I could not wait any longer...
just bought a new D700, I'll use it until the next one is out and any issues resolved.
Now to sell off a D2x.
where there’s smoke there’s forum fire
I could not wait any longer...
just bought a new D700, I'll use it until the next one is out and any issues resolved.
Now to sell off a D2x.
Congrats, Picturepro. Jealousy here.
studio460 said:
Yes, hugely skeptical, but exciting nonetheless! Can anyone comment on the specs on the sensor? Do they make sense? If true, I am so there! A 1080p24-enabled, "D800," releasing this year, would be a dream (finally) come true.
The sensor specs do make sense, studio. I'm not sure how they came up with 24.6 with the dimensions they quote (6048 x 4032 is actually 24.4MP). 24.4MP is the same as the D3x sensor. When the D700 replacement was rumored last year, an "s" update made more sense—tweaks to the sensor and add video like the D3->D3s upgrade. Now it seems like to compete directly with the Canon 5DII an "x" upgrade makes more sense. But since when has Nikon always taken care to compete directly with Canon?
Actually, received an email from the Admin (I'd submitted this through the rumors link), and he says it's a hoax. Sorry if I inadvertently got anyone's hopes up.
Over at my place, the D700 is dipping in prices. Looks like the replacement is closing in. As prices overnight had dipped quite a lot for a camera of its class.
If it gets replaced-expect to be safe and predictable, a d3s sensor no doubt...we might also get s d900 with the d3x sensor, and I'm positive they'll all come in north of $3k with crippled buffers, vf's, and other pertinent negatives...the d4 is where it'll be at!!
kljs said:
Over at my place, the D700 is dipping in prices. Looks like the replacement is closing in. As prices overnight had dipped quite a lot for a camera of its class.
Really? Where is "your place" abouts? Like from what, to what? New ones go for $2,500 USD. Refurbs go for $2,100 USD. If a D700 replacement were to be announced soon, I would be very surprised (happily!).
Wow! Just checked B+H. You're right! It went from a displayed price of $2,499.99 USD, to an "add to cart to see price" kinda deal, and is now priced at $2,398.99 USD. Things are looking up!
Yep, Calumet has it 2699.95 and when in cart 2399.99
I bought a D700 Saturday
Picturepro said:
Yep, Calumet has it 2699.95 and when in cart 2399.99I bought a D700 Saturday
Wow! Congrats! If I didn't also need the video feature, I would've bought the D700 refurb I saw last month. Hmmm . . . a $100 price-reduction . . . that's gotta mean something! Doesn't it?
?? 300 = 100 ?
Can I ask why people are worrying about a new D-700, D-90 etc??? The Nikon D3 and D3s are cheap enough to buy and are Awesome camera for any situations...Even if a new camera came out I would wait to see how it worked. Like the D2x I didn't like way to much noise across the board! Does anyone really knows what camera is coming and when. I Most like will stick with the pro bodies D3 and D3s... A D-700 price isn't far off from the D3 so why not pay a little more for a better camera? If I'm wrong please explain.....
flexphotos said:
Can I ask why people are worrying about a new D-700, D-90 etc??? The Nikon D3 and D3s are cheap enough to buy and are awesome camera for any situation . . . a D700 price isn't far off from the D3 so why not pay a little more for a better camera? If I'm wrong please explain . . .
A Nikon D700 is currently priced at about $2,400 USD; the Nikon D3s sells for $5,200 USD. That's a $2,800 price difference, an amount which many would consider, significant. Most would also prefer to buy expensive technology-based products, early in their product life-cycle, to maximize their benefit from recent technological advancements and improvements. The D700 has just passed its two-year life-cycle, and many believe, it's due for renewal.
As both a filmmaker and photographer, personally, the reason I'm waiting is that I don't want to buy an expensive Nikon FX body until they incorporate 1080p24 video capability with full-manual control. Especially since the next iteration of the D700 and D3s is likely to incorporate this capability. Photokina is only a few weeks away, and in my opinion, worth waiting to see if any of Nikon's new product offerings address these features.
flexphotos said:
Can I ask why people are worrying about a new D-700, D-90 etc??? The Nikon D3 and D3s are cheap enough to buy and are Awesome camera for any situations...
"Cheap enough"? Really? You buyin'? In that case, I'll take two, 'cause I'm told it's a good idea to have a second body. :P
Not sure what kinda cash you're sitting on, but for a lot of us, $2,400 isn't something you just find under the couch cushions. If you're upgrading to FX from DX, you also have to take into consideration the cost of upgrading lenses. Sure, selling your old gear can defray that, but what if you want to keep your 90 or 300 either as a backup or because the added range is good for what you're shooting?
Just as much to the point -- and at the risk of sounding like a broken record -- for some people, a D3 is a lovely piece of kit, but it's just a bit too much camera for their needs. Would I LIKE a D3? Of course. Don't be silly. But I know the camera fairy isn't going to leave one under my pillow just 'cause I'm a nice guy. And besides, I'm not shooting giraffes by starlight. :)
studio460 said:
Wow! Congrats! If I didn't also need the video feature, I would've bought the D700 refurb I saw last month. Hmmm . . . a $100 price-reduction . . . that's gotta mean something! Doesn't it?
