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Hello Everybody,
I'm an amateur casual photographer and photography is my hobby.
I'm in the market to buy a DSLR and I'm looking to buy D90.
With the rumors around D90 for the update, should I buy it now or wait? I currently have a super zoom camera with which I can manage for time being. Any details on the possible update time period?
Welcome to the forum swame_sp.
There were rumors of an April announcement but it looks like that's just going to be another pro lens. Next possibility would be June. Though at this point the D90 replacement could come anytime from June-October 2010. The D90 was originally announced in August of 2008.
It's been one year since Nikon last announced a totally new DSLR (D5000) so a new model is due very soon. If money isn't an issue then I'd wait to see what the next announcement brings.
Thanks for the welcome NikoDoby.
I shall wait for some time for any update. If the next update is highly priced then I shall purchase D90 immediately either way.
Any specific reason why to wait for the update?
D90 is a wonderful camera. The current prices are really good. the d90 replacement will probably cost 400 to 500 more when it does come out. For that amount you can get a great second lens or flash, So you need to consider that as well. The D90 is a great camera to transition from P&S to SLR.
Dont know if you should wait.. If I didn't have a DSLR I would get it. But If you can wait and are willing to pay the price for the newer model then I would wait.
Hi swame_sp. You can search the prior posts on this forum for some guesses as to what the replacement for the D90 will have that the D90 does not currently possess. No-one really knows quite yet. Unless you feel you need a DSLR now (going on a once in a lifetime trip??), I'd wait to see what comes down the pike.
Hearty - why do you think there will be such a price jump on the D90 replacement? If it is a replacement, it may have an initial price bump of 15 - 20%, but you talking over 50%. I just don't see it. Nikon needs a DSLR in the sub $1000 range. D90 is now about $850. I would be surprised if the replacement went over $1000 street price.
warprints said:
Hearty - why do you think there will be such a price jump on the D90 replacement? If it is a replacement, it may have an initial price bump of 15 - 20%, but you talking over 50%. I just don't see it. Nikon needs a DSLR in the sub $1000 range. D90 is now about $850. I would be surprised if the replacement went over $1000 street price.
What about the D5000 for sub $1000? It's already like a mini-D90
But the replacement should be around 1k
Yeah it really depends on the specs. The next model probably wont be a D90S or D90X. That means that if it's a D7000 then it might be priced at $1199USD body only. Depending on the specs.
In other words it'll be geared towards the advanced amateur or semi-pro users. Think of it as a "plastic" D300. However the D70,80, and 90 have all been at about $1000USD body only. So if Nikon announces a D95 then the price will probably come in at $1000. Either way the new model will be more expensive.
IDunno - the D5000, in my book, is not really a serious camera for someone wanting to move into the full realm of DSLR photography. I don't mean to diss the camera, it's actually a great little camera, but its build quality, feel, etc., are not on the level of a D90 or D300.
Nikon does have a problem in that the D5000 is so good, and so close in price to the D90, that the two camera's are somewhat competing against each other. I think most in this forum would clearly suggest anyone pay the $100-150 extra for the D90. A replacement for the D90 will have the same problem. I tend to agree with Niko that the new camera will not truly be a replacement (I know that's not quite what Niko said), but will be clearly slotted above the D5000 as a D7000 or such.
I stick by my guess that the new camera, after intitial price gouging, will retail on the street real close to $1000.
I think with the lens packages and rebates you can get at the moment the D90 is about $700. I was also guessing that the D5000 has taken the D90's place so the next D90 replacement will need to be relatively higher spec then the current D90 otherwise there will be no space for the next D5000 update... that would also mean that there is space to 2 D300s level cameras(maybe one will be FX). This is all my gut feel. so it may be totally wrong.
NikoDoby said:
Welcome to the forum swame_sp.There were rumors of an April announcement but it looks like that's just going to be another pro lens. Next possibility would be June. Though at this point the D90 replacement could come anytime from June-October 2010. The D90 was originally announced in August of 2008.
It's been one year since Nikon last announced a totally new DSLR (D5000) so a new model is due very soon. If money isn't an issue then I'd wait to see what the next announcement brings.
why in the world did I think that the d90 was CURRENTLY over 2 years old? It's only a year and 8 months old...usually doesn't it take atleast 2 years before a replacement (roughly?). This is a very dissapointing realization for me, haha.
Although I can not remember where I read it, I seem to remember that rumors around the D90 replacement speculate that to conserve weight, it will not have the focus motor in the body. This eliminates the ability to autofocus Af-D lenses.
One of the reasons I bought the D90 was from reading this as I wanted to go the with option of buying Af-D lenses to save money, like I did recently with the 50mm 1.4 Af-D.
That rumor already got busted. A top Nikon engineer said in an interview that the D90 replacement would be geared to advanced amateurs and semi-pros. That means it will have an internal focus motor.
Cool... Loads of info here.
