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For those unhappy with the f/4 in nikkor 16-35 f/4

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  • Started 3 years ago by jbl
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  1. jbl

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    The possible new Tokina SD 16-28 F2.8 (IF) FX looks like the solution.
    http://www.dpreview.com/news/1002/10022211tokina16282pt8.asp

    No IS, but you got f/2.8

    Seeing how good the tokina 11-16 for DX is, this 16-28 for FX might be a very interesting choice.

    For me it could be a replacement/compromise of that 14-24 I'm lusting for.. because of its probably lower price, smaller size, lighter weight, and precious 28mm reach... However I'd lose the 14mm wide and this lens can't be as good as the 14-24 anyway...

    Still, this is the kind of lens that I'm after, the more options there are, the happier I get.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  2. mb

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    I hope Tokina will make more lenses with built in motors or most current and all future cameras will not be able to AF.

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  3. PB PM

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    Tokina is in the process of making models with built in motors, the 12-24mm Pro DX was updated last year, although I've not seen the new version available anywhere in Canada, which is too bad. I would have loved to have had one with the built in motor.

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  4. mb

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    My point exactly, too bad because Tokina is a very nice glass.

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  5. shivaswrath

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    when they make good glass, they make it AWESOME. . . .I've been a shameless proponent of the 11-16 2.8 on these boards, and even though it took me three attempts at getting a good copy due to some issues with their AF (undisclosed factory spec issues on their part), it was worth the wait. . . .

    I think this is smart, and great for FX - exciting news! Means the NAS will have to wait. . .and now maybe the body gets the bump. . .

    Posted 3 years ago #
  6. NikoDoby

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    Tokina was founded by "rogue" Nikon engineers. True story!

    It also appears that this f2.8 lens is actually smaller than the supposed smaller, lighter, cheaper f4 Nikkor

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  7. bmxdad

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    If the lens is anything like the 11-16 F2.8 DX lens then we might have a winner here

    Pete

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  8. jbl

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    The only two things that i'm scared of with this new FX lens is that the AF might be slow compared to the nikkor AF-S and if it is.. the price might be quite high.. if it's over 1500, the 14-24 will still be more interesting to me...

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  9. PB PM

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    Why do you need fast AF on a wide angel lens?

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  10. jonnyapple

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    I ask myself the same question, PB PM. But I also ask myself about fast apertures with a wide angle lens. f/4 seems plenty fast to me for wide angle stuff, but I guess if you can get faster without paying a premium I'd never complain about having it. Anyone feel like enlightening me about why you want 2.8 (or even 1.4 in wide primes)? Is it just for subject isolation and if it is are you going for a slightly distorted view of the subject by being close?

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  11. PB PM

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    I can see an F2.8 wide angel lens being good for closeups indoors, and subject isolation. I found F4 to give me enough isolation at close range in many situations, but I wouldn't mind having a wider aperture if the lens sold for less than $800.

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  12. jbl

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    PB PM said:
    I can see an F2.8 wide angel lens being good for closeups indoors, and subject isolation.

    That explains the wide aperture need.

    Just a note about this. I found that if you are far from your subject with a wide angle, it's better to shoot with a small aperture to have everything in focus because having only part of your image in focus and rest just slightly out of focus (because your DOF isn't short enough) gives a less interesting image than if everything was in focus... However, most of time when I shoot wide I want to be close to my subject and what to isolate it.. that's why I like the 11-16 f/2.8 but I want more. I wish I had a 24mm f/1.4 or 28 f/1.4 on full frame because what you can do with these is simply awesome.. I love my 20mm f/1.8.

    http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2469/3812805733_b65fabe542_o.jpg

    I couldn't make this with a small aperture and shooting this with a telephoto would kill all the sillyness.. off topic but, do you think I needed just a bit more DOF in that pic? I'm a bit unsatisfied.. maybe just a tiny more DOF for the lips and nose) I kinda like that weird bokey from the 20 f/1.8

    Back on topic. For someone who shoots landscape in daylight, a wide aperture is useless... but I never ever shot a single landscape photo... I use my wide lenses indoors or outside at night so right off the bat the wide aperture helps with the light because I don't carry a tripod around. I'm also a maniac of short DOF combined with wide angles... my dream lens would be a 12-28 f/1.4 AF-S for FX I know I'm not realistic here but just saying.

    Posted 3 years ago #

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