Studio - you're being sarcastic right?
The D700 has dropped that low many times over the past 2 years. . .many times. . .
like last xmas. . .
I don't think it means anything. . .and I agree with the above poster, I was willing to drop that much on a body ($2k), but not on an older body with little incentive to be discounted. . .which drove me to the D3 used, and I've been pretty stoked since. . .
Also gives me leverage to justify the D700s as a backup when it comes out this fall (if it does). . .
$2400 isn't much if you break even in one shoot, just a btw. . .
shivaswrath said:
Studio - you're being sarcastic right?The D700 has dropped that low many times over the past 2 years . . . many times . . .
like last xmas . . .
I don't think it means anything. . .and I agree with the above poster, I was willing to drop that much on a body ($2k), but not on an older body with little incentive to be discounted . . . which drove me to the D3 used, and I've been pretty stoked since . . .
Not at all. I haven't been shopping for bodies in two years, so I'm completely ignorant of Nikon's pricing cycles. If I didn't also want to make movies, I would jump on a used D3s. I still may. I just want to see what Photokina brings, first. Unfortunately, I'm guessing it's highly unlikely that the D3s will be "upgraded" any time before 2011. If a D700 revision comes this September (which I also think is unlikely), I'd probably end up buying that instead.
shivaswrath said:
$2400 isn't much if you break even in one shoot, just a btw. . .
Ah, yes . . . but I don't shoot stills professionally. This is all "spent" money with zero ROI (unless I sell some stuff at a gallery later on).
The wait for the upgraded D700 version has been frustrating - hopefully, it is released well before the end of this year, especially now that the 28-300 lens has been announced. D700 is 2 years old, and although 2008 had alot to do with slowing things down, an upgrade is over due.
No new "D700" for 2010:
" . . . 16MP Nikon D90 replacement before Photokina, no other DSLR." --NR reporting on Nikon Denmark press conference transcript.
I just knew it.
Others posting to the press conference blog imply that the flagship FX models tend to be introduced first, then the lower-tier models (i.e., "D4" before a "D800").
I'm not surprised. I never believed in the, "low end cameras can't out spec the higher end cameras" debate. Nikon's just trying to "protect" sales of DX cameras because if they release all of the FX bodies first then people wouldn't want a "D95" for example. Especially if they announce an $1899USD FX "D500" :^)
I'd brought up something similar over on the blog as to why I don't think a 700 refresh/replacement is due any time soon. I get the feeling that the reason they're keeping the 90 replacement relatively airtight is that they're trying to give newer models (the 3100 and 300s) the time to gain traction. With the hopeful announcement of the 95 (or whatever it's called) at Photokina, they end up doing a few things:
*You preserve the decent sales of a model that’s not due for a refresh any time soon (the 5000).
*If the rumors of an EVIL camera in Q1 2011 is in any way accurate (I'm thinking that'd be announced at PMA next year), they also have to give that time to get its footing.
*Then, sometime between Q2 and Q3 2011, I can see them doing one or both of the following: a D500 (though I think your pricing might be a tad too optimistic) and a D700x.
Then again, I don't have or pretend any kind of insider knowledge. It just seems like it might be a logical way for things to play out. And what's a rumor mill -- erm, forum -- without some wild speculation? :)
Nikon's timing is excellent (for extracting the maximum revenue stream from me!). I will now be buying three bodies:
1. D3100 now, for 1080p24 filmmaking applications.
2. D700 now, for FX-sized still images.
3. D4 whenever it arrives (for D3s-like sensitivity for stills, and as my primary, FX-sized, 1080p24 filmmaking camera).
Later, the D3100 can be relegated to "crash cam" and B-roll video applications (i.e., vehicle mounts, etc.).
Studio why are you going to buy a D3100? Just buy the new D90 it'll have video too. Or are you going to buy the D3100 and a few weeks later "upgrade" to the new D90?
Aslightdelay that price (body only) is reasonable. Sony already has an FX camera at that price so why not Nikon? There will be a lot of new FX sensors coming. How does a 32mp D700/D3S replacement sound? :^)
Sure, Sony makes a FX at that price, but what I've seen of its images, I'm not impressed. Short answer: Because you get what you pay for.
A 32MP D3/700 replacement sounds nice, but a bit rich for my taste. :)
Remember though that 2mp cameras were once over $2000. Megapixel count keeps going up while prices keep falling or staying the same. The D70 was 6mp but the D90 sold for the same price at introduction and had twice the megapixels. Also the "same" 24mp Sony sensor from the A900 is used in the Nikon D3X. Nikon worked magic to get better ISO performance out of the "same" sensor as Sony's. The D3100 also uses the "same" sensor as the Sony NEX cameras.
Niko, you are in an incredibly good mood today. I think you have some info that you're not sharing. Feel free to email me and brighten my day.
ASD, I think the D3100 will kill D5000 sales. Not that that's a bad thing.
I'm in a great mood Jonny because my teleportation device had it's first successful Baboon teleport today. I think I'll try teleporting myself tonight after I finish getting drunk and put my name in the history books! What could possible go wrong?
Is that a beer reference?
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