Yeah I understand.
Just out of interest: What's that damage?
where there’s smoke there’s forum fire
Yeah I understand.
Just out of interest: What's that damage?
chris_weinert said:
Just out of interest: What's the damage?
Mostly bad or misleading information. KR has some strong opinions, what people perceive as "telling it as it is" - but what if that information is plain wrong? Like his insistence that "real men shoot jpeg" and how RAW is a lie. Although I'm a raw shooter, I think jpeg is a valid choice with significant advantages (storage needs, processing power, compatibility) over raw. I chose to shoot raw because to me, the advantages outweigh the disadvantages. The problem here is attitude and arrogance to the point of being irrational. RAW is not simply a matter of choice for him, a choice you make after weighing advantages and disadvantages. No, raw is evil, raw is a lie.
He's a highly controversial figure, probably because he writes as if he spoke the Truth of God, and for some reason people fall for it. Some forums (like photo.net) banned links to his site because people posted with the same zeal and attitude resulting in flame wars.
And when it comes to his settings - he oversaturates his photos so much that he routinely blows out channels (mostly red) so with flowers, for example, you lose texture details. Then there are his reviews, especially lenses, which are highly suspect (ie I'm convinced that at times he didn't actually use the tools he reviews). Worse still, he promotes his settings for download... complete with copyright KR exif info that will be attached to YOUR images. Of course, it's not his fault if someone doesn't change this, but given the target audience (probably only beginners would download his file as is and apply it without understanding the reasons for those settings) there will be a lot of people unaware of this...
He has some OK articles, but then you look at his photos and wonder... When it comes to individuals who identify themselves as photographers writing about gear, I always take the quality of their photos into account. My personal favourite is the mansurovs at photographylife.com - their review photos are stunning. It also shows that they used best practices and at least tried the stuff they review in the field instead of just shooting plants in your backyard. KR's photos (if he has any) in his reviews... well, see them for yourself. For reivew sites like dpreview I don't mind bad photos though...
Overall, my main problems are
1) unreliability - lots of misleading information on his site, regarding both gear and techniques
2) his arrogant attitude that seem to be contagious among his fans, who than pop-up on various sites spreading his dumb and oversimplified views, such as "the only lens you'll ever need is the 18-200" and other nonsense.
Everything he says should be taken with a huge grain of salt. And there are far better alternatives on the net if you need good information on your gear or photography in general.
Oh, I like KR and check his site often as an easy way to get some factual info about a lens or body. You have to realize that he writes part fact, part deliberate tongue-in-cheek fiction, part entertainment, and part over-the-top opinion. Think of it this way, his opinions are as over-saturated as his colors: some of the most ugly red skin tones I have seen: especially his own skin. Humble or talented, he is not.
donaldejose said:
Oh, I like KR and check his site often as an easy way to get some factual info about a lens or body. You have to realize that he writes part fact, part deliberate tongue-in-cheek fiction, part entertainment, and part over-the-top opinion. Think of it this way, his opinions are as over-saturated as his colors: some of the most ugly red skin tones I have seen: especially his own skin. Humble or talented, he is not.
I guess you're right if you look at it that way... Problem is, lots of people don't, and take him far too seriously.
donaldejose said:
Oh, I like KR and check his site often as an easy way to get some factual info about a lens or body. You have to realize that he writes part fact, part deliberate tongue-in-cheek fiction, part entertainment, and part over-the-top opinion. Think of it this way, his opinions are as over-saturated as his colors: some of the most ugly red skin tones I have seen: especially his own skin. Humble or talented, he is not.
Very well summarized.
molnarcs said:
Mostly bad or misleading information. KR has some strong opinions, what people perceive as "telling it as it is" - but what if that information is plain wrong?
I guess the whole problem boils down to that one sentence. To be honest, I think this is not a problem of KR, this is a problem of the people. Maybe that's why there's so much controversy about him, because people simply can't filter something they read and distinguish between opinion and fact-type information. I don't get it.
I wasn't a beginner when I started reading KR, but I was new to the D in DSLR, and looking back, it's really a different kind of shooting, so I could say I was a beginner in digital photography. Not once did I believe anything of all the things you mention in your examples. I've always considered all that exactly what I said before, self-righteous statements, photos without taste.
Apparently, people just need to learn to use their brains again. I don't want to get political, but that's also the ground on which something like Fox News is considered a news channel by so many.
Totally agree with your view about photographylife.com, molnarcs and golf!
Chris you made an important point: we consume media be it TV news or internet sites. We have to realize some of the "media" deliberately includes a strong entertainment component to boost ratings or traffic so they can charge advertisers more money and make more money for themselves. This is true of news channels and of websites. Sometimes the news channel will deliberately tilt conservative or liberal in order to draw in that group of people to boost ratings. We have to learn to discern these efforts to boost ratings or traffic to a website and learn to disregard them or spend our time elsewhere. We have to be educated and careful, not gullible, consumers.
Had my 800 since it came out, and no issues until Saturday night
when the first set of shots shots, at a dance event, seemed to have a green tint
I assumed it might have been the reception room which was very pale green
and when I moved to the ballroom the green tint vanished
later in the evening I checked the first set again and found they had lost the tint. when I downloaded them, there was no sign of any tint
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