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NikoDoby

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According to an interview of Nobuaki Sasagaki, General Manager of the Marketing Department of Nikon's Imaging Division, by Dpreview. The entire dpreview quote says, "He also told us that Nikon is set to expand its DSLR range in the near future, but would not be drawn on details, hinting only that the company has 'good news' on the way for its enthusiast DSLR customers."

An affordable full frame?!

An EVIL COOLPIX? but that wouldn't make enthusiast DSLR users happy would it?

Or just 1080 HD video in D90 replacement?

Or an 18 megapixel high ISO D90 replacement?

So what would make you "enthusiast DSLR users" happiest?

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Olympus is saying that they would be going to mirrorless within the next year.

http://photorumors.com/2010/02/21/olympus-e-system-to-go-100-mirrorless-in-two-years/

Or maybe not.

http://photorumors.com/2010/02/23/olympus-confusion-we-still-plan-to-develop-full-size-dslrs/

If they go mirrorless, do they need to change the mount in any way?

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NikoDoby

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Nikon is not going to remove the mirror in it's DSLRs anytime soon. They probably will eventually but I doubt they will do it this year. In the same interview Mr. Sasagaki seems to hint that if Nikon does make an EVIL camera then it will live side-by-side with entry level DSLRs and not replace them.

To me that means an EVIL Nikon will either be a small sensored high end COOLPIX model or something that is feature limited so that it won't compete with APS-C DSLRs :^(

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I was playing with an EVIL thing lately and frankly I don’t see much use of it really.
It is not much smaller with any lens except pancake prime than D3000 for example and D3000 is much more comfortable to use, gives better images and is half the price.
I would much rather have cheaper compact DX camera with fixed 3x retractable zoom (16-50 f/2.8 would be fine) with coupled optical viewfinder so that I could carry it with me in a pocket at all times.

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mb said:
I would much rather have cheaper compact DX camera with fixed 3x retractable zoom (16-50 f/2.8 would be fine) with coupled optical viewfinder so that I could carry it with me in a pocket at all times.

Isn't that pretty much what an EVIL camera is, mb? Is it the price that you don't agree with, then? I admit I don't think I'd buy one at the prices of the current crop, but maybe when all the big companies get involved prices will go down.

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I think this will be a good year for people who want to step up from older entry level cameras (D40(x)/D60) to the mid-range DSLR cameras (D5000/D90 level).

As for Nikon EVIL, as I've said before, unless the price of such a camera is in the same range as the D3000, I'm not interested in the slightest.

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NikoDoby

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So don't buy one when it comes out but an EVIL Nikon camera is coming.

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jonnyapple said:
Isn't that pretty much what an EVIL camera is, mb? Is it the price that you don't agree with, then? I admit I don't think I'd buy one at the prices of the current crop, but maybe when all the big companies get involved prices will go down.

No it isn't, Interchangeable Lenses is the key difference here not to mention Electronic Viewfinder, that makes an EVIL camera and all of it is adding to the price and size and I don’t currently see any real advantage just drawbacks.

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I agree with mb, for the most part. The reality is you can get a small DSLR for less, and have more lens options.

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I don't want to buy a large collection of EVIL lenses. I'd only be interested in one or two. Something like a prime for low light f1.4 or f2, and a smallish zoom.

I rather the "Good News" be an affordable full frame since that would be more surprising to me at this point than an EVIL camera.

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and I would certainly get one, if I could put any of my F-mount lenses on it. it would be a small/portable solution for the times I'm tired of carrying my "big" setup

as for 18Mpx, I also read it the same way You do Niko, I guess that the next step for nikon will be to release 14mpx in DX and 18Mpx in FX, if that's the true, I guess I'll wait little bit longer and try to get d3s from second hand

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NikoDoby said:
I don't want to buy a large collection of EVIL lenses. I'd only be interested in one or two. Something like a prime for low light f1.4 or f2, and a smallish zoom.

I rather the "Good News" be an affordable full frame since that would be more surprising to me at this point than an EVIL camera.

So why are you interested in EVIL cameras if the M4/3 format requires you to buy new lenses for it, if you're not using an adaptor? The small zooms protrude quite a bit in my opinion, and it's not as pocketable as it could be.

Honestly, if the Ricoh GXR wasn't so crazy expensive, I'd be all over it.