I'm thinking to wait for some more time to see what comes around the corner. Either way I wont lose anything as there is nothing compelling (like trip or hiking or what ever) me to buy a DSLR now. If the update is too costly for me then I will immediately order D90. Thanks everybody... But keep sharing your thoughts.
I'm pretty sure it is 2 years old, foofie, but I also don't think the D90 replacement is coming anytime soon. [edit: You're right, foofie. It came out in August 2008. Sorry I doubted you.] Check out this timeline:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Nikon_DSLR_cameras
Nikon is not going to release something cheaper than a D300s with a sensor that will out-resolve and out-perform the D300s's sensor until a D300s replacement comes out (and don't tell me the D90 is already better just because DxOmark says it is ;-). I don't see that happening until the end of this year at the earliest, and I still rather like my idea that Nikon might roll the D90 and D300s replacement into a single camera because the product line seems a little crowded with the D5000, D90, and D300s all with similar imaging performance.
I suggest you get the D90, swame, and avoid missing the pictures from now until the D90 replacement comes out. If you're happy with your camera now, then you might want to wait.
Jonny has a good point about the D90 "replacement" not being a replacement at all, but a melding of D90 and D300.
warprints said:
I tend to agree with Niko that the new camera will not truly be a replacement (I know that's not quite what Niko said), but will be clearly slotted above the D5000 as a D7000 or such.
No that is exactly what I'm saying. Nikon can't replace the D90 with a D100. So the D7000 makes more sense. We know the D5000 has better specs than the D3000 so one can safely assume that a D7000 would be similar/better than a D90. The D5000 wasn't really a D60 replacement nor was the D3000 really a D40 replacement. Although you could argue that they were.
Lets just say that I have a filling that we will have D5000 replacement first and D90 will not be replaced before the end of this year.
Ahh. The plot thickens !!
Guess it just depends on your needs and wants. If you need something now then get the D90. If you don't mind waiting then wait. The D90 is very capable and even if the new one comes out the D90 will still takes great pictures and I don't think you would be disappointed.
mb said:
Lets just say that I have a filling that we will have D5000 replacement first and D90 will not be replaced before the end of this year.
why would they replace the d5000? It is literally (weird timing) 1 year old today, that's way too soon for a refresh.
edit: actually the camera itself isn't even a year old, it was announced one year ago, I don't know the start ship date.
Well the D700 will be replaced first. The proof is that supply is already drying up. I'd believe you mb but the only problem with your "plan" besides what foofie already pointed out (D5000 is not even a year old) is that the D5000 hasn't been heavily discounted. The D90, D700 and D300S have. The D5000 is Nikon's number 1 selling DSLR in some countries followed by the D3000. (In some places it's the other way around)
It would be a huge mistake for Nikon to keep the D90 around until Christmas! Despite that it's barely going to be 2 years old, it's already pretty outdated. Remember it was the world's first HD video DSLR. At the time nobody else had HD video in a DSLR. Now look at how many other cameras do it "bigger and better". Nikon can't afford to wait 6 to 8 months for a replacement.
NikoDoby said:
Well the D700 will be replaced first. The proof is that supply is already drying up. I'd believe you mb but the only problem with your "plan" besides what foofie already pointed out (D5000 is not even a year old) is that the D5000 hasn't been heavily discounted. The D90, D700 and D300S have. The D5000 is Nikon's number 1 selling DSLR in some countries followed by the D3000. (In some places it's the other way around)It would be a huge mistake for Nikon to keep the D90 around until Christmas! Despite that it's barely going to be 2 years old, it's already pretty outdated. Remember it was the world's first HD video DSLR. At the time nobody else had HD video in a DSLR. Now look at how many other cameras do it "bigger and better". Nikon can't afford to wait 6 to 8 months for a replacement.
yeah, this seems more realistic, but I just have to hold out hope that the d90 replacement will come first. I was really hoping for the replacement to be buyable before end of june as I have a few trips planned and would love to take my new baby with me.
Well if all of these "pro" lens rumors are true there might be a camera body announcement to go along with them too. In which case the D700 gets replaced soon and the D90 in early summer.
We will see.
warprints said:
IDunno - the D5000, in my book, is not really a serious camera for someone wanting to move into the full realm of DSLR photography. I don't mean to diss the camera, it's actually a great little camera, but its build quality, feel, etc., are not on the level of a D90 or D300.Nikon does have a problem in that the D5000 is so good, and so close in price to the D90, that the two camera's are somewhat competing against each other. I think most in this forum would clearly suggest anyone pay the $100-150 extra for the D90. A replacement for the D90 will have the same problem. I tend to agree with Niko that the new camera will not truly be a replacement (I know that's not quite what Niko said), but will be clearly slotted above the D5000 as a D7000 or such.
I stick by my guess that the new camera, after intitial price gouging, will retail on the street real close to $1000.
Im with warprints on this one...
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