Wow, it ranks only slightly better than the D60!
http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/eng/DxOMark-Sensor/Camera-rankings
Here's how it did against the Panasonic GH1
Ouch!
where there’s smoke there’s forum fire
Wow, it ranks only slightly better than the D60!
http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/eng/DxOMark-Sensor/Camera-rankings
Here's how it did against the Panasonic GH1
Ouch!
Great site! I've never seen it before, thanks for posting.
Yes I was also surprised considering the 7D is a $2000 camera. I think Nikon produces better cameras because they focus on everything but MP it seems right now. Although the new D300s also disapoints on DXO I thought. I'm interested to see how the D3s and M9 would rank. I'd imagine the D3s would slide into the #1 spot. The thing with DXO is if the camera has poor light ability it really drops in rank. Color rendition and accuracy are pretty much equal between a lot of cameras. Look at the M8, decent scores then gets killed in low light so it drops to #58 or so.
DXO software is great to. Anyone on here use it?
This confirms my opinion that Canon tries to impress with numbers (18MP). Nikon, at least their DSLRs, puts image quality first.
Yes, the Nikon DSLRs do better in low light, but there are situations when you want more MP, although I can only think of a few.
I really do hope that you are taking the DXO comparisons with a pinch of Cayenne pepper. They've been known to contain some pretty wild results that contradict the visual outcome (i.e. images).
I have used the new 7D and in GOOD light, I think it's superior to the D300 and D90, but once you start pushing the low-light issue, the lower MP Nikon's do much better.
For some the 7D is better because they won't push the light envelope. I'm 100% Nikon, but don't underestimate the Canons. They are fine cameras.
Cheers
Canon fanboys are going to go wild!
woah. . .not totally unexpected, until a camera manufacturer can start using different materials to help mitigate noise, adding MORE MP's to a CCD/CMOS sensor will get you a 7D. . .or something equivalent. . .
Film is natively at about 25 mpx.
Honestly, with 10mp, I've NEVER had issues blowing things up to sizes I can AFFORD to print at. . .and clients RARELY even want things printed outside of a album (max 8X10), so not sure why Canon is wrapped up in this, but I'm sure the smart consumer will realize the limitations. . .
haha, so I did a comparo with my D200. . .has the same SNR, lol!
That's no good - a brand new "gen 3" camera as pooey in noise control, color, DR as a 2005 Nikon. . .if that's the rate Canon's going, then. . .
PB PM said:
Yes, the Nikon DSLRs do better in low light, but there are situations when you want more MP, although I can only think of a few.
This is true and I think Nikon tries to maintain a balance. I for one am all for improved low light, there are situations when I'm under the canopy of trees on cloudy days when high ISO's are a must. However as you also said, the higher MP's are also good for us bird shooters as usually we need to crop. It will be interesting to see what the replacement of the D300/D300s offers in terms of this compromise.
Yeah that is really cool.
But if you look at it Canon 1Ds Mk III and 5D Mk II have almost the same mark (Resolution is NOT factored into the DxOMark Sensor) as D3 or D700. But they are 21 Mpix cameras compared to 12 Mpix. Sony Alpha 850 and 900 too, and at 24 Mpix.
To be honest 7D is just a bit lower (64.9 to 69.8) at 18 compared to 12 Mpix D300s. And it amazes me how D5000 and D90 are better then D300 when D300 gives better images at least in my view.
I doubt this will have any implication on the fact then Canon DSLR sales are stable while Nikon DSLR sales are going down. And I really hope Nikon will surprise us as Hiroshi Takashima General Manger of Imaging Division at Nikon claims, but not with a new Coolpix S220 he regards so high (crappiest P&S of all times, most current mobile phones are making better images than this failure) but with something with better quality and better line-up of cameras.
Gentoo said:
This is true and I think Nikon tries to maintain a balance. I for one am all for improved low light, there are situations when I'm under the canopy of trees on cloudy days when high ISO's are a must. However as you also said, the higher MP's are also good for us bird shooters as usually we need to crop. It will be interesting to see what the replacement of the D300/D300s offers in terms of this compromise.
Yup, I think the next generation Nikon DX bodies will host 14-18MP sensors, and that the noise control will be similar or better than it is now. That would be a nice bump, and like you, when I'm shooting birds, the lens is never long enough, cropping is often required.
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