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NikoDoby

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Any EVIL camera is going to require a new set of lenses regardless. Smaller optics for a much smaller package. That's why Olympus created an even smaller micro 4/3rds lens line when they already had the "regular" 4/3rds.

My reasoning for thinking Nikon should join the m4/3rd party is that they already have a "large" selection of lenses to choose from. Not so that we Nikon users can buy Olympus lenses but so Olympus lens owners can buy a Nikon camera. Also there are plenty of m4/3rd adapters out there for Leica and Nikon lenses. So if Nikon puts an EVIL m4/3rd camera on sale tomorrow I can use it with a vast array of lens immediately instead of waiting for lenses or adapters for a totally new mount to become available after launch.

However will Nikon join m4/3rds? Fat chance says no.

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I see your point. But yeah, I don't think Nikon will go M4/3, but if they do they may go proprietary like Sony seems to want to go.

See, the one thing I like about the Ricoh is that the sensor is with the module so it's always protected from dust. More importantly, if you ever upgrade sensors, your body in theory should never be out of date. Only your modules will be. Issue is, your body will always be cheaper than the module since you always swap sensors. It's a good idea, just still really expensive.

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NikoDoby

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VCRs were crazy expensive too when they first hit the market :^)

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And so was Betamax and Laserdisc, but you really don't see them around do you?

My dad has a large stack of Laserdiscs. :D

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I aslo doubt Nikon will hit the m4/3, and I also realize that there must be some new mount, but this doesn't mean that we are not going to see F to E (evil) converter, as is with 4/3 to M4/3

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NikoDoby said:

Or an 18 megapixel high ISO D90 replacement?

So what would make you "enthusiast DSLR users" happiest?

I don't want video, and can't comment on EVIL, don't know about it.

I doubt that you can get both high ISO and 18 MP in a D900 replacement. What sensor would it be? I have been looking at the DXOMark data, and it appears to me that the D90 is already a very well designed camera. Essentially identical in noise performance to the D3x, better than the D300s. It is only beaten in noise/ISO performance by the D700 and the D3s. The larger sensor area of those two suggest it will take a large chip improvement to overcome the sensor area difference.

I understand that Nikon needs to up the pixel count to compete with Canon, but what enthusiast lens will you use that can benefit from more sensor resolution and not be lens limited with an APS sensor?

What I would really like is a good pivoting display, and ability to 'read' the index rings on my old AI lenses. But I tried the D5000 in the store, and did not like the bottom hinge design for the display. I would love an ISO boost.

I have about talked myself into buying a D90 with the two kit lenses, and the price is dropping. I see the 2 lens kit now for $1550. I may need intervention before I succumb to NAS.

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jonnyapple

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I think you've come to the wrong place for intervention, Sandpiper. ;-)
What about just the 18-105 kit lens? It's a great lens. Amazon has that kit for $1035. Costco has the D90, 18-105 VR, and 70-300 VR for $1640, which beats the 18-55 VR and 55-200 VR kit.

BTW, I think you're right about the reasons for going to higher MP for people who use consumer lenses—it's to compete with canon on the specs war. I think the D90 outresolves a lot of those lenses already (I don't have data on that, it's just my feeling).

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I read a Magazine review comparing the D300s/16-85 VR and the Canon 7D/18-135 IS. The Canon did get the overall win with better Video etc but had problems with resolution due the lack of lens quality. The fact is Canon might be pumping out higher MP cameras, but they do not have lenses to support them, period

BTW the 16-85 VR was rated well in this review

Pete

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NikoDoby

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Here we go yet again! (What is this like the third of fourth time?)
Nikon are scheduling a press event on March 8th. Fingers crossed everyone.

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jonnyapple

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Oh, sweet music. I hope it's not to discuss the newest coolpix offerings. ;-)

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NikoDoby

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No I think this is different. I'd heard about a March announcement a long time ago but I was told it would be later in the month. We'll see what happens. I'm thinking whatever gets announced might just be a new/additional model and not necessarily a replacement.

Unless they just announce their future plans for an EVIL camera like Sony did. But the event is schedule to last about two hours so that seems to mean they have something to show and pass around!

OR they are just making the same announcement twice at different times :^(

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jonnyapple

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Or they're making both announcements.

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NikoDoby

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Looks like this March 8th announcement might be the real deal this time. Looks like the witching sticks are pointing to a new EVIL camera and not a DSLR. Unless March 8th ties into D800 some how?

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