even though its only been one post). Well you'd have to be insane to sell one of these babies.

    I tried to share this with the gang as they are seen so rarely. I have the unit's history from NASA's functional equipment inventory tracking system. It shows when it was sent and received at the various NASA locations, when it was inspected and prepped for the two missions it flew on. When it was reinspected after returning, etc all the way up to the time when it was decommissioned.

    True, the last two NASA Nikons that were on eBay (and sold by someone else) - were undocumented non-flight models. Mine on the other hand has the documentation for both the body and the lens. The body flew two missions. The lens just flew on the Endeavour flight.

    Still I'm sure that some refuse to be convinced, so believe what you will.

    I would post multiple shots of all angles, but there doesn't appear to be any point. I have also done a comparison against a standard F3 consumer grade model, but likely no one would find that interesting either.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  6. bmxdad

    preferred member
    Joined: May '09
    Posts: 1,864

    offline

    Hi Spud please don't stop posting interesting Nikon Gear, even if it is for sale so what, just don't post link to the Ebay, Craig list whatever. That is the Forum Rules right

    BTW your website is absolutely fantastic, were in Canada did you grow up. That Winter Monument Valley picture is stunning, have been their in the early summer and just love that area

    Pete

    Posted 3 years ago #
  7. NikoDoby

    The Terminator
    Joined: May '09
    Posts: 6,598

    offline

    Timm/Spud I guess I would believe you if it weren't that you have copy pasted this in other forums word for word. To me that is suspicious. Also the fact that other ebay listings for similar "real" NASA cameras have been above $30,000USD range makes me think you will eventually put this on your ebay site. When you copy paste on more than one forum it makes it seem like you are "getting the word out" for a sale. So again I am suspicious.

    Many of these F3 cameras were "dummy" models NASA would use for static display only. The consumer F3 was built at the same Ohi Japan factory so not sure why you think this one is special because it was built there? If you have the proper documentation then why are you "in contact with a few folks at NASA" regarding finding out more information?

    Also STS-49 and STS-63 were shuttle missions that occurred in 1992 and 1995. The F3 was used in shuttle flights during the early to mid 1980s. The NASA F4 was used on shuttle flights after 1989. So again I am suspicious.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  8. bmxdad

    preferred member
    Joined: May '09
    Posts: 1,864

    offline

    But Niko he has so far not done anything but post info, right

    Pete

    Posted 3 years ago #
  9. NikoDoby

    The Terminator
    Joined: May '09
    Posts: 6,598

    offline

    Yes and that's why this thread is still here, but I'll be watching his posts.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  10. bmxdad

    preferred member
    Joined: May '09
    Posts: 1,864

    offline

    Me too, even though a camera like this is totally out of my price range, real or not

    Pete

    And I was going to show you the D5000 that Ashton Kutcher used when shooting that runway thing, what do you think it would sell for

    Posted 3 years ago #
  11. spudpotatohead

    member
    Joined: Feb '10
    Posts: 13

    offline

    I feel like I'm in grade school having to explain myself.

    Why have I posted this in numerous forums?
    Well to see a NASA modified Nikon F3HP is not an everyday occurrence. So I thought I'd share it with others that might be interested. believe it or not, not all Nikon fans congregate at 'Nikon Rumours', hence the reason why I thought I'd share with various Nikon sites where I thought like minded folks might hang out. The internet is a great place to share; at least I think it is.

    Why is it practically word for word?
    Because, like NASA, my credo is to accomplish as much as possible while at the same time exhibiting as little effort as possible. Hence I used cut & paste to share the info. Now that I've had do write out this diatribe response, I have blown that credo all together.

    If I have documentation, why am I in contact with folks at NASA?
    Well the documentation shows its historical transient record thru the NASA facility. What I don't have is more information such as what other mods was Nikon instructed to perform on these special models. Piecing together that stuff from the web is tough and sporadic at best. I can see a bunch of visual differences, but I can't comment on the internal mods, or less obvious mods. I also contacted Nikon in Japan and the US to see if I can find anything out from them thru the contract or drawing numbers. Japan would likely be the best bet instead of Nikon USA, but after being to Tokyo twice, English is not as commonly spoken as one may think. Sometimes when you don't know it all, you have to rely on other folks expertise.

    Why does NASA use old cameras?
    Well the F3 was developed in the early 80s and marketed til the mid to late 90s. The F4 was developed in 1989, but I don't think the first one went into space until the early 90s. According to my record, the first entry is Jun 12th 1986, so I assume the model was delivered around that time. It went thru various testing thru 1987 and apparently sat on a shelf in 1988. An internal self timer was added in Apr of 1989. The camera went thru a PIA which looks like some sort of preflight prep (but someone from NASA might be able to answer what PIA stands for) in March of 1990. The camera went in for servicing in Apr of that year. It was then sent to one of the other NASA buildings for an equipment upgrade (a -303 configuration; denoted by the addition of 303 to the P/N engraving. Again, someone from NASA might be able to answer what the -303 consisted of. The camera was then prepped for flight aboard STS-49 in March of 92, shutter tested and serviced and then shipped to Kennedy space Center in April of that year. The camera was then received back post flight, then prepped again for flight STS-63 in Dec of 94, etc etc until it was decommissioned in 2000 and shipped back to Johnson space Center in 2006. Needless to say, NASA tests and restests and retests before anything goes up in space. So, just because they get a camera from Nikon in 1989, doesn't mean it will actually fly until years later - especially back then when they were still learning. Remember AF and Matrix metering was fairly new back then. Plus, NASA took numerous cameras on the shuttles - F3s, Hasselblad 70mms, Imax and others. If it were me and I wanted to make sure I'd have a working unit in the field, I always take my old trusted & proven unit as a backup to my new fangled jobby. No reason why NASA wouldn't think the same way.

    Did I earn dessert since I finished all my vegetables?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  12. spudpotatohead

    member
    Joined: Feb '10
    Posts: 13

    offline

    bmxdad -

    Thanks for the kudos

    I grew up in Calgary, Alberta.
    Well, until this thread started I thought I was grown up.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  13. bmxdad

    preferred member
    Joined: May '09
    Posts: 1,864

    offline

    spudpotatohead said:
    bmxdad -

    Thanks for the kudos

    I grew up in Calgary, Alberta.
    Well, until this thread started I thought I was grown up.

    Regulator75 is from Calgary, he is posting the great city shots, I'm from Red Deer

    Ahh we all need to grow up a bit at times, like any other forum we like to disagree

    Take care

    Pete

    Posted 3 years ago #
  14. NikoDoby

    The Terminator
    Joined: May '09
    Posts: 6,598

    offline

    Maybe if your first thead hadn't started as a "check this rare camera out" post too but then turned into a quick ebay sale I'd be a little more forgiving.

    Timm you say this body has flown on STS-49 which was Endeavour's 1st flight. Yet you also said

    spudpotatohead said:
    The lens just flew on the Endeavour flight.

    That seems reasonable to me that the lens could have been used on numerous shuttle flights up until 2006 as you say. Do you have separate documentation for both the lens and camera? Can you post pictures of your documentation. I'm sure many Nikon space aficionado would be very interested in seeing that.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  15. spudpotatohead

    member
    Joined: Feb '10
    Posts: 13

    offline

    NikoDoby said:
    Maybe if your first thead hadn't started as a "check this rare camera out" post too but then turned into a quick ebay sale I'd be a little more forgiving.

    Timm you say this body has flown on STS-49 which was Endeavour's 1st flight. Yet you also said

    That seems reasonable to me that the lens could have been used on numerous shuttle flights up until 2006 as you say. Do you have separate documentation for both the lens and camera? Can you post pictures of your documentation. I'm sure many Nikon space aficionado would be very interested in seeing that.

    The shuttles go up with numerous bodies and a complement of various focal length lenses. The documentation is separate for the body and the lens. The body shows two flights and this lens only one flight.

    The first entry on the lens log was Mar 87. There are various logs to 1996 where it apparently sat for 10 years before being transferred to Johnson SC.

    I can post a long shot of these logs and documentation, but nothing up close as I don't want non-flight equipment sellers 'manufacturing' their own documentation. Granted, I can't figure out these block quote things to get shots to show up.

    You really should try drinking decaffienated coffee Niko. Not everyone on this planet has alterior motives.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  16. NikoDoby

    The Terminator
    Joined: May '09
    Posts: 6,598

    offline

    if your worried about document "fakers" then just email me.

    You really should try being friendlier if you are to convince me there are no ulterior motives for your copy paste internet postings and previous ebay links soon after a "rare" find.

    Posted 3 years ago #

RSS feed for this topic

Reply

You must log in to post.

NikonRumors Forum (http://nikonrumors.com/forum) is proudly powered by bbPress
Disclaimer: This site has no affiliation with Nikon USA or any other subsidiary of Nikon. Please visit the official Nikon website at nikon.com
Copyright © 2008-2011 NikonRumors